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02 Apr 2015, 11:57 pm

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Well if your passion is cockroaches, good luck finding another girl to discuss cockroaches with. You find a pretty girl who has a fascination for cockroaches and likes you back, you better not let her go.

Some interests are just more popular then others like music for example. Girls like guys who sing and play guitar right? If you're a decent singer and you play pretty good guitar, you will impress some ladies. Unfortunately I sound like an out of tune billy goat when I sing so I will just stick to lead guitar. But someone who sings and plays guitar is usually more valuable then someone who doesn't sing and plays guitar.



as one of the very few int he world who has no musical talent it sucks.
when women talk about talent or giftedness its almost always playing an instrument or art. guess women prefer more liberal men. o.O :(



I hate to break it to you but it's TRUE: Women generally do prefer more liberal men. But even though you have no musical talent, do you have any artistic talent? If yes then by golly make use of it! If not, find *something* that you're good at and really focus your time and energy at doing it.

The most sagacious piece of advice I've ever come across about finding romance is...............*drumroll*........

If you are looking for the love of your life, STOP. They will be waiting there when you are doing things that you love.


looks around his room ... nope they aren't around for my video game playing.
looks around the woods, nope they aren't around for shooting/camping/airsoft.
don't seem to be around money collecting either.

turns out people gather around only popular hobbies like music, arts, poetry, crafting, etc.

advice only works for people into mainstream hobbies.
for others you better be out looking for love cause it isn't going find you.

people do like happy people as friends, don't mean you'll get a gf, but on the flipside, sad people get gfs all the time too it seems. so maybe being happy/sad has nothing to do with it.

plenty of people like me, its never got me a gf.



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03 Apr 2015, 12:46 am

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I put effort into appearance, yet I still look terrible. I take a shower every day, yet I still smell and my hair is greasy.

It might be your clothes. Come to think of it, I should probably launder my shirts and jackets soon...



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03 Apr 2015, 1:20 am

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I put effort into appearance, yet I still look terrible. I take a shower every day, yet I still smell and my hair is greasy.

It might be your clothes. Come to think of it, I should probably launder my shirts and jackets soon...


been told my shirts look ruffled some, do people really iron their clothes each day before putting them on?

i don't see how anyone has time to live. 8 hour shift, 1-2 hour drive each way, 15 min shower, 30 min shave, eating, ironing clothes, shining shoes etc. o.O



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03 Apr 2015, 1:31 am

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been told my shirts look ruffled some, do people really iron their clothes each day before putting them on?

i don't see how anyone has time to live. 8 hour shift, 1-2 hour drive each way, 15 min shower, 30 min shave, eating, ironing clothes, shining shoes etc. o.O

I don't, but then I haven't had to deal with a job that required neat polos and khakis. My old man occasionally spends time ironing some of his shirts out, though.



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03 Apr 2015, 5:13 am

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If you are looking for the love of your life, STOP. They will be waiting there when you are doing things that you love.

That's a great idea. The problem is there's almost no single women in my social circle (work, uni, code jams, rpg events) at all. What's a good way to find smart open minded women? I'm thinking about book clubs and bar quizzes.



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03 Apr 2015, 9:21 am

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Solution to this problem: seek out other Aspies, rather than non-Aspies, as romantic partners.


That'd be a great idea if aspie girls were far more common. I think I only know like 4 irl and I know too many aspie guys to count.



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03 Apr 2015, 12:31 pm

sly279 wrote:
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Well if your passion is cockroaches, good luck finding another girl to discuss cockroaches with. You find a pretty girl who has a fascination for cockroaches and likes you back, you better not let her go.

