Why do girls get to just sit around and get guys?

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19 Sep 2008, 12:02 pm

Not to mention the fact that in the context of this discussion, it would be 'sacrifice for a total stranger,' not 'sacrifice for love.'

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19 Sep 2008, 12:06 pm

LePetitPrince wrote:

I don't believe in Sacrifice in love , no one makes sacrifices for nothing in return. That would be called unconditional love and it doesn't exist among couples.

If there was no such thing, then how come there are still couples out there that, despite 20+ years of marriage, still hold fast to "till death do us part"?

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19 Sep 2008, 12:33 pm

LKL wrote:

Not to mention the fact that in the context of this discussion, it would be 'sacrifice for a total stranger,' not 'sacrifice for love.'

Exactly , why girls would 'sacrifice' the advantage of guys-initiate-rule for total stranger guys?

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19 Sep 2008, 12:34 pm

ToadOfSteel wrote:

LePetitPrince wrote:

I don't believe in Sacrifice in love , no one makes sacrifices for nothing in return. That would be called unconditional love and it doesn't exist among couples.

If there was no such thing, then how come there are still couples out there that, despite 20+ years of marriage, still hold fast to "till death do us part"?

Because there's something called mutual benefits or ....common unconditional love and common concern toward their kids , but unconditional love between a man and a woman simply doesn't exist.

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19 Sep 2008, 1:39 pm

LePetitPrince wrote:

makuranososhi wrote:

LePetitPrince wrote:

Have you ever seen a human abandoned an advantage in hand?

Not-initiating is one of the female's advantages in the dating world which make them the pickers , they won't given it up with nothing in return just because you said so.

I am quoting my post to show it again...

Answer this question protoss :Have you ever seen a human abandoned an advantage in hand with nothing in return?

Girls won't wish to inverse the rule of initiation, it won't be in their favor.

LPP - I have seen such a thing... it is called sacrifice, and it is something which does happen in love.

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I don't believe in Sacrifice in love , no one makes sacrifices for nothing in return. That would be called unconditional love and it doesn't exist among couples.

Well, first off - when you make unsubstantiated assertions of the absolute, you lessen the respect I can give your words. To amend - you believe that no one makes sacrifices for nothing in return, and you don't believe that unconditional love and romantic love are compatible. These are opinions, not truths - I've seen both, and thus cannot accept your words as fact. In love, there are often sacrifices for nothing, save for the risk of happiness. No guarantees, no promise of what is to come, only potential. To presume an exchange in such a situation is rather cynical in my view. As for unconditional love... it is rare and precious thing, fragile when taken for granted and abandoned to fate. Something I have been fortunate enough to experience from two people in my life. Sacrifice and giving are core components to a relationship built on equal footing instead of upon demands and expectations.

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19 Sep 2008, 7:22 pm

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And I can guarantee, from prior experience, that being with someone who treats you like dirt is worse than being alone.

of course, an you'd think it would be blatantly obvious, but most people see it as follows:

1. The worst possible fate is to be with a 'weirdo'
2. The second worst fate is to be alone.
3. The next worst fate is to be in an abusive relationship - preferable to being alone ('beat me, but don't leave me')
4. The best fate, while it does involve some personality criteria (see point 1), the majority of people meet them - more stringent criteria involved are 'hot girl' or 'rich guy with fancy job'

People would rather be in an abusive relationship than be alone? No wonder the world has so many problems.

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19 Sep 2008, 7:23 pm

What basis is there in doing that?

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20 Sep 2008, 7:30 am

The relationship doesn't start off as abusive. And a lot of people in abusive relationships are in denial, thinking, 's/he still loves me, it'll stop any day now, s/he promised me it would stop.'

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20 Sep 2008, 7:47 am

LePetitPrince wrote:

makuranososhi wrote:

LePetitPrince wrote:

LPP - I have seen such a thing... it is called sacrifice, and it is something which does happen in love.

M.

I don't believe in Sacrifice in love , no one makes sacrifices for nothing in return. That would be called unconditional love and it doesn't exist among couples.

And you know this because...?

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28 Sep 2008, 6:51 pm

i have AS, and i never get approached.

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29 Sep 2008, 12:58 am

ProtossX wrote:

guys can't just sit around in a bar or wherever an get tons of girls askin them to go out or dance

its laways guys who have to what is up with this crap

im sick of how easy girls have it in the dating world aspie guys its hell for us and its so pathetic im starting to not consider aspie girls have aspergers on the same scale as us guys cuz of this issue alone

its just way too easy for them to still get things going on without doing anything while if a guy does nothing we get nothing lfie aint fair at all i wish i was a girl sometimes would be so much easier to date period.

Do you think I should tell a guy about something?
He wants to know why I don't want to talk to him anymore.

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29 Sep 2008, 10:09 am

I think when people (of either gender) enter a relationship thinking it's the end all be all for them, the relationship is more prone to failure.

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29 Sep 2008, 10:48 am

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Do you think I should tell a guy about something?
He wants to know why I don't want to talk to him anymore.

Damnit BlunderWomen, life is a school, the man will never learn anything nor will you unless
you just get it over with and tell him and do not be vague about it but instead point blunt.
the fastest ways to resolve issues is to confront them, not put them off or hide from them.

Awaken You.

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29 Sep 2008, 10:50 am

Adrenaline wrote:

WonderWomen wrote:

Do you think I should tell a guy about something?
He wants to know why I don't want to talk to him anymore.

Damnit BlunderWomen, life is a school,
the man will never learn anything nor will you unless
you just get it over with and tell him.
the fastest ways to resolve issues is to confront them, not put them off or hide from them.

Awaken You.

That particular poster is a troll impersonating a more respected WP member...

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