04 Jun 2011, 7:00 pm
TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
guywithAS wrote:
TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
You can't expect anyone to take you seriously if you cannot handle negative feedback.
negative feedback is absolutely fine (i wrote "useful critical feedback"). actually its very helpful. the problem here is straight attacks. i know, people have "PUA" burned into their brains and can't see past it. for the good of the autism community i am going to figure out which techniques are useful and how to present them in the right way. i know how tough life is for aspies. and i'm working my ass off to do this - even though in the long term others will likely take the credit since i'll be moving onto founding a technology business unrelated to autism.
you'll see the results soon, and "useful critical feedback" at that point would be most welcome.
Don't mistake my reply as constructive criticism. (Yes, that's what it's actually called but I understand you probably find the word 'criticism' too negative.)
When I read your posts, all I hear is my whiny 4 year old. She likes to try and manipulate me to get what she wants, too. She's also quite fond of pretending I don't tell her no. My constructive criticism for you would be to wait until you've emotionally matured before you try to advise others on their inter-personal relationships.
awesome post, TeaEarlGreyHot.
04 Jun 2011, 7:04 pm
04 Jun 2011, 7:13 pm
guywithAS wrote:
TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
You can't expect anyone to take you seriously if you cannot handle negative feedback.
negative feedback is absolutely fine (i wrote "useful critical feedback"). actually its very helpful. the problem here is straight attacks. i know, people have "PUA" burned into their brains and can't see past it. for the good of the autism community i am going to figure out which techniques are useful and how to present them in the right way. i know how tough life is for aspies. and i'm working my ass off to do this - even though in the long term others will likely take the credit since i'll be moving onto founding a technology business unrelated to autism.
you'll see the results soon, and "useful critical feedback" at that point would be most welcome.
Don't you mean indirect attacks now? Now now were still waiting to see your Virginia Satir and Fritz Perls impersonations as we seen too of much of your Milton Erickson impersonation! Then again Death Eaters always back away from fights with Aurors. Which is the real reason why your avoiding going one on one with me!!
04 Jun 2011, 7:27 pm
guywithAS wrote:
RainingRoses wrote:
That sounds fair to me, actually. No one is ever required to respond to a post -- positive or negative. But, the elephant in the room is the fact that "the people who are positive or are providing useful critical feedback" are pretty few and far between, right? I mean, in general, the response to this body of ideas has been OVERWHELMINGLY negative -- if not outright hostile. I have to believe you when you say your goal is to help people with AS learn how to handle social situations better -- or something along those lines. The fact is, though, that just about everyone here (the majority of whom are members of your target audience, I assume) has recoiled in horror at most of these ideas. How does that influence your thinking on this? If this is truly an AS panacea -- the only solution, I think you called it -- why do you suppose so many folks are responding so negatively toward it? You've pointed out multiple times that you have AS. Well, you're not the only one. Don't you think at least a few of us would recognize a good thing when it came along???
i'm glad you see the gravity of the problem and how what i'm doing here is very difficult. actually this community isn't my target audience. my target audience will be the professionals who treat everyone here. but they charge $225-$300/hr to talk to and i don't learn much from them!
see, the truth is that this stuff works. not just works a little, it actually SOLVES the social issues for aspergers. it strikes right at the heart of the aspergers problem.
i know this is true because it happened for me personally. and i'm possibly the only person in the world who has studied intensive game AND has intensively delved into the aspergers community. i've spent time with some of hte top autism therapists in the world and learned very little.
so why do i endure this? because i'm right. this isn't an ambiguous thing. its a binary thing. there IS a solution to the social problems for autism. and it can be broadened to help EVERYONE on the autism spectrum. i am convinced this will affect hundreds of millions of lives. no joke.
the main problem is how to present it in the right way. thats the key problem. and i'm going to solve it because this is too important.
fortunately today i connected some key pieces together, and i'll keep working at it until this is clear for everyone. then i'll go away, and make an internet business unrelated to autism and not bother anyone here anymore
I'm afraid that your reply didn't come within even a hundred miles of answering my question(s). In sum, I asked you how our overwhelmingly negative response to your ideas might influence your thinking. You asked yourself, "so why do [you] endure this?" and then you self-servingly told us.
I'd ask you -- somehow, in whatever way you can -- to give us a simple demonstration of your concern for those with AS and that you're actually listening, here. If you can't do that, then maybe you could explain why you're posting this in the first place ... and getting everyone all riled up? So that we learn how to return phone calls to our dads and be pleasant and forgiving towards bee keepers? Please. I hope whatever "revelations" are forthcoming are more interesting than that. Will they be?
I really want to know how we could be so far apart on this. You claim that "the truth is that this stuff works. not just works a little, it actually SOLVES the social issues for aspergers." While I don't see that you're even 1% of the way toward a "solution." Again, why the disparity?
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04 Jun 2011, 9:03 pm
hyperlexian wrote:
beekeeper
I don't know why I find this SO funny! I LMAO every time I read "beekeeper" in this thread. How ridiculous! Once we get the final version of whatever it is guywithAS is cooking up, one of you cute aspie girls should go try to seduce a beekeeper!
04 Jun 2011, 9:07 pm
RainingRoses wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
beekeeper
I don't know why I find this SO funny! I LMAO every time I read "beekeeper" in this thread. How ridiculous! Once we get the final version of whatever it is guywithAS is cooking up, one of you cute aspie girls should go try to seduce a beekeeper! I have a ex girlfriend who went off and married a beekeeper
Whenever she comes to visit she brings Manuka honey, mm its really good too!
04 Jun 2011, 9:13 pm
hyperlexian wrote:
nostromo wrote:
Creepy and quite disturbing. Disrespectful, distasteful. And full of anger underneath it. I hate that stuff.
I believe that way of thinking comes from alienation and disconnectedness from other people.
Are you implying the OP is like that, or will be taught to think like that?
I believe that way of thinking comes from alienation and disconnectedness from other people.
Are you implying the OP is like that, or will be taught to think like that?
the OP thinks that these typs of techniques can be applied to other kinds of social situations (like the maid or beekeeper) and somehow lead to emotional growth and even remove a lot of the aspieness from the aspie, so to speak.
There a presupposition in NLP that best sums up that type of behaviour hun
Modeling successful performance leads to excellence.
Modelling behaviour from an idiot only leads to being an excellence & successful idiot!! !
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