Some interests are just more popular then others like music for example. Girls like guys who sing and play guitar right? If you're a decent singer and you play pretty good guitar, you will impress some ladies. Unfortunately I sound like an out of tune billy goat when I sing so I will just stick to lead guitar. But someone who sings and plays guitar is usually more valuable then someone who doesn't sing and plays guitar.



as one of the very few int he world who has no musical talent it sucks.
when women talk about talent or giftedness its almost always playing an instrument or art. guess women prefer more liberal men. o.O :(



I hate to break it to you but it's TRUE: Women generally do prefer more liberal men. But even though you have no musical talent, do you have any artistic talent? If yes then by golly make use of it! If not, find *something* that you're good at and really focus your time and energy at doing it.

The most sagacious piece of advice I've ever come across about finding romance is...............*drumroll*........

If you are looking for the love of your life, STOP. They will be waiting there when you are doing things that you love.


looks around his room ... nope they aren't around for my video game playing.
looks around the woods, nope they aren't around for shooting/camping/airsoft.
don't seem to be around money collecting either.

turns out people gather around only popular hobbies like music, arts, poetry, crafting, etc.

advice only works for people into mainstream hobbies.
for others you better be out looking for love cause it isn't going find you.

people do like happy people as friends, don't mean you'll get a gf, but on the flipside, sad people get gfs all the time too it seems. so maybe being happy/sad has nothing to do with it.

plenty of people like me, its never got me a gf.




If hobbies and interests don't work, you really might wanna go for online dating. Quite frankly, hobbies and other real life social activities have NEVER helped me get a gf....let alone get dates. It is often a useful way to make new friends and get practice socializing but when it comes to finding twue wuv it really doesn't work for everyone. The point of making art and music is that they are things that you can share with other people and for some reason women really get turned on(sexually)buy it. Art is not even unique to humans! Males from other species, like bower bird, use art as a way to broadcast the quality of their genes. As for music, just observe the mating calls of songbirds and humpback whales.



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03 Apr 2015, 1:16 pm

Speaking of relationships I've come to a conclusion.

Confidence doesn’t come quickly. I need to learn to be confident with myself appearance wise, but I couldn’t be confident at a weight over 230-235. I wouldn’t be confident at a size over a 20. This beautiful no matter what crap is why an actually healthy lifestyle is frowned upon. If I were a guy, I’d rather date a girl who lives off of Slim-Fast and carrots than a girl who stuffs her freaking face with junk food.
I expect my future boyfriend to eat healthy too. I’d expect him to work out. Basically, I expect from a guy what I expect from myself.

If I were to date a guy with Aspergers who has sensory problems to my perfumes and makeup he needs to remember that I would expect him to wear cologne and smell good.


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03 Apr 2015, 2:30 pm

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If hobbies and interests don't work, you really might wanna go for online dating. Quite frankly, hobbies and other real life social activities have NEVER helped me get a gf....let alone get dates. It is often a useful way to make new friends and get practice socializing but when it comes to finding twue wuv it really doesn't work for everyone. The point of making art and music is that they are things that you can share with other people and for some reason women really get turned on(sexually)buy it. Art is not even unique to humans! Males from other species, like bower bird, use art as a way to broadcast the quality of their genes. As for music, just observe the mating calls of songbirds and humpback whales.


tried online dating for years now. given up. just working on accepting the fact I'm gonna be alone for the last 8ish years I'm alive. reality is not everyone gets to be loved have gf and fun life. many live crappy single unfun lives and die.



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03 Apr 2015, 4:14 pm

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I do think there is a difference between being quiet (introverted) and having poor social skills. I can be quiet and still exhibit odd behavior, or not give off the correct non-verbal cues, etc.

"Quiet" and "introverted" are not the same thing.
What I think is important are two aspects of communication which aspies tend to suck at. The first is non verbal the second is "ambiguous".



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03 Apr 2015, 4:40 pm

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A lot of aspies have trouble with dating and relationships. It's not that having aspergers makes us unattractive, it's some of the traits associated with it that makes it harder to date and appeal to the opposite sex.

