LADY'S: What's so attractive about a jerk?

Page 6 of 6 [ 90 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6

30 Jun 2009, 10:49 pm

I guess if aspie men want a relationship, the solution to getting a woman is to be a jerk to them :wink:



MissConstrue
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 4 Feb 2008
Gender: Female
Posts: 17,052
Location: MO

30 Jun 2009, 10:51 pm

Hahaha...if they don't get slapped in the face first... :wink:


_________________
I live as I choose or I will not live at all.
~Delores O’Riordan


Saspie
Velociraptor
Velociraptor

User avatar

Joined: 14 May 2009
Age: 41
Gender: Female
Posts: 402
Location: Sydney

30 Jun 2009, 11:05 pm

SilverStar wrote:
That's funny. I hear women all the time saying how they hate jerks, so I started doing a little experiment. Yes, I am the kinda person that will tell people anything, and don't care what they think.

One day I will go up to a girl and pretend to be the "nice guy" and ask her out, and tell her how much I admire her, and pretend to be all sweet to her...all in a serious manner of course. She'll get all standoffish, weirded out, and have this "eww, get away from me" look on her face. :D

The next day I will go up to the same girl, and make fun of her, argue with her, be rude to her, and basically treat her like dirt. You know what, she actually liked it, and had a big smile on her face.


This happening to you with one women does not say anything about how women respond to jerks in general.



SilverStar
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 May 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,058
Location: Ohio, USA

30 Jun 2009, 11:49 pm

Saspie wrote:
SilverStar wrote:
That's funny. I hear women all the time saying how they hate jerks, so I started doing a little experiment. Yes, I am the kinda person that will tell people anything, and don't care what they think.

One day I will go up to a girl and pretend to be the "nice guy" and ask her out, and tell her how much I admire her, and pretend to be all sweet to her...all in a serious manner of course. She'll get all standoffish, weirded out, and have this "eww, get away from me" look on her face. :D

The next day I will go up to the same girl, and make fun of her, argue with her, be rude to her, and basically treat her like dirt. You know what, she actually liked it, and had a big smile on her face.


This happening to you with one women does not say anything about how women respond to jerks in general.


I think it was the funny, charming, and disagreeing part she liked, more that the jerky part. Anyways, I do agree with you, that not all women respond like this, but there are a lot of them out there that do. If you want to find the right person for you, I wouldn't try anything like this, because you would basically be lying to them. The girl I did this to, is someone I know from work, so it's not like I walked up to a total stranger and tried this, because I probably would get slapped then. :D



Linder1980
Tufted Titmouse
Tufted Titmouse

User avatar

Joined: 26 Jun 2009
Age: 46
Gender: Female
Posts: 46
Location: New Zealand's finest Export...currently residing in Australia

01 Jul 2009, 12:38 am

Someone once asked the actor Charlie Sheen why he paid prostitutes to have sex with him, when he had so many female admirers/groupies that would happily line up to jump into bed with him? He replied "I don't pay hookers to have sex with me, I pay them to leave afterwards". So it's not that he finds prostitutes more appealing it's just that there are no emotional expectations with them.

in my opinion, that's kind of the appeal of "jerks" as they don't emotionally attach or have emotional expectations of you like a "nice" guy might...



Ratae
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker

User avatar

Joined: 7 Dec 2008
Age: 47
Gender: Male
Posts: 63
Location: Midlands, England

01 Jul 2009, 1:17 am

During ones latter formative years (ages 16-21) "Nice guys", also called "gays" (in the pejorative sense) and "soft" by the jerks and their female followers, were seen as the negative opposite of being "one of the lads". To be a real boy, or "a proper lad" or "all right" (i.e. a "jerk" in the 'nice guys' eyes), you had to show certain qualities that were highly esteemed by the arbiters of masculinity during ones schooling years – the hard lads. To qualify, you should have all or most of the following: sporting prowess, physical strength (judged by a combination of height, bone width & muscle mass), mental toughness, a propensity for aggressive and violent behaviour, a low regard for adult approval, an abusive, bullying relationship with those males perceived to be genetically weaker (short stature, low muscle mass, feminine-looking), and an exploitative attitude towards females.

