My girlfriend wants to have a child but I'm not ready yet

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The_Face_of_Boo
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28 May 2018, 12:32 pm

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Honestly I don’t understand men who complain about child support, it’s the child’s right even if you end up hating the mother.

Perhaps you just don't understand what they complain about.

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Enlighten me.


Women who don't want to have a child can choose to abort it. Men are stuck paying child support (in some cases, for children that aren't even theirs) regardless of whether they ever wanted a kid or not.

In my view men should be allowed to "abort" a child they don't want; however, it requires they relinquish any and all parental rights. After all, if a woman chooses to terminate a pregnancy, she doesn't get to decide five years later that she made a mistake, and wants to be part of the child's life.


Umm... I dunno why peacesells considered me feminist lol.

There’s always a risk of pregnancy while having sex - an adult should having sex should be aware of that and take responsibility in case of accidental pregnancy.

You can’t leave a child without support just because it was accidental.

A law that forces a woman to abort if the man chooses so may be considered as phsysical abuse against her will, don’t you think?



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28 May 2018, 12:39 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Peacesells wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Honestly I don’t understand men who complain about child support, it’s the child’s right even if you end up hating the mother.

Perhaps you just don't understand what they complain about.

:|

Enlighten me.


Women who don't want to have a child can choose to abort it. Men are stuck paying child support (in some cases, for children that aren't even theirs) regardless of whether they ever wanted a kid or not.

In my view men should be allowed to "abort" a child they don't want; however, it requires they relinquish any and all parental rights. After all, if a woman chooses to terminate a pregnancy, she doesn't get to decide five years later that she made a mistake, and wants to be part of the child's life.


Umm... I dunno why peacesells considered me feminist lol.

There’s always a risk of pregnancy while having sex - an adult should having sex should be aware of that and take responsibility in case of accidental pregnancy.

You can’t leave a child without support just because it was accidental.

A law that forces a woman to abort if the man chooses so may be considered as phsysical abuse against her will, don’t you think?


I was thinking more of a symbolic "abortion." If he doesn't want the child, he shouldn't have to pay for it, but he also agrees that he gives up any and all parental rights.

As for there always being a pregnancy risk, pro-lifers use the same argument against abortion. The decision to have sex is not the decision to have a baby.


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28 May 2018, 12:51 pm

XFilesGeek wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Peacesells wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Honestly I don’t understand men who complain about child support, it’s the child’s right even if you end up hating the mother.

Perhaps you just don't understand what they complain about.

:|

Enlighten me.


Women who don't want to have a child can choose to abort it. Men are stuck paying child support (in some cases, for children that aren't even theirs) regardless of whether they ever wanted a kid or not.

In my view men should be allowed to "abort" a child they don't want; however, it requires they relinquish any and all parental rights. After all, if a woman chooses to terminate a pregnancy, she doesn't get to decide five years later that she made a mistake, and wants to be part of the child's life.

You CAN decide you made a mistake by having the child, however.https://www.myparentingjournal.com/how-to-put-a-teenager-in-foster-care/

Make them a ward of the state. Only do this if you are certain you never want them back.

I’ve also had the talk with my own kids about being careful what they say to other grownups. It ends with them in foster care, and I’ve been very clear and thorough about describing the foster care system to them. If we really are that abusive and horrible, do what you gotta do. Just make sure it’s worth it.

And occasionally I let them watch White Oleander.

But as parents, yeah, you always have options.



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28 May 2018, 2:23 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
There’s always a risk of pregnancy while having sex - an adult should having sex should be aware of that and take responsibility in case of accidental pregnancy.


Um, no. I have sex all the time and there is exactly Zero risk of pregnancy. There are also sex acts that heterosexual people do that have Zero risk of pregnancy.

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You can’t leave a child without support just because it was accidental.


Technically, you can. It's a dick move, but, people do it all the time. People have done it since before there were any laws written down to govern this behaviour & they always will do it. Some people don't feel any obligation to care or provide for children. Those people are outliers, but, they exist.. and there are plenty of them... and they do this all the time. Sooo, I guess people can do that.


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28 May 2018, 3:59 pm

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I was thinking more of a symbolic "abortion."


Thank f**k for that , I was beginning to think you had your account hijacked , I'm glad I never posted asking what you had been smoking :lol:


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28 May 2018, 4:26 pm

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I was thinking more of a symbolic "abortion."


Thank f**k for that , I was beginning to think you had your account hijacked , I'm glad I never posted asking what you had been smoking :lol:


I was posting prior to having my coffee, so I wasn't at my most articulate. :D


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28 May 2018, 5:36 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Peacesells wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Honestly I don’t understand men who complain about child support, it’s the child’s right even if you end up hating the mother.

Perhaps you just don't understand what they complain about.

:|

Enlighten me.


Women who don't want to have a child can choose to abort it. Men are stuck paying child support (in some cases, for children that aren't even theirs) regardless of whether they ever wanted a kid or not.

In my view men should be allowed to "abort" a child they don't want; however, it requires they relinquish any and all parental rights. After all, if a woman chooses to terminate a pregnancy, she doesn't get to decide five years later that she made a mistake, and wants to be part of the child's life.


