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02 Jul 2016, 12:39 pm

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^ you're right that dating men isn't care free.

But *all* bisexual girls I knew told me that dating girls is overall much harder - harder to find dates with, harder to maintain.

All of them.


Well, let's see.....

Married men live longer than single men, but the same isn't true for married women for whom their life expectancy is increased by friendships with other women, not romantic relationships with men. After getting out of long-term-relationships, men report feelings of lingering depression and despondence, while women report feeling relieved. Most divorces are initiated by women. Hell, the oldest women in Scotland at 106 years (and a non-married virgin) gave her advice for living a long, happy life which was essentially, "Eat right, exercise, and stay away from men."

I was friends with a marriage councilor who informed me that the majority of her clients come in because the wife is wanting a divorce on account of her husband is basically just another child she needs to care for, and she's tired of dumping her emotions into the human equivalent of a black hole.

Based on the aforementioned, women may receive the bigger financial benefit from relationships, men receive the bigger emotional benefit.


It doesn't sound like you care too much for men



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02 Jul 2016, 12:53 pm

Jacoby wrote:
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^ you're right that dating men isn't care free.

But *all* bisexual girls I knew told me that dating girls is overall much harder - harder to find dates with, harder to maintain.

All of them.


Well, let's see.....

Married men live longer than single men, but the same isn't true for married women for whom their life expectancy is increased by friendships with other women, not romantic relationships with men. After getting out of long-term-relationships, men report feelings of lingering depression and despondence, while women report feeling relieved. Most divorces are initiated by women. Hell, the oldest women in Scotland at 106 years (and a non-married virgin) gave her advice for living a long, happy life which was essentially, "Eat right, exercise, and stay away from men."

I was friends with a marriage councilor who informed me that the majority of her clients come in because the wife is wanting a divorce on account of her husband is basically just another child she needs to care for, and she's tired of dumping her emotions into the human equivalent of a black hole.

Based on the aforementioned, women may receive the bigger financial benefit from relationships, men receive the bigger emotional benefit.


It doesn't sound like you care too much for men


No, I'm just pointing out the results of different studies, and some of my personal experiences in response to the idea that dating women is harder than dating men.


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02 Jul 2016, 12:55 pm

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You're content to "dismiss" women's issues. So far, the main "men's issues" you've mentioned revolve around sex/dating/romance, and, the simple truth is, there's more than sex/dating/romance issues that make a person's life "difficult."

Additionally, dating men isn't exactly as easy and care-free as some of the guys here seem to think.


How am I dismissing women's issues and where am I saying that is the only thing making people's lives difficult? That's nonsense and you are putting words in my mouth. The 'men's issues' I bring up on this forum revolve around relationships, what else are they suppose to be about? What is the purpose of this subforum other than that?

I'd say I've been pretty candid about myself, the difficulties I have, and what is holding me back. I think you have the wrong guy.

Also be my guest and explain the difficulties, maybe we'll learn something


Yeah, the whole "men have it harder" is dismissing women's issues.


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02 Jul 2016, 1:03 pm

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Pot. Kettle. Black.

You're content to "dismiss" women's issues. So far, the main "men's issues" you've mentioned revolve around sex/dating/romance, and, the simple truth is, there's more than sex/dating/romance issues that make a person's life "difficult."

Additionally, dating men isn't exactly as easy and care-free as some of the guys here seem to think.


How am I dismissing women's issues and where am I saying that is the only thing making people's lives difficult? That's nonsense and you are putting words in my mouth. The 'men's issues' I bring up on this forum revolve around relationships, what else are they suppose to be about? What is the purpose of this subforum other than that?

I'd say I've been pretty candid about myself, the difficulties I have, and what is holding me back. I think you have the wrong guy.

Also be my guest and explain the difficulties, maybe we'll learn something


Yeah, the whole "men have it harder" is dismissing women's issues.

It's not dismissing anything, I'm not trying to shut down conversation like you are.



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02 Jul 2016, 1:06 pm

hurtloam wrote:
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^ you're right that dating men isn't care free.

But *all* bisexual girls I knew told me that dating girls is overall much harder - harder to find dates with, harder to maintain.

All of them.


Ah. But wouldn't it be more difficult to find another woman who is attracted to women rather than a man who is attracted to women?


But why would it be harder to maintain?

While bi/lesbian are a minority, they tend to form closed communities/clubs, so it would be easy for them to find each others. The bi women I knew didn't complain that they are not finding women attracted to women, they complained about dating women....exactly like how many guys complain about dating women: about being constantly rejected, having to approach girls, no one talking to them first...etc



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02 Jul 2016, 1:07 pm

[quote="Jacoby"]Why those women are alone I can't tell you but I have said that this natural advantage really fades after age 30, again folk knowledge but is it wrong? It really is biology when it comes down to it, those peak fertile years are coincidentally the same years that women have most suitors.[/quote ]

Yeah, but there are women that no one wants even when they are at the peak of fertility.



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02 Jul 2016, 1:10 pm

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^ you're right that dating men isn't care free.

But *all* bisexual girls I knew told me that dating girls is overall much harder - harder to find dates with, harder to maintain.

All of them.


Well, let's see.....

Married men live longer than single men, but the same isn't true for married women for whom their life expectancy is increased by friendships with other women, not romantic relationships with men. After getting out of long-term-relationships, men report feelings of lingering depression and despondence, while women report feeling relieved. Most divorces are initiated by women. Hell, the oldest women in Scotland at 106 years (and a non-married virgin) gave her advice for living a long, happy life which was essentially, "Eat right, exercise, and stay away from men."