Women that rate themselves as attractive -- likewise by their peer group -- go for more masculine males: tall, broad n strong, heavy featured; typically the jerk anthropomorphic phenotype reported by nice guys, as so is often shown in popular American Teen movies. Contrary to belief women actually may prefer a femme-looking male at certain times of her cycle, but this is solely femininity of the face, not the body.

In any case regarding the validity of jerks existence, small means bad if your male and you can't really be a jerk unless your tall/big/handsome or have something going for you physically, be that robust build and facial handsomeness if you happen to be below average height.



MissConstrue
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 4 Feb 2008
Gender: Female
Posts: 17,052
Location: MO

01 Jul 2009, 1:46 am

I've always been attracted to guys more on the effeminate side....but that's just me.

The peer pressure among girls can also be just as bad as guys. Though for me, it isn't like it use to be when I was in school. Most of the girls I was around judged eachother non-stop by the way they looked and who they were dating. So in short, I'm wondering if this isn't a case of those who are more conscious about social status...I never was until I got older. Even then, I don't find that kind of life fun. The few relationships that were built on that seem like a waste of time to me.

Anyway, this was before I was diagnosed with aspergers and I was kind of raised in a family that was a bit on the odd side....mostly women. Not all were into the mainstream and both my sisters are pretty but they don't dress up or flaunt themselves like most girls and they're both NT. So I've always been sort of the outside looking on the inside kind of person. I don't know why there are girls attracted to jerks but I know not all of them are by my observations. Most men will usually go for the most attractive and flirtatious gal....even then I wonder if there is something connected to this. Not that all women who dress and flaunt themselves are into jerks but if it isn't mostly about status rather than physical attraction alone.


_________________
I live as I choose or I will not live at all.
~Delores O’Riordan


Ratae
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker

User avatar

Joined: 7 Dec 2008
Age: 47
Gender: Male
Posts: 63
Location: Midlands, England

01 Jul 2009, 3:00 am

Women do change when they get older, they have a bit more empathy for physical indifference (well i find it that way), but men don't want old cougars who's womb quality is nose diving faster than a lead shot. That only makes evolutionary sense for the guys. A women that mocked unfortunate people with her hussy friends, lost her virginity to a stud she hardly knew rather than the geek that connected, or didn't sit next to Little Joe Cripple on the school bus might end up caring for disabled people at 40; a sense of guilt and compassion for people she would've mistreated 20 years before. We see it all to often. These women would happily chop a nice guy down when they were 18-29 (reproductive peak) in favor of jerk males (more macho/masculine), yet accept the same man at say 39 for reasons other than physical.

This is all disadvantage for the late developing (nice guy-) male who doesn't blossom til past 25..even 30, cos the jerks are exclusively early-maturing, thus they gain - or should I say aren't 'denied' like the nice guys are - that valuable relationship, sexual confidence boosting experiences with women at 17, 18, 19, 20...25 (because they look and act like real grown men), and by the time they (the nice guys) are past 25, women of a similar age are starting to dry up (or established with/married to slightly older/much older male) and the younger women don't want them through their lack of experience and social oddness/awkwardness. Even if he tries through lies, women can just tell how experienced/inexperienced a man is. I don't know a late maturing male that became a jerk, all of them remain reserved and a bit passive like nice guys are, they can't fake it.



MissConstrue
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 4 Feb 2008
Gender: Female
Posts: 17,052
Location: MO

01 Jul 2009, 3:20 am

^Wow...you're way off on me.

Most guys my age are already in a relationship, I however am still single.

As for women....guys can be pretty nasty to girls in highschool and do the same kind of crap.

Also, this crap about women drying up as they get older or past the age of 25 is complete BS!! I'm 26 and still have a high sex drive....not that it's any of your business but as usual you're making blunt and general statements as if females are a stock of cows in the meat section.

Anyway, there seems to be excuses as to why men can act shallow but not women and a lot of irony in this forum.

Think I'll leave for now.


_________________
I live as I choose or I will not live at all.
~Delores O’Riordan


littlegreenleaf
Pileated woodpecker
Pileated woodpecker

User avatar

Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Age: 36
Gender: Female
Posts: 180

05 Jul 2009, 9:54 pm

I don't think I've ever found jerk-behavior attractive.