Umm... I dunno why peacesells considered me feminist lol.

We all know you're a closet feminist Boo :lol:


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29 May 2018, 9:48 am

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Um, no. I have sex all the time and there is exactly Zero risk of pregnancy.

But you're gay...



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29 May 2018, 1:47 pm

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Um, no. I have sex all the time and there is exactly Zero risk of pregnancy.

But you're gay...


Uh-huh, and I was correcting his inaccurate statement that, "There's always a risk of pregnancy while having sex".. because there isn't. Even for heterosexuals there isn't always a risk of pregnancy. And even for unprotected vaginal sex, there isn't ALWAYS a risk of pregnancy. It simply isn't true.


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29 May 2018, 7:48 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
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goldfish21 wrote:
Um, no. I have sex all the time and there is exactly Zero risk of pregnancy.

But you're gay...


Uh-huh, and I was correcting his inaccurate statement that, "There's always a risk of pregnancy while having sex".. because there isn't. Even for heterosexuals there isn't always a risk of pregnancy. And even for unprotected vaginal sex, there isn't ALWAYS a risk of pregnancy. It simply isn't true.

Yes but I just found your example to be odd. Also most people wouldn't be so happy with just these other sexual acts I think.



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29 May 2018, 8:01 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
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There’s always a risk of pregnancy while having sex - an adult should having sex should be aware of that and take responsibility in case of accidental pregnancy.


Um, no. I have sex all the time and there is exactly Zero risk of pregnancy. There are also sex acts that heterosexual people do that have Zero risk of pregnancy.


Some of us aren't so lucky.


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29 May 2018, 8:10 pm

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goldfish21 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
There’s always a risk of pregnancy while having sex - an adult should having sex should be aware of that and take responsibility in case of accidental pregnancy.


Um, no. I have sex all the time and there is exactly Zero risk of pregnancy. There are also sex acts that heterosexual people do that have Zero risk of pregnancy.


Some of us aren't so lucky.

Not an expert, but I'd say that if you both use contraceptions the risk is almost completely brought to zero.



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29 May 2018, 9:36 pm

Peacesells wrote:
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goldfish21 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
There’s always a risk of pregnancy while having sex - an adult should having sex should be aware of that and take responsibility in case of accidental pregnancy.

Um, no. I have sex all the time and there is exactly Zero risk of pregnancy. There are also sex acts that heterosexual people do that have Zero risk of pregnancy.

Some of us aren't so lucky.

Not an expert, but I'd say that if you both use contraceptions the risk is almost completely brought to zero.

Contraceptives can fail. I still have more risk of getting someone pregnant than goldfish does.


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30 May 2018, 1:29 am

I think that goldfish is referring to non-intercouse heterosexual sex - like oral, foreplay and anal only.


In my experience though.... women, when are in midst of full horniness, drag their men to penetrate them. This happens a lot when I plan beforehand not to have any intercourse (even with condom), they reach a point of 'f*** me now!'.



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30 May 2018, 2:05 am

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well i would think as a country, we are festooned with asians.
it is all very well that the immigration quota is balanced, but they do breed like flies.
so one asian through the front door results in unbridled breeding.

in chatswood ( a suburb of sydney) you just can not move at a decent pace because it is plagued with asians. they are everywhere. asians always remain very patient in queues, and so the queues can be stagnant and you can not bust your way through the bamboozled crowds.

so maybe she should be more patriotic and heed the erosion of our bloodlines and therefore adopt an australian child instead.

god this is so going to be deleted.


Heil Trump!

Wow.

Anyways, any child born in Australia is Australian, regardless of skin colour or ethnic mix.

World travel is pretty new to humanity. So is interracial breeding. Eventually we’ll all be on bone structure and skin colour. I’ve thought this for many years. Others think so, too, and I even saw a computer generated rendering of what they think future humans will look like. Then there won’t be anymore them, only us.


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30 May 2018, 2:23 am

goldfish21 wrote:
b9 wrote:
well i would think as a country, we are festooned with asians.
it is all very well that the immigration quota is balanced, but they do breed like flies.
so one asian through the front door results in unbridled breeding.

in chatswood ( a suburb of sydney) you just can not move at a decent pace because it is plagued with asians. they are everywhere. asians always remain very patient in queues, and so the queues can be stagnant and you can not bust your way through the bamboozled crowds.

so maybe she should be more patriotic and heed the erosion of our bloodlines and therefore adopt an australian child instead.

god this is so going to be deleted.


Heil Trump!

Wow.

Anyways, any child born in Australia is Australian, regardless of skin colour or ethnic mix.

World travel is pretty new to humanity. So is interracial breeding. Eventually we’ll all be one bone structure and skin colour. I’ve thought this for many years. Others think so, too, and I even saw a computer generated rendering of what they think future humans will look like. Then there won’t be anymore them, only us.



what you say is true. it is an irresistible march of evolution.
the jets and rapid transport we have is going to ensure global homogenization. we will all look like mariah carey in the end.
but i won't be alive then so i do not care.

i do not treat asians i talk to in any way less than equal to me.
it's just that it is so disparaging to see that asians are conquering us from within.
a sea of inscrutable faces in a central place near where i grew up.

whatever. sorry.