What DOESN'T count as Nice Guy behavior?

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13 Jun 2016, 4:45 am

AnnoyingKid wrote:

The answer is keeping your interest in her at around the same level as her interest in you.

Exactly. That's very important, and avoids most of the problems like trouble with rejections, and the other party moving on while you have a strong crush.

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Nice Guys are any boy or man who has internalized the prince charming message from all angles in the media and society and is angry about finding out it's all a lie.

That's and interesting point, and I think it has a lot of merit.

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14 Jun 2016, 10:56 am

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Wanting to befriend a woman in order to date her is a crime punishable by death to SJWs, but a religion that subjugates womens and kills those who leave it, that's the religion of peace.

Yeah, NTs are strange.

What? It is not about being NTs and not, it's about being SJWs.

Seems to be a huge overlap between them.

Does it occur to you that people grow weary of all the us vs. them sentiment concerning neurotypicals...you talk about them like some inferior sub-species which is not conductive to anything expect making it look like you have a superiority complex over being ND.

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14 Jun 2016, 11:08 am

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When people call you a "Nice Guy", it means they think you're manipulative and insincere. Not to be confused with a nice guy.

A "Nice Guy" habitually capitulates to women's whims ("Yes, dear") ... is afraid to lose the woman he is with ("Please, don't leave me!") ... has zero leadership ability ("Whatever you want") ... lacks confidence ("Do you like me? Do you really like me?") ... and, worst of all has thinly-veiled ulterior motives (he can't keep his eyes and hands off of her).

It's easy to see why "Nice Guys" easily slip from the "Friend Zone" right into the "Creep Zone".

Some of this is blatant generalization. My father gets blasted if he doesn't do what he's told when he's told to. Believe me, my mother does not want a man that refuses to follow instructions and thinks he can boss her around.

I always feel sad for guys in relationships with women like that...and think they should break up with such women. What she doesn't want to be bossed around but she feels it's ok to boss him around? Sounds like a hypocrite, not trying to talk crap about your family but that is not healthy behavior.

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14 Jun 2016, 11:14 am

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The thing is, most "Nice Guys TM" that get insulted by SJWs are extremely careful about what they say about women. It's just when SJWs attack him, is when he usually resorts to words like "b***h" and "c**t". Either that or their message gets photoshopped.

You know what? I think I'll hire a lawyer and get any nice-guy-bashing website shut down. Shouldn't it be illegal to post somebody's private Facebook messages with their name or image intact?

Also should the woman they've developed an infatuation for turn out not to be interested in them romantically even after all the 'nice' things he did for her...he will also resort to words like b***h and s***t to describe her and her 'refusal' to go out with him as well.

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15 Jun 2016, 7:28 am

Look, just because I don't let people take advantage of me, doesn't make me an a**hole. I just don't put up with people's BS. I'm not going to be like "yeah, I'm totally just mad cause I want sex and not because I am being bullied and harrassed" unless I mean it in a sarcastic way.

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15 Jun 2016, 12:39 pm

Aaendi wrote:

Look, just because I don't let people take advantage of me, doesn't make me an as*hole. I just don't put up with people's BS. I'm not going to be like "yeah, I'm totally just mad cause I want sex and not because I am being bullied and harrassed" unless I mean it in a sarcastic way.

I didn't say anything about you, I was talking about what people consider the nice guy in the negative connotation. A 'nice guy' will likely turn around and start calling whatever women they were infatuated with a b**h, c**t or number of other profanities if she proves not to have mutual romantic interest. Not just if a SJW confronts them about 'nice guy' behavior.

If you don't do that than you're not the sort of 'nice guy' people complain about

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15 Jun 2016, 2:08 pm

I wasn't responding to you, I was responding to the people who think they can totally 1up me by linking to other thread posts out of context.

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18 Jun 2016, 10:01 pm

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If by "people's BS", you mean "people not waiting on me hand and foot", then I can totally see that.

God, why can't you just admit that this has nothing to do with sexism, and that you just want humanity to act as your servants because you think you deserve to be treated like a god for simply existing, and that whenever someone decides to not give you what you want, you treat it as a sin and something that needs to be outed for!?

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18 Jun 2016, 10:25 pm

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Aaendi wrote:

When did I say in that thread that I felt entitled to sex? Answer: nowhere
When did I say women were machines or sex objects? Answer: nowhere

Then why do you have the need to retaliate for being "friendzoned"?

Obviously, a need for retaliation (or "flip it around", to use your words") implies - by definition - that you somehow feel slighted, attacked and/or wronged, and that she has no right to "friendzone" you.

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The thing is, I don't want to be nice. Being nice is what got me into this trouble in the first place.

No need to worry then. You do not appear to be at high risk of contracting this insidious affliction...

Then why do you have the need to retaliate for being "friendzoned"?

Obviously, a need for retaliation (or "flip it around", to use your words") implies - by definition - that you somehow feel slighted, attacked and/or wronged, and that she has no right to "friendzone" you.

That's what I've been saying all along.

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19 Jun 2016, 3:04 am

and the neverending Nice Guys story goes on...

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