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24 Aug 2011, 1:32 pm

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I think that the most important thing is to learn to love yourself first because even if you are not in a relationship with a woman, you are still in an inner relationship with yourself.

The greatest love of all is learning to love yourself first.


But if you love yourself above all others, doesn't that open the door to infidelity, meaningless relationships, and the like? Because loving yourself is the very definition of narcissism...


No. True narcissists actually don't love themselves at all (regardless of the myth of Narcissus). That's why they treat others so poorly, they're looking for an unending supply of "something" (love, support, validation, etc.) that will fill up the void in their spirits.

If you truly love yourself, you have the integrity and courage to conduct yourself with utmost respect, both for yourself and in regard to others. So, no meaningless relationships (sometimes no relationships at all), no infidelity, etc.

At least in the abstract.



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24 Aug 2011, 1:41 pm

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Calm down. Take a deep breath. Women are evil at times. Look at all the women who have hurt you before, identify why they did it, and be wary of them in the future. A lot of times I have guy friends who keep getting in serious trouble because of the women they're with, but when push comes to shove they LIKE those types of women.


Yeah, I must LIKE women who treat me like crap. That's it....

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Women are not a broad, generalized category. Believe it or not they're just like everyone else. And out there are the women who don't want to be deceived or abandoned again just like you. And we've all just got to stumble around a bit before we trip over the right feet for us.


If there's really some who are like that, how come I haven't met them yet? It's just a coincidence I've only met the bad ones?

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So hit the gym. Go out with good friends. Rebound around a bit. And then emerge from this a 100% honest-to-yourself individual who is ready to be in a relationship and then see what the world has to offer.


No good friends to go out with.



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24 Aug 2011, 1:43 pm

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What has a good attitude gotten me in the past? nowhere. All the years growing up in my teens being optimistic and hopeful that people would accept me and be real friends with me if I dressed like them, listened to the same music, and mimicked their behavior.

IT GOT ME NOWHERE

People still treated me like sh**, mocked me, shunned me, used me.

Now look were I'm at now

Just turned 25, poor, ugly, uneducated, no friends, no GFs, and I'm a hermit that's been locked up in his house for the better part of the last 4 years.

My social life revolves around random people on message boards and video game chats. For all the sh** I've put up with I deserve to have a bad attitude.


Teenagers aren't know to be the nicest people in the world.

Adults aren't either when it comes to me


No one cares if you're ugly as far as friends go and many people won't care if you're a bit slow.

If this isn't a bald face lie I don't know what is. If people didn't care about that stuff, I would have dates and friends, I wouldn't get talked about/made fun of, and people wouldn't treat me like an inferior ret*d bum who can do anything right.





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18 Sep 2011, 2:26 am

A typical aspie male is the poster child of what nearly all (younger) women don't want. Yes, rejections are painful, I've had my share.

I'm now 30 and I've resigned myself into accepting a perpetual life being single. I don't even attempt to hit on girls anymore. Sure, it'll be nice to interact with a girl you're interested in, but face reality (see my 1st paragraph). Strangely, I don't feel lonely.

Being constantly overlooked and seeing girls go for smooth talking small-brained a**holes was making me bitter and misogynistic. I'm now apathetic in seeking a relationship and as a result I'm happy and at peace. I suggest you become stoic and accept the reality of what AS is on a man. Have your soulmate find you, rather than you going through all the rejections.

As for appeasing our ever annoying 'lil friend that us men have, go to bars and pick up the wild drunk chick, or find a chemically dependent girl were you can easily negotiate a "favor", or go to "massage" parlor, or call one of those "special" outcall ads.. Just don't be stupid enough to fall in love with any of these women!! ! Just saying...

Women that are understanding and tolerant of AS symptoms are too few and too far in between. Maybe the pretty girl who likes you and accepts you for who you are is not white or blond, as I seen a post from you that you wouldn't date a non-white girl. Your limiting yourself man!

Being single is mandatory for many aspies. It sucks, but it's reality. Grow to accept it. After all we're in a wrong planet full of prejudiced NTs.

Those women that have rejected you are not worth becoming resentful and misogynistic...


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18 Sep 2011, 4:39 am

If you've got no friends you should probably concentrate on fixing that first.



