Why are a lot of women on here so hypocritical???

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12 Oct 2010, 2:38 am

If you are a person who is fundamentally driven by good intentions then others will not see your "social retardation" as a deficit but part of what makes you the character that you are, then others will see that in you.

I guess you have a point that were we not the quirky kind of characters that we are Zen_mistresses that we would probably have not had the opportunity to of had such great companions who have enriched our lives.



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12 Oct 2010, 2:56 am

True. I think being an aspie has taken me to many fascinating places that I might not otherwise have gone. :)


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12 Oct 2010, 3:48 am

Personally I'd much rather a guy who is different to these "hot" guys, whether he is socially ret*d or not. 100%.

Social retardation is only one way of putting it. Having limited social skills is another. I was trying to enforce a point to WP's resident woman haters who expect an oil painting.



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12 Oct 2010, 4:06 am

Ah I gave up on that lot awhile back. Like I once said on here, i'd love to copy and paste half the crap people say on here about women and paste it all in a great big e-mail to their mothers, sisters, aunts and grandmothers and see what their take is on their relatives opinion of their gender.

If i went around saying half the shite some people get away with on here my mother would beat the living daylights out of me :lol:



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12 Oct 2010, 5:55 am

(I know its probably a bad idea to start posting here BUT ...)

I don't understand why the men are saying this stuff and/or believe it.
It feels like school again. I hate subjecting myself for approval. Its enough to put you off dating/interacting with the opposite sex at all.

Why is sex the first thing you are talking about?
What about being friends with a woman?
What about making an alliance, to help make both your lives better?

I don't have any answers. But I'm not looking to take advantage of another person.
Oh yeah, and I'm overweight and depreciated, and I think sometimes its a deliberate choice, not to even be in that arena.

(now I'm going to go away and cower)



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12 Oct 2010, 7:03 am

RICKY5 wrote:
You have the smug act down pat. Hypergamy is real no matter how Ugly it is.
smug? sure. is it an act? nope. i am secure, optimistic, and well-loved IRL so i don't have to put on any kind of act. hating women isn't getting you very far in relationships. you made the choice to be misogynistic, and now you live with th consequences.


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12 Oct 2010, 7:20 am

Laz wrote:
Ah I gave up on that lot awhile back. Like I once said on here, i'd love to copy and paste half the crap people say on here about women and paste it all in a great big e-mail to their mothers, sisters, aunts and grandmothers and see what their take is on their relatives opinion of their gender.

If i went around saying half the shite some people get away with on here my mother would beat the living daylights out of me :lol:

Superlative idea! I wonder if Ricky5 has a 'chunky' Mum, he might get clocked with a handbag in the head if she reads his posts.

And anyway, personally I :heart: women who are curvy.



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12 Oct 2010, 9:22 am

AngelRho wrote:
I mean, if you really think about it, personality is just as superficial a trait as physical appearance.
Yes! Many should be enlightened to this. I think that what really determines if something that attracts or repulses someone as superficial or not is if their feelings would change if they looked deeper into the person or experienced them more. For instance, if any one trait that someone else feels to be attractive isn't so some time later, it's probably superficial on the former's part. If they always care about that trait, whether it be attractiveness, good dancing or what have you, then it's not a surface-only trait, ergo not superficial, at least for that person.



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12 Oct 2010, 10:02 am

AngelRho wrote:
Look, the reasons why anyone goes out with anyone else is the business of that person alone.
I agree with that to a fair extent, not entirely because someone who's attracted or unattracted to certain people for superficial reasons often not only end up making themselves less happier, but possibly those that they end up not associating with.

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But there are good reasons to pair with attractive people.

