Self-loathing and relationships

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Which I’ve done but It’s ignored, or said it’s not enough. They don’t care I’m doing all I can, they accuse me of lying about my difficulties and experiences.

How can we talk them out of suicide if they're forbidden from talking about it?

Suicidal thoughts are a serious concern that should be discussed without taboo.

If we tell suicidal people they can't talk about it, it will make them feel more alone and then they'll be more likely to do it.

I would prefer to talk about someone's suicidal thoughts then have them act on them. I would prefer to risk feeling uncomfortable rather than risk their life.

Depressed people are already isolated enough so let's not take away their chance to call for help.

I think he was being sarcastic?

For many of us here wp is all we have left. Yet the minority here tell us to keep quite. Don’t say anything unless it’s positive. To create a fake political correct world here just like we have in the rest of the world. Basically thst we aren’t wanted anywhere.

If you are in fact making an effort to treat your depression, and are making progress, then good for you. It would be SO MUCH BETTER to read you make threads and posts about that instead of dwelling on the darkest most negative thoughts that pass through your mind. I have noticed that in the last few weeks you've significantly reduced the frequency at which you post that you want to die, so, that's something & a start at least. People would MUCH RATHER support your efforts at improvement than hear about only the negative things in your life.

That was rude. I'm not mean. It's incredibly rare that I'm mean to anyone, ever, in any aspect of my life, and when I am they most certainly deserve it. I can't even think of the last time I was ever mean to someone tbh. I'm a very giving, generous, charitable, and helpful person. To call me mean is the result of some very distorted thinking.

So focus your posts and thread topics on your healing efforts and progress, not on things you dislike about yourself and your life. It would make a big difference in your healing process.

I've never ever told you to shut up or go away. I have suggested that you stop complaining so much and focus on anything positive instead. There's a big difference between what I said and what you interpret it as.

You are right, sly, for a 35yo autistic man renting from his parents my life IS pretty fantastic! I was at beaches around 120 times last year both hanging out and kiteboarding, and dozens of times already this year. I'm pretty fit, my sex life is as good as I want it to be, I have many friends & family members to spend time with when I want to, I can get jobs and work whenever, I'm not depressed or anxious much at all ever anymore, I've accumulated some financial wealth, I drive a brand new car, and I'm going to pursue the most ambitious undertaking of my life when I return to University studies at least part time this year, and then full time as finances allow.. my ASD symptoms are well under control compared to how they once were.. etc etc etc. I don't share these things to boast or rub it in, I share them to show others that it's 100% entirely possible to change your entire life for the better. That one can go from $110K in debt, bankrupt, almost homeless & living in a construction site, very unhealthy, out of shape, with strong ASD symptoms, executive functioning issues to the nth degree, horrific depression & crippling anxiety... to who I am today. I share to inspire, not to belittle. I offer advice & suggestions to help, not to be mean. I hang around here because I've grown to like many of the personalities I interact with here.. plus it's addictive.. and I've had a LOT of free time this Winter - once I decide to work full time+ hours again I won't be online here anywhere near as much as I have been. If everyone who bettered themselves left a support forum like this, who would be around to do any supporting? What quality of interactions or advice would transpire if only the most depressed people were online? This forum is a bit like doing the Tough Mudder.. we don't quit & we don't leave anyone behind. If I get to the top first, I don't carry on running. I stop, look back, reach my long strong arm down & pull the next person up. In fact, I literally pull a dozen+ people up until I physically can't anymore and then I move forward, with them. People like me don't give up on people like you anywhere near as easily as you do. It's not in me, or anyone like me, to let you fail.

The probability of you getting a gf tomorrow and it working out is slim to none. That's reality. That's why myself and others consistently remind you that you'd be better off working on improving yourself in every way so that you're a much more datable sly before you try to jump into the dating world. You would have a MUCH greater chance of success after you've overcome your depression & anxiety, and perhaps gotten yourself into better physical shape, and worked towards a more prosperous financial life, too. Even without physical fitness & money, you'd be a MUCH better candidate for a date than someone who is highly anxious and suicidally depressed. If I were mean I wouldn't care whether you got better or not, and I certainly wouldn't have offered to pay for some of the resources I think could help you learn and grow.

Again, I haven't ever come here to bash anyone. I come to learn things I need to learn, to discuss things of interest with personalities I've gotten to know and like, and to offer my advice to others who have yet to achieve the things I have on my journey because I've done them and am in a better position to offer helpful advice on how to achieve them than other people who have not.

Offer's still open, sly. I would still pay for that book/audiobook, and if you were open to trying other things that have worked for me I'd be open to discussing paying for them, too. If you have a will to learn, grow, heal, overcome your depression & anxiety, get in better physical shape etc then I would gladly volunteer my time to advise you how to best do it (based on the best of my knowledge & experiences) at the lowest possible dollar cost and even pay for things you Need along the way. I'm someone who went from $110K in debt and unable to work to making $150/month and spending 100% of it on bettering my health until I was able to work more and earn more, and then on to working more than full time, saving and investing, and catching up to & even surpassing many of my peers, so I know a thing or two about how to do this. But I also know it takes having a will to do it. If you do, I'll help you do it, and it won't be that many months-to-a-few-short years until you, too, are living a relatively fantastic life.

I think he was being sarcastic?

I think he was being sarcastic?

For many of us here wp is all we have left. Yet the minority here tell us to keep quite. Don’t say anything unless it’s positive. To create a fake political correct world here just like we have in the rest of the world. Basically thst we aren’t wanted anywhere.