I was friends with a marriage councilor who informed me that the majority of her clients come in because the wife is wanting a divorce on account of her husband is basically just another child she needs to care for, and she's tired of dumping her emotions into the human equivalent of a black hole.

Based on the aforementioned, women may receive the bigger financial benefit from relationships, men receive the bigger emotional benefit.



Ok, you are right. I agree.



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02 Jul 2016, 1:12 pm

hurtloam wrote:
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Why those women are alone I can't tell you but I have said that this natural advantage really fades after age 30, again folk knowledge but is it wrong? It really is biology when it comes down to it, those peak fertile years are coincidentally the same years that women have most suitors.[/quote ]

Yeah, but there are women that no one wants even when they are at the peak of fertility.


I never said there wasn't.



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02 Jul 2016, 1:16 pm

Jacoby wrote:
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Why those women are alone I can't tell you but I have said that this natural advantage really fades after age 30, again folk knowledge but is it wrong? It really is biology when it comes down to it, those peak fertile years are coincidentally the same years that women have most suitors.[/quote ]

Yeah, but there are women that no one wants even when they are at the peak of fertility.


I never said there wasn't.


What point where you making then? Their age now has nothing to do with the fact that no one wanted them at prime fertility age.



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02 Jul 2016, 1:43 pm

hurtloam wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
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Jacoby wrote:
Why those women are alone I can't tell you but I have said that this natural advantage really fades after age 30, again folk knowledge but is it wrong? It really is biology when it comes down to it, those peak fertile years are coincidentally the same years that women have most suitors.[/quote ]

Yeah, but there are women that no one wants even when they are at the peak of fertility.


I never said there wasn't.


What point where you making then? Their age now has nothing to do with the fact that no one wanted them at prime fertility age.


I don't know the women, I don't know them now or 20 years ago so I can't give you an answer as to why nobody was ever interested in them. How am I supposed to know this? The point was simply that single women over 30 become more disadvantaged like men because then they have to compete with other women that are younger, more attractive, and more "fertile" for a shrinking part of the male population.

If nothing changes and I'm as isolated as I am now then I'll probably blow my dang brains out 20 years from now. It's great you have these close friendships but that's not something guys really do, all my male friends either backstabbed me or started doing heroin and cut me out of their lives. You women always feel such a need to defend other women I don't understand, it's such a funny contrast when you compare it to men who are ready to throw the entire gender under the bus at the drop of a hat. There is no solidarity.



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02 Jul 2016, 2:10 pm

[/quote]It doesn't sound like you care too much for men[/quote]

Literally not one word of her post stated any personal opinion whatsoever about men.
Your response is just a generic, sexist insult. One that some WP men seem fond of throwing around.



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02 Jul 2016, 2:18 pm

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It's not dismissing anything, I'm not trying to shut down conversation like you are.(I sense a lot of contempt and hostility in your posts) If you have anything to add or respond to then go for it I am all ears but you are the one summing my posts up into being mad about 'not getting laid', it is you that is being dismissive and rude to boot. I am sorry you hate men, I don't hate women.


I don't hate men. Pointing out that dating men isn't necessarily "easier" is not "hating men." If you'd like, I can post a bunch of reasons why dating NT women sucks (but Boo usually has a good handle on that).

Now you're putting words into my mouth. Try not to be so quick to jump into "victim-mode," or dismiss my comments by accusing me of hating men.


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02 Jul 2016, 2:21 pm

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^ you're right that dating men isn't care free.

But *all* bisexual girls I knew told me that dating girls is overall much harder - harder to find dates with, harder to maintain.

All of them.


Well, let's see.....

Married men live longer than single men, but the same isn't true for married women for whom their life expectancy is increased by friendships with other women, not romantic relationships with men. After getting out of long-term-relationships, men report feelings of lingering depression and despondence, while women report feeling relieved. Most divorces are initiated by women. Hell, the oldest women in Scotland at 106 years (and a non-married virgin) gave her advice for living a long, happy life which was essentially, "Eat right, exercise, and stay away from men."

I was friends with a marriage councilor who informed me that the majority of her clients come in because the wife is wanting a divorce on account of her husband is basically just another child she needs to care for, and she's tired of dumping her emotions into the human equivalent of a black hole.

Based on the aforementioned, women may receive the bigger financial benefit from relationships, men receive the bigger emotional benefit.



Ok, you are right. I agree.


Don't worry.

I don't think dating women is "easier" either.

I don't envy you sexuals one bit.


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02 Jul 2016, 2:29 pm

You said that married women die younger, women who just have 'friendships' with other women live longer, that women are happier when leaving relationships with men, that men are emotional babies that need cared for, and that the biggest advantage women get out of relationships with men is financial. I'm sorry, I thought that sounded like you didn't like men.



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02 Jul 2016, 2:36 pm

ok, who invited the feminists and LGBT? I suppose everyone is allowed here... still, LGBT is NOT part of what my original post was about. the feminism? slightly. This thread is essentially worthless now; A breeding ground for haters. For anyone wanting GOOD answers stick to pages 1-4. oh, and this probably won't matter but my post is going to get a lot of toxic responses from... you guess! "Smile less, your fangs are showing"


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