Attractive people (in general, I know there are exceptions) typically feel good about themselves and aren't weighed down (figuratively, no puns intended) with a lot of excess baggage (still no pun intended). I want someone who is faithful and isn't a b!+ch, and women of certain body types generally don't act that way.
My experience is that less-than-physically-attractive women are more forgiving about certain things that more attractive women will complain about; they have lower expectations and are less inclined to passive-aggressively expect princess treatment. I'm not sure if I'd say that "unattractive" women have better personalities overall, but I've appreciated their friendliness more as I've aged.

That said, being overweight suggests lack of discipline, along with being less appealing to look at for most people, so it's something I think people should generally try not to be.



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12 Oct 2010, 10:07 am

DemonAbyss10 wrote:
/facepalm

really though, humanity is rife of them no matter where you look. Every group has them, so its really unfair to lay all the blame on america. I really am getting sick of the american bashing everywhere, not everyone is a WBC nutjob.
Agreed. America bashing is like a way-overused joke now, and in my experience, most people who do it are arrogant and/or jealous and/or are largely ignorant of the America-related subject they're commenting on.

Anti-country bigotry is on the same plain of racism, homophobia or any other bully-type behavior in harassing a minority. Let's all just get along, okay? :-)



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12 Oct 2010, 10:08 am

Well, I think that it's only natural for us to WANT certain characteristics in our mates. It's only natural for us to crave things that we consider good, even if we don't have those qualities ourselves. It's a human thing. The problem is that these sort of wants tend to be unrealistic, and then we end up unhappy because we can't obtain them.



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12 Oct 2010, 10:09 am

hyperlexian wrote:
both men and women on WP and IRL can be pretty particular or strict about what they are willing to go for, and they should understand that being too strict decreases the potential dating pool significantly.
Strictness is neutral in itself, in my opinion; what's important is if whatever one's strict about really matters to the happiness to them and those around them.



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12 Oct 2010, 10:31 am

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I really don't get it. If someone is being picky and deliberately narrows their own choices, they are the only ones who live with the consequences.
As I've implied shortly before this, that's not necessarily the case.



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12 Oct 2010, 10:34 am

Preston wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
both men and women on WP and IRL can be pretty particular or strict about what they are willing to go for, and they should understand that being too strict decreases the potential dating pool significantly.
Strictness is neutral in itself, in my opinion; what's important is if whatever one's strict about really matters to the happiness to them and those around them.

yes, that was the point. if people are too strict, it limits their choices. then, if they complain about the lack of opportunities, they can see the reason is their strict criteria. if a person is happy being single, then that is fine for them. bbut if they complainIRL or on WP about being single, then they should revisit their criteria.


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12 Oct 2010, 10:41 am

Preston wrote:
AngelRho wrote:
I mean, if you really think about it, personality is just as superficial a trait as physical appearance.
Yes! Many should be enlightened to this. I think that what really determines if something that attracts or repulses someone as superficial or not is if their feelings would change if they looked deeper into the person or experienced them more. For instance, if any one trait that someone else feels to be attractive isn't so some time later, it's probably superficial on the former's part. If they always care about that trait, whether it be attractiveness, good dancing or what have you, then it's not a surface-only trait, ergo not superficial, at least for that person.

personality is only shallow if a person does not delve deeper into someone's deeper characteristics. you can get a good idea of a person's character by talking to them, for instance. personality is only shallow if you are observing someone from 10 feet away and never actually interacting with themm, or keeping all interactions to a surface level. judging someone's personality isn't necessarily shallow unless you are just observing them from across the room or something! as soon as you choose to have a real conversation with someone, your knowledge of their personality is no longer superficial.

appearance is superficial because it does not reflect anything about a person's true self or character. therefore judging someone's appearance is shallow, as a judgement is made without really knowing anything about him/her.


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12 Oct 2010, 11:22 am

Preston wrote:
Sallamandrina wrote:
I really don't get it. If someone is being picky and deliberately narrows their own choices, they are the only ones who live with the consequences.
As I've implied shortly before this, that's not necessarily the case.


Would you care to elaborate - I'm not sure what you're referring to?


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