The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Don't ask such questions; you won't get answers.
Observe instead.
At the beach, I was subtly watching what makes girls' heads turn - and it's a six-packed guy everytime.
It was extremely obvious - women even tend to be even less subtle while they're starting at some guy (probably because they don't get scorned if they do so) and you can literally see their heads turning fixated at the target.
From what I've observed many times, no other body type makes their heads turn except the toned and six packed type.
All other types passed as if they're invisibles.
I actually have to agree with this. A lot of women don't like to say they like to look at muscular men, probably because somehow people fear others will think they are shallow if they like what is generally considered the most attractive. Mind you, people actually have different preferences and some women will actually not like the looks of muscular men but I've always had the impression that there are a lot more women who say they don't like this look than ones that actually don't like it.
Men might not be better though. A lot of men claim they don't care if a women wears make-up or don't think it's attractive and this certainly is true for some of these men but likely not for all.
Either way, that women have a tendency to look at muscular men doesn't necessarily mean muscular men will more easily find a girlfriend.
For example some muscular men would simply look too serious for me. I might glance at them walking by but if I'd actually talk to them for a while and they didn't smile a single time I'd not be attracted to them. Of course it's not true for all muscular men but some have very little mimic and always look serious and there's nothing physically more unattractive than an inability to smile.
I don't know if the same is true for other women or if that's just me.
mended wrote:
Men with muscles look like they'd be aggressive. So no that's not attractive.
I think this is true too and might be a reason why some women (even if a lot of them might still look at muscular men) are not that attracted to muscular men.
There probably is no correlation between being muscular and being violent but it's more about what a women might feel than what she might think when she meets a muscular guy.
Again I don't know about other women, but very tall very muscular strangers tend to make me feel uneasy (in any context that might indicate they could be interested in me. If they just e.g. ask me which train goes to whatever place they don't make me uneasy). This doesn't mean that I think they will do anything to me. I know that most of them are not violent but if I were alone with one of them and he were violent I'd not have the slightest chance to defend myself. Other men could also be violent and most of them are also stronger than me but I'd still feel like I'd have a chance to defend myself and this makes a huge difference for how I feel about it. I know this isn't completely rational as it probably wouldn't cross my mind that the guy could be dangerous if he's not tall and strong unless he did something that indicated he might be whereas if he is tall and strong I'd feel uneasy - especially if he's one of these guys who lack mimic.
What's more funny, that a lot of women think of what's naturally muscular and naturally "lean"... is actually ain't.
Women don't hear the guys in the gym lockers talking about the injections, fat burners and the supplements they take (which aren't recognized by FDA nor by any other pharmaceutical authority and usually full of roid and T. materials) as much as we....other men witness.
Men who take these stuff, don't mention it in front of women.
I bet that lot of the body photos posted by Outrider are seen as "natural" by a lot of women.
It's like how many men who fail to see makeup, like they are "Oh she's naturally beautiful!" yet they fail to see the ton of makeup on her face or they fail to see the unnaturally symmetric pair she has, as if she was born with red lips and rosy cheeks - It's laughable.