To all Aspie men who are angry with women.

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01 Sep 2007, 10:04 pm

juliekitty wrote:

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My dad always says about women: "If women didn't have a p-ssy, there would be a bounty on them!"

Your mom must really enjoy hearing that.

Ah he was always careful not to say it around her though. When they were still married a long time ago..

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01 Sep 2007, 10:24 pm

It's no delusion, Aridarr. There are females, though I would hesitate to call them "women", who do seem to live to do "us" dirt. We are geeks, dweebs, losers, or whatever to them, and they do work to make sure that we do not get girls. They will ostracize girls who go out with us. Some of them are "just" going along with the crowd, and some of them are reptiles.

It's a lot more accurate to say that I am angry with some women. A lot of that type evolve to be child abusers also, and my mother had an affair with a much older man (my father) when she was underage, before that was so overhyped as pedophilia, and she grew up to be a child abuser. A typical not-so-good teenage female is likely to bully other females about going out with losers, is likely to be a child abuser, and is likely to wrap herself around an older man who should know better, whose emotional growth is probably stunted making him vulnerable, plus he is old enough to hold a paying job.

There is a normal way for people to act that does not involve this kind of game-playing. I haven't seen much of that. Ironically, I have seen it happen because I was there. I have also seen the pretense when people would pretend to be normal then turn around and strike me down.

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01 Sep 2007, 10:36 pm

Women say they want honest but no games, but thats not what they (generally) practice.

Women and men have alot of work to do. It's been 30+ years since the sexual revolution and I don't see things getting any better in westtern culture.

Men and women are not equal, they are different. We should press forward with that and each sex should compliment the other.

\ But thats just the opinion of an old fashioned science fiction reader.

I might as well be reading fantasy. In my experience western women have emulated western men with the same horrible end games.

It make me wonder if it will be a well manicured nail that finally pushes the button.

Ladies do not look for strength in emulating us man.

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01 Sep 2007, 10:46 pm

If not, it will almost certainly be a well manicured nail that makes a man WANT to push the button.

One simple fact, ladies. If you want to drain a man's life force every day, you are going to have to put some back or bad things will happen. It's like a credit card. The bill comes due some day.

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01 Sep 2007, 10:51 pm

Jimbogf wrote:

juliekitty wrote:

Jimbogf wrote:

My dad always says about women: "If women didn't have a p-ssy, there would be a bounty on them!"

Your mom must really enjoy hearing that.

Ah he was always careful not to say it around her though. When they were still married a long time ago..

I'd say things like that right to my wife.
But, I think she was pretty certain I didn't
mean them. Mainly, 'twas fun to see other's
reactions. I suspect she got as much pleasure
out of shocking as I did.

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01 Sep 2007, 11:02 pm

calandale wrote:

I could see myself doing that.

Well defiantly not to that extreme of a comment( that sort of comment isn't in me)... but saying slightly unexpected things... just to get a reaction. The expected reaction is laughter...

I find I do this with my friends, as I get comfortable... whatever weird thoughts pop into my head... I just say them.

It's never vulgar... just bizarre.

It might be hard being with an Aspie actually... unless they have a very similar sense of humor to my own. They may not understand when I am joking...

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01 Sep 2007, 11:08 pm

Yes. I too would NEVER be vulgar, nor
step outside the bounds of decency, of
course. :lol:

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01 Sep 2007, 11:12 pm

Your bar of decency appears to be infinite... and you never step out of it... how amazing.

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01 Sep 2007, 11:41 pm

Pugly wrote:

Your bar of decency appears to be infinite... and you never step out of it... how amazing.

It's good to be perfect.

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02 Sep 2007, 1:58 am

Brundisium wrote:

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Whenever any of you makes the claim that all girls/women are like this, or that, you are utterly wrong.

The way that women treat you is more a reflection on yourself than on the gender itself; just as the way that men treat me says more about me than the male gender.

Sorry guys; it's not them; it's you.

Think about it; if you met an overweight, unattractive girl, you would treat her badly in comparison to a beautiful supermodel type.

These women are doing the same as you would in that situation.