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18 Sep 2011, 12:42 pm

I've been suicidal before (when I was 8), and been as upset before, but never suicidal again. This is because I know that the pain always passes, and that I'll do any mental gymnastics to keep myself alive and out of pain if I just hang in there long enough.

I don't want to say that you should kill yourself, but it seems to me that if you are in some sort of situation that you are pretty certain cannot get better, then living a miserable life is worse than not having one.

People should be nice to suicidal people. They can't think straight and say mean things.

I sometimes feel misogynistic. It is hard not to when it seems like that half of the human race hates you for what you are. But they have no obligation to find me attractive. It is my fault that I am hurt by them.



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18 Sep 2011, 12:52 pm

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If you've got no friends you should probably concentrate on fixing that first.


Believe it or not, I actually agree with this....just take out the word "first." I should only concentrate on finding friends because I will NEVER EVER get a girlfriend.



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18 Sep 2011, 1:07 pm

You do realize that a girlfriend...IS a friend, yes? And the best girlfriends come from...you guessed it...friends!


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18 Sep 2011, 1:38 pm

A long time ago, a very good friend said to me, "a hungry man makes a poor shopper" - she then dumped me.

I don't imagine I'll ever meet a woman, either as a friend or as a lover, who understands me and accepts me entirely for who I am, rather than for what she'd like to mould me into or get from me. There are times when I'm fairly reconciled to that and other times when I despair to the pit of my soul - especially when I take a chance and open up to a woman as a friend only for her to take great delight in trampling me and then have the damn cheek to tell me I brought it upon myself.

Most women I encounter on any kind of emotional level are self-seeking, domineering and all too quick to punish every man they meet for the actions of some a***hole they tangled with years ago. There seems to be a prevailing view that it's quite acceptable for a woman to inflict suffering upon a man whilst hiding behind the credenda that women are the "weaker" sex and that all men are "bastards" regardless of who they are - which we all know is a load of bollocks - all people can be bastards.

I don't consider myself a misogynist as much as a realist in the light of my experience of life. I have plenty of female friends but I no longer let them anywhere near my heart.


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18 Sep 2011, 3:53 pm

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Calm down. Take a deep breath. Women are evil at times. Look at all the women who have hurt you before, identify why they did it, and be wary of them in the future. A lot of times I have guy friends who keep getting in serious trouble because of the women they're with, but when push comes to shove they LIKE those types of women.


Yeah, I must LIKE women who treat me like crap. That's it....

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Women are not a broad, generalized category. Believe it or not they're just like everyone else. And out there are the women who don't want to be deceived or abandoned again just like you. And we've all just got to stumble around a bit before we trip over the right feet for us.


If there's really some who are like that, how come I haven't met them yet? It's just a coincidence I've only met the bad ones?

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So hit the gym. Go out with good friends. Rebound around a bit. And then emerge from this a 100% honest-to-yourself individual who is ready to be in a relationship and then see what the world has to offer.


No good friends to go out with.


There are women out there who's only experience is with abusive violent men, and if i am to follow your logic, then you yourself must be an abusive violent man as well. Unless you figured it is only the female group who are part of a hive mind?

You've dug yourself a hole, and seem determined to stay there.
No? You don't? You said no one seemed to care whether or not you were still around. Yet plenty of people were doing their best to give you advice and you ignored that fact when you said it. Which seems to show that you only willing to see what you want to see.You don't have to go ˝mad˝ in order to get such pattern of thought, you can have it by simply being a ˝nice guy˝.

I had this major depression in my teens, some of the thoughts that made me miserable has caused this underlying fear in me of being perceived as ˝of less worth˝. I know that this world has a sort of ˝caste˝ separating beautiful, normal and ugly people. And i can feel that faint feeling of aggression towards people who are beautiful, because it's like society says they can think less of me because I'm not as pretty. But that train of thought is MY f*****g PROBLEM! Not theirs.



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19 Sep 2011, 12:03 am

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A typical aspie male is the poster child of what nearly all (younger) women don't want. Yes, rejections are painful, I've had my share.

