Would it be creepy to approach a hot stranger in the street?

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What women really mean is that they don't want ugly or out of shape guys approaching them and that's acceptable, maybe the women would have responded differently if i hadn't presented myself well. Presentation is everything, my uncle can woo a random woman off the street in ten seconds but he has the charm gift, the ability to talk to anyone anywhere like the world is a social playground with no barriers, that's why it is good to socialize everywhere.

In queues, shops, train stations, clubs, pubs, parks, you get a feel for it.

No, most women don't want to be harassed by men, period. It has nothing to do with whether or not you're in good shape. It has everything to do with being able to go about your day without someone stepping in front of you and figuratively waving his dick in your face, and being large enough -- and often aggressive enough -- that he'll react very badly indeed if you tell him what you think of him, or simply refuse or ignore him. We do not want strangers shouting at us or bothering us as we go about our days.

Now. Before you get into a lather and start barking at me about how wrong and insane I am, go and actually read the many, many, many women who are saying these very things. Literally thousands of women have shown up to do you the favor of un-deluding you about how wonderful it is to be harassed by you.

At:

#yesallwomen
#grabbed
#streetharassment

And read the study on www.stopstreetharassment.org. For a start.

Sorry to say this, many beautiful women like nutrition, healthy and aware living, recycling, fitness or yoga, just because you are uninterested in it, that doesn't mean other women are. You and your interests not represent all women

Society deems what is right or wrong based on order and structure, based on what they want to see, positives and negatives, perception based in black and white thinking based on stereotypical generalizations will only lead to a narrow path that doesn't allow you to connect with others.

Why do you live with all these politically correct social rules? Again why have women been reciprocating even leading to physical intimacy and dating? By using labels like normal and creep, you are restricting yourself, you sound like a newspaper or tabloid journalist, look at yourself. You assume before you know, you presume..you presume that all women are like you but they are not.

Whatever happened to romance? Oh wait, some of us are experiencing it fine without your politically correct feminism. Approaching women can be done anywhere and it can lead to a lot more than a conversation, don't listen to the feminists.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthrea ... 261&page=1

There are even threads where men document these approaches, its perfectly acceptable in many modern countries like UK and US...im shocked at the way some of you think, no wonder you have trouble meeting people.

I'm glad that when women i didn't fancy asked me on a date, I'm glad i was polite and genuine to them, i didn't call them creeps or see them as lesser people, I'm glad i did that because i see now it makes people like you look bad as a human.

That's on the BodyBuilding forums, don't forget. That site is notorious for being filled with trolls. As well, from what I've observed, a lot of posters there are rather chauvinistic.

Well to be honest, my best dates and friendships with women happened through cold approaches from my part; but I guess I have good common sense and awareness.

One of them was in a hiking trip, my friend didn't come so I ended up sitting alone in the bus, she was sitting alone too in front of me, so I asked her if she open the curtain and a chit chat followed, then I asked her if I can sit near her because my jaw was glued to the window while responding to her and she accepted, this was like 2 years ago (she was initially romance interest) and now we still best friends (and been introduced to others) and ever since having outings every other weekend - tomorrow Friday gonna have dinner with them. Note that she asked me to escort her to home countless of times at night.

Another woman I kinda approached her coldly (maybe rather warmly) in the gym, and still friends with her and her group, she just happened to be in the next machine. What I don't do though is following someone from one machine to another and I don't attempt to talk with women with earphones. (yet one woman who's member there (saw her on okcupid) was sad because I never approached her yet she always wore big red earphones LOL).

Another woman in the gym (who later became friend to me too) I approached/reacted after getting asked for help - I hate it when women go "damsel in distress" in the gym and all guys around suddenly transform into expert coaches , so frequent and downright nauseating- so I was like sarcastically "sorry, I am no coach like all guys here" she laughed and I just pointed her the staff to ask for help. Then later on I did approach her again after that, and now we're still friends.

Honestly, my social life would have been zero (like it was the case for years) if I wasn't bit bold.

However, none of those would want to be approached in the street.