For one thing, the social difficulties. Every single one of us have social challenges to a certain degree. Some of us for instance, come off as rude and cold because we're brutally honest or we seem to not care about the people we're talking with. Others are very shy and have very bad social anxiety so it's impossible to maintain a conversation with someone we like. While others aren't very good social talkers in general, talking isn't their natural state and talking is required for building relationships. Dating is hard for anyone, having Aspergers probably makes it slighty harder.

Hygiene and look wise can also be a problem but this one is easily preventable. No offense but I see a lot of aspie guys who don't put a lot of effort into their looks. Never combing your hair, never brushing your teeth, not caring about how you look, wearing the same baggy clothes. Smelling like a trash can isn't going to help either. The good news is that you can make yourself better looking by making changes to your hygiene.


Actually us aspies are some of the coolest people you'll ever meet once you get to know us. Many of us have a unique sense of humor and unique perspective on life and unique special interests as well.


I put effort into appearance, yet I still look terrible. I take a shower every day, yet I still smell and my hair is greasy. I really wish I could look more attractive.


Those feels. :( Ive heard washing every 3 days helps. Some people no poo.



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03 Apr 2015, 4:53 pm

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If hobbies and interests don't work, you really might wanna go for online dating. Quite frankly, hobbies and other real life social activities have NEVER helped me get a gf....let alone get dates. It is often a useful way to make new friends and get practice socializing but when it comes to finding twue wuv it really doesn't work for everyone. The point of making art and music is that they are things that you can share with other people and for some reason women really get turned on(sexually)buy it. Art is not even unique to humans! Males from other species, like bower bird, use art as a way to broadcast the quality of their genes. As for music, just observe the mating calls of songbirds and humpback whales.


tried online dating for years now. given up. just working on accepting the fact I'm gonna be alone for the last 8ish years I'm alive. reality is not everyone gets to be loved have gf and fun life. many live crappy single unfun lives and die.



Well a winner never quits and quitter never wins. I don't have a gf right now and it looks like I probably won't for a while after going through a horrendous breakup late last year. But if you truly give up completely and do NOTHING to meet new people through any channel, you will end up like you describe.



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04 Apr 2015, 4:16 pm

Because I look like this when talking to women. LOL

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04 Apr 2015, 6:13 pm

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If hobbies and interests don't work, you really might wanna go for online dating. Quite frankly, hobbies and other real life social activities have NEVER helped me get a gf....let alone get dates. It is often a useful way to make new friends and get practice socializing but when it comes to finding twue wuv it really doesn't work for everyone. The point of making art and music is that they are things that you can share with other people and for some reason women really get turned on(sexually)buy it. Art is not even unique to humans! Males from other species, like bower bird, use art as a way to broadcast the quality of their genes. As for music, just observe the mating calls of songbirds and humpback whales.


tried online dating for years now. given up. just working on accepting the fact I'm gonna be alone for the last 8ish years I'm alive. reality is not everyone gets to be loved have gf and fun life. many live crappy single unfun lives and die.



Well a winner never quits and quitter never wins. I don't have a gf right now and it looks like I probably won't for a while after going through a horrendous breakup late last year. But if you truly give up completely and do NOTHING to meet new people through any channel, you will end up like you describe.


out of women to message/meet.

but sometimes quitters do win, and determined people don't always win.

breakup means you had a gf. so you're way ahead of me.

27 and never had a relationship. its over for me. just going try to enjoy what little i can and what little time is left.



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04 Apr 2015, 8:20 pm

I wouldn't say that those of us with Aspergers are considered unattractive to the opposite sex, I think we just appear unavailable. To explain this further, for example, I frequently find myself oblivious to the signs a man gives when he is attracted to me and this can come off as disinterest rather than my inability to understand his intentions. I also am not looking for a relationship so I am usually preoccupied in my own world, this may be why men are hesitant to approach. Nothing about Aspergers is a turn off. We are awesome people! We are just disconnected at times to the outside world and we are harder to get to know.



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04 Apr 2015, 8:37 pm

^ Yeah. As long as we show interest in what others are thinking these quandaries eventually resolve themselves. All we really need to do is be patient.


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