Is the Red Pill Really So Bad?

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12 Dec 2018, 9:39 am

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I am Gamma, and radioactively contaminated.


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12 Dec 2018, 9:43 am

I would like an Alfa Romeo myself.....



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12 Dec 2018, 10:24 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
I would like an Alfa Romeo myself.....

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12 Dec 2018, 10:28 am

Piobaire wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I would like an Alfa Romeo myself.....

Triumph Spitfire MkIII

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Or perhaps an MGA MkII

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12 Dec 2018, 10:50 am

I think those cars took the Red Pill.....



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12 Dec 2018, 11:02 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
I think those cars took the Red Pill.....

Perhaps; they are kind of like glorified riding lawnmowers pretending to be something they're not...



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12 Dec 2018, 11:04 am

When I saw Forrest Gump, I thought it was cool that he rode in a riding lawnmower.

Even after he became a millionaire for just "being in the right place at the right time."



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12 Dec 2018, 11:18 am

And to think I was actually feeling bad for creating a post earlier that I was sick of the men on WP...



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12 Dec 2018, 11:42 am

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Red pills are guys that are aware that making improvements like looks maxing, dressing better and going to the gym use better pick up lines to pick up chicks. Acceptance that the dating game is harder for guys because they have to put in more effort and work hard to get dates.
Blue pill is a naive guy who is unaware that the dating game is rigged against and just being yourself or whatever naive advice is enough to pick up chicks. In denial that guys have to put in more effort and work harder and white knighting(being nice) is enough to get dates.


I suppose it's possible if a man is very attractive to a majority of women, has himself together, and is naturally charming, he may never have to leave "blue pill land" or question it. For him, the strategy works.

But you're correct, it's not one-size-fits all, and to the men struggling, blue pill isn't gonna get you much of anywhere.

I don't really comment on these topics much, and I didn't even know what blue vs. red meant in this context. (I've seen the Matrix, but this here refers to realizing the truths about hetero-normative mating behavior among humans.)

Problem here is you're on a website for the socially clueless. Don't listen to most of what the women here say, they're not in your shoes. As Aspies, they probably don't even know how they stand in their own shoes. As for the men getting all uppity, they should be glad they've been successful and stop getting so hostile.

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12 Dec 2018, 11:47 am

I was never hostile.

I just feel that making concessions like that found in the concept of the "Red Pill" puts men deeper in the hole.

I've seen this even in NT-type men who are in the "dating scene." They develop strategies. They develop theories. They read studies which state something like "20% of the men get 80% of the women," or something like that.

They stay single because they adhere to this crap.



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12 Dec 2018, 11:58 am

kraftiekortie:

Didn't you say in another post that you'd slept with over 30 women by the age of 29?

Cool, hats off to you, but I don't think you can empathize.



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12 Dec 2018, 12:00 pm

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Don't listen to most of what the women here say, they're not in your shoes.


I sincerely hope you see the irony in this.


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12 Dec 2018, 12:01 pm

That's true.

But I was a socially-awkward Aspie type while this happened. I did some rather unusual things----like write poems to women on the train. And I answered an ad for a woman----only for the woman to drag me into her apartment for some sex. Weird times!

I can empathize---trust me.

I felt the same way these men felt. I used to wish I could play a guitar because I thought guys with guitars got all the chicks. I almost gave up because I felt I could never learn to play a guitar.

The only way I achieved more success.....was to realize that "pushing for success" inevitably leads to failure. I had to develop a detached persona, and not make it seem like I was actively seeking chicks.



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12 Dec 2018, 12:07 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
ezbzbfcg2 wrote:
Don't listen to most of what the women here say, they're not in your shoes.


I sincerely hope you see the irony in this.


Not at all. Spell it out for me.