If a woman rejects you, it isn't because women are unfair; it is because you don't make her happy.

That is what love is about; being with someone who makes you happy. Neither women nor men have control over who makes them happy. If someone rejects you, they are not being judgemental, or bigoted. They are just obeying their emotional reaction to you as a person. Why should anyone tolerate a romantic partner who doesn't make them happy?

That is why aspies have so much trouble in romance; they don't understand what it is that makes others happy as well as other people do.

And if a woman is unkind in her rejection of you; it could be because she has her own life and set of priorities that don't include you.

Just as you may have all the time in the world for one girl and ignore another; they are the same.

People (meaning women and men), especially in romance, tend towards behaviour that causes emotional distress to others. This doesn't mean that they are bad people, or playing games with your emotions; in most situations, they are probably just confused.

As people, none of you are socially perfect; many of you upset people without meaning to.

So-called 'neurotypicals' are no different; they make mistakes too.

Although you made a lot of sense with all this, most of this advice belongs with NT dating.

Aspie males who get frustrated with dating aren't just being ignorant a**holes, they're trying to struggle through a completely different neurological wiring and have no idea how to do it.

The fact that people like yourself think that they're being strange or ignorant just makes it worse, because there's no attempt at understanding being made and we're just being told we're "not doing it right" when every iota of effort we have is going towards trying to do everything right!

It's cyclical.

And just for the record, I've made many girls happy in my time and although I'm still looking for the one who will last, I know that I get better at it each time and will one day find someone who will not only appreciate all the effort I put into her, but understand that I'm doing my very best, even if I don't always get it right.

Nice of you to assume we're all overweight, bald losers too.

No, I am not telling you guys "that you are doing it wrong". Quite clearly, as I have already stated, you are unable to change the way you are. And I appreciate that not all Aspie men are unsuccessful with women. In fact, that was my very point...there are nice women out there who apprecciate you for your differences. And yes, I am sure you will find someone.

You are not one of the men towards whom this thread is directed. This is directed towards the kind of guy who has become so bitter that he has become completely gynaphocobic.

Thread title: To all Aspie men who are angry with women.

And no, I wasn't claiming that you were all "bald, overweight losers". I simply meant that you all (through no fault of your own) possess character traits that some women may see as flaws; these being aspects of your condition.

I am not telling those Aspie men who have become complete misogynists to change their behaviour; I am telling them that they have no reason to feel victimized; that not all women are as they perceive them to be, and that most of the women they feel rejected by didn't intend to harm them in any way.

And, if you look at my profile, you will see that I am diagnosed with Asperger's myself; I have trouble figuring people out too.

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02 Sep 2007, 2:29 am

Remnant wrote:

It's called the System Virus. The virus latches on to these empty women and changes their DNA. They tell me I'm crazy, but my so-called 'delusion' is shared by many.

Good post, Remnant. Very good post. You and I see eye to eye.

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02 Sep 2007, 3:16 am

((soaks his bones next to the computer with some really mellow and jazzy d&b that's taking him to a world above this one - wish you all could join me))

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02 Sep 2007, 3:34 am

jkrane wrote:

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That is true. I think I've experience that before but backed down... fortunately the vast majorirty of times I'll realize when this is either a joke, or what not.

It's crazy though - these said women can't go from day to day thinking 'It's my ambition to not let aspies get with people'.
F*** 'em I say. Aspergers is an amazing thing imo.

If I find myself in these positions, again, which isn't too unlikely, I think they'll have a hard time trying to break me. It wouldn't be the ideal situation but I do believe I'll be able to fend for myself in these situations and come out standing tall. tbh, most people aren't worth the effort.
Letting someone rule the way you feel is pointless.
I've got my own systematic way of thinking and I'm not going to allow some girl to ruin that.

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02 Sep 2007, 5:12 am

Aridarr wrote:

You are not one of the men towards whom this thread is directed. This is directed towards the kind of guy who has become so bitter that he has become completely gynaphocobic.

I'm bitter about everything and everyone. I don't discriminate on grounds of race, sex or religion.

I hate you all