It is not a crime to make conversation with another person or human being. It is wrong to advance on someone that doesn't reciprocate.

That's the main issue I have regarding my height, it's not just only that they are less likely to be attracted to short/shorter guys, but they are often embarrassed to be seen with a shorter guy. I knew a lady who had no problem in private but acted embarrassed when being with me in public (avoids walking side by side, either walking slower, or ahead, avoiding slow dance...etc).

How does it make people "feel unsafe" by talking to them on the street or asking them on a date?

WTF.. It's going a bit over the top isn't it?

I'm not saying I don't think AlexanderDantes is coming off as a complete fool on here, I certainly think he's said a lot of things that are extremely idiotic, I won't go there.

Looks and surface personality are your calling cards, though. I admit, I'm uglier than sin and I'm married to a beautiful woman who thinks I'm beautiful. But I'm a very lucky guy and my wife, I believe, is an exceptional person.

Most women I've ever met tended to go more for a certain type of look, dress, and charismatic personality before settling for unattractive introverts. The good news for ugly folks like me is that once women actually get to know what some of these guys are really like away from the crowd, looks cease to be so important. In short, you can't polish a turd.

I should also point out everyone is guilty of this. And I don't mind admitting that if I had it all to do over again, yes, I would insist on dating women with a certain body type UNLESS I was already good friends with someone and knew better. Women with certain features do tend to be more confident and secure. Women who look a certain other way tend to bring a lot more emotional baggage into the relationship. It's not a foolproof way to judge anyone as datable or as relationship-material--there are plenty of exceptions. But often the way someone looks speaks volumes for how they're going to act in private.

Incidentally, I'm well aware looks aren't EVERYTHING. Back in my classroom days, I'd wear khakis and nice polo or button-up shirts. Occasionally I'd even wear a jacket and tie. I also showed up for work early every day and performed my teaching duties as meticulously as anyone could. And y'know what? I got fired anyway. So I wear my polo shirts untucked over blue jeans and either Nike tennis shoes or my Jack Purcell's. I shave once a week, usually on Thursday or Friday. And I don't go out of my way to impress anyone. Maybe it has cost me in some ways not dressing the part of a "young professional," but I'm much happier than I used to be. The best part is people judge me based on what I DO, not how I look doing it. I still have to follow a dress code one day a week, but big deal?

The ideal is for inner qualities to speak for themselves. The reality is that people, both men and women, are primarily sold on appearances. If you can get people to buy into YOU, you can eventually relax more superficial matters. It's just getting other people to that point that's always going to be tricky. Dressing attractively and learning to mimic certain expressive personalities seem to me the best ways to get the proverbial foot in the door and make it easier for people to want to get to know the real you.

Yeah, dressing nice has helped me feel confident and working out gave me good body image. I'm not greatly charismatic or anything, most find me strange to begin with, getting laid is better than nothing and my most recent sexual partner is very attractive, she asks me if i will ever marry or how we could spend our lives together but i like my space. I feel more like a machine, how does one become marriage material? I'm happy being a bachelor, expensive computers and gadgets make me happy...

When I am cat called it has always been from men in groups. I kinda think it has more to do with them showing off their prowess to each other rather than much of anything to do with me.

No, it's not automatically creepy.

But look at the reactions the females have provided in your thread.

Its probably better to stick to bars and clubs.

Asking people out / Complimenting them out of the blue is creepy. Just because someone is attractive enough to pull this off doesn't mean it's OK.

HOWEVER,

It's fine to approach complete strangers and engage them in conversation! And if you do well enough and see that the person is open to communication and/or interested in you, there is no harm in ending the conversation with a declaration of interest of sorts.

Humans are tricky animals like that. I know the physical signs of non-interest but there are very few signs of the contrary that I'm familiar with, so I can't help you much there.

Off the top of my head, if during the non-romantic part of the conversation she edges closer to you (even if she hears you fine) or plays with her hair while looking at you (the looking part is important as otherwise it might be a mechanism to cope with an uncomfortable situation), or bites her lower lip, then she's probably receptive to compliments.

But I can't stress enough how important it is to recognize when people wish to be left alone!