Can I really get a "hot" girl?

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Kezzstar said she wants "high quality" guys with six packs and hot bodies (yet she thinks she can't have one); no one told her this is objectifying; Eureka even encouraged her to puruse those hot models of men.

I am 100% sure if Kezzstar was male and complaining why can't have a hot woman with big boobs and curves, she would have been attacked with moral lessons and ripped into shreds and Tarantella, SA and Eureka would be in the frontline.


When an average girl says she wants a "hot guy"; she has standards.

When a average guy says he wants a "hot girl"; he gets stoned.

Is it really so bad that people want to have a partner that they find attractive and who finds them attractive?

There are so many things people could find attractive besides looks: humour, intelligence, kindness, honesty, and many other character traits.

And even if he just goes for the looks, it's no one's business really and morally stoning him is useless.

You're twisting my words, Boo (as well as Kezz's).

A dating service is matching her with men she considers to be "out of her league," and she has recently suffered rejection from a similar phenotype of man. She is unhappy that these are the only "matches" she is getting because she doesn't feel that she deserves someone who she perceives to be "better" than she is.

I merely pointed out that she should not assume that anyone is "out of her league." I would give the same advice to any man on here.

This. I don't feel like Kezz' case and this case are (presented) the same.

you'd think every once and a while they'd think up some original material, eh? i suppose that would require too much imagination.

Is that your personal fantasy?


It is nice of you to advance the notion that human beings are more than inanimate 'things'. But would it be too much to ask that you bear that in mind when you are referring to men also.


Who are you to dictate the terms on which anyone else should perceive their ideal of beauty?


You stuff words in a man's mouth and then lambast them for the prejudice you alone have propagated.

In precisely what way has K.Kelly promised 'misery and unhappiness' for the women in his life?
At what point did he say women were nothing more than objects?

It is important to find someone attractive if you want to have a good sexual relationship with them but there are other traits that contribute towards overall attractiveness of a person but physical attraction is very important. When I'm with my lover, it feels good that she draws a lot of attention from men and I also get attention so it makes me stay on my toes.

I have walked with female friends or had female friends in the past and other women assumed I was with them, other women judged me and them saying why would someone like me hang around or even be with someone like that? There were many shallow comments from people just because I made friends with people who were not beautiful on the outside and that was shallow of them.

You have to date in your league otherwise it causes too many problems and once you've been with a beautiful women, it's hard to go back to anything else. You can't just trade a Ferrari in for a Skoda, it doesn't work like that but it makes you set your goals and standards higher.

That's why I told Kelly to improve himself.

Maybe it's the word "get" which offended tarantella the most; she was also offended before by the word "taken" if I recall right (or was it someone else?); these terms are probably seen as sexist by her even though those two words are so used by English-speaking women for men as well ie. This man is taken; I can't get a boyfriend, I have a boyfriend, I have a son. All are verbs of possession.

Naahh, who are you kidding, both Kelly and Kezzstar have similar mentality in that matter and their complaints are similar; she also mentioned one of the reasons why she broke up with her ex was his resistance to change his weight.

- Both have weight issues but both feel entitled to "hot" / "high quality" (six packs) partners.

- But at the same time, both are worried and self-aware that they don't have what it takes to have a "hot"/"High quality" partner; Kezzstar has lost hope more than Kelly in this quest for the time being .

- Both don't seem willing to "downgrade" their choices in term of looks though.

Last edited by The_Face_of_Boo on 13 Aug 2014, 9:35 am, edited 2 times in total.

Exactly, I lost 40 lbs, got down to 6% body fat and a chiseled jawline, grew my hair, took a tons of supplements and used Rogaine to fill in any receding patches in my scalp and hairline. I used baking soda to whiten my teeth, improved my complexion with a range of supplements and healthy eating like vegetables, bought expensive shoes, tight jeans and cardigans that show off my 29 inch waist line and 44 inch chest that I achieved and now I'm learning pure and statistical mathematics to help me with trading on the stock market and planning for the future. It's all about improving your situation and believing in yourself, you might be against the odds but you've got to push yourself.

You have to make effort to improve yourself, even if there's people out there smarter, more handsome and stronger than you which there are. I'll admit there are people out there with the right connections, the right smarts and everything but you have to believe. People laughed at Arnold when he came to the US, Directors told him he had a silly accent and he didn't have a good name for acting yet he persisted and look where it got him.

?The only thing that I see that is distinctly different about me is I'm not afraid to die on a treadmill. I will not be out-worked, period. You might have more talent than me, you might be smarter than me, you might be sexier than me, you might be all of those things you got it on me in nine categories. But if we get on the treadmill together, there's two things: You're getting off first, or I'm going to die. It's really that simple, right?
You're not going to out-work me. It's such a simple, basic concept. The guy who is willing to hustle the most is going to be the guy that just gets that loose ball. The majority of people who aren't getting the places they want or aren't achieving the things that they want in this business is strictly based on hustle. It's strictly based on being out-worked; it's strictly based on missing crucial opportunities. I say all the time if you stay ready, you ain't gotta get ready.?
― Will Smith

Unfortunately, sometimes all the ones I find attractive are taken. While I have to work years to improve myself, I think by that time there may be no more single ones available.

I really would like to apologise for the above post Tarantella.
I think I went over the top.
I know your message is basically a positive one.
Your opinions are every bit as good as anyones.
I got to thinking about the depth of emotion you seem to have on certain issues and it must be there for a real reason.
I cant help but thinking we should be on the same side on a few of these topics.
If you'd like the post deleted I can manage that.

6 months, you can get in decent shape. 1 year, you can get in good shape. 2 years you can get into fantastic shape.

I'm already a 140lb skinny guy with no muscle tone, 5'6 1/2" too, at least according to my official height stat.