I'm now 30 and I've resigned myself into accepting a perpetual life being single. I don't even attempt to hit on girls anymore. Sure, it'll be nice to interact with a girl you're interested in, but face reality (see my 1st paragraph). Strangely, I don't feel lonely.

Being constantly overlooked and seeing girls go for smooth talking small-brained a**holes was making me bitter and misogynistic. I'm now apathetic in seeking a relationship and as a result I'm happy and at peace. I suggest you become stoic and accept the reality of what AS is on a man. Have your soulmate find you, rather than you going through all the rejections.

Women that are understanding and tolerant of AS symptoms are too few and too far in between. Maybe the pretty girl who likes you and accepts you for who you are is not white or blond, as I seen a post from you that you wouldn't date a non-white girl. Your limiting yourself man!

Being single is mandatory for many aspies. It sucks, but it's reality. Grow to accept it. After all we're in a wrong planet full of prejudiced NTs.

Those women that have rejected you are not worth becoming resentful and misogynistic...


I am nearly at this stage. I turn 30 next year. And I have to pretty much accept that I never will have a girlfriend. AS men just don't press their buttons. Just find something more useful to dedicate my life to pursuing.



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19 Sep 2011, 12:22 am

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A typical aspie male is the poster child of what nearly all (younger) women don't want. Yes, rejections are painful, I've had my share.

I'm now 30 and I've resigned myself into accepting a perpetual life being single. I don't even attempt to hit on girls anymore. Sure, it'll be nice to interact with a girl you're interested in, but face reality (see my 1st paragraph). Strangely, I don't feel lonely.

Being constantly overlooked and seeing girls go for smooth talking small-brained a**holes was making me bitter and misogynistic. I'm now apathetic in seeking a relationship and as a result I'm happy and at peace. I suggest you become stoic and accept the reality of what AS is on a man. Have your soulmate find you, rather than you going through all the rejections.

Women that are understanding and tolerant of AS symptoms are too few and too far in between. Maybe the pretty girl who likes you and accepts you for who you are is not white
or blond, as I seen a post from you that you wouldn't date a non-white girl. Your limiting yourself man!

Being single is mandatory for many aspies. It sucks, but it's reality. Grow to accept it. After all we're in a wrong planet full of prejudiced NTs.

Those women that have rejected you are not worth becoming resentful and misogynistic...


I am nearly at this stage. I turn 30 next year. And I have to pretty much accept that I never will have a girlfriend. AS men just don't press their buttons. Just find something more useful to dedicate my life to pursuing.


Very difficult thing to accept though, I still can't even at my age. The important thing is to learn to enjoy the times you actually do have. Personally, I got "rejected" last night by a woman who actually hit on me first, and I spent the day with a wonderful girl who could never be my girlfriend - and it was totally awesome! I'm not kidding. It's all a matter of your perspective.

Learn to cherish the little things...



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19 Sep 2011, 2:37 am

Grisha wrote:
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A typical aspie male is the poster child of what nearly all (younger) women don't want. Yes, rejections are painful, I've had my share.

I'm now 30 and I've resigned myself into accepting a perpetual life being single. I don't even attempt to hit on girls anymore. Sure, it'll be nice to interact with a girl you're interested in, but face reality (see my 1st paragraph). Strangely, I don't feel lonely.

Being constantly overlooked and seeing girls go for smooth talking small-brained a**holes was making me bitter and misogynistic. I'm now apathetic in seeking a relationship and as a result I'm happy and at peace. I suggest you become stoic and accept the reality of what AS is on a man. Have your soulmate find you, rather than you going through all the rejections.

Women that are understanding and tolerant of AS symptoms are too few and too far in between. Maybe the pretty girl who likes you and accepts you for who you are is not white
or blond, as I seen a post from you that you wouldn't date a non-white girl. Your limiting yourself man!

Being single is mandatory for many aspies. It sucks, but it's reality. Grow to accept it. After all we're in a wrong planet full of prejudiced NTs.

Those women that have rejected you are not worth becoming resentful and misogynistic...


I am nearly at this stage. I turn 30 next year. And I have to pretty much accept that I never will have a girlfriend. AS men just don't press their buttons. Just find something more useful to dedicate my life to pursuing.


Very difficult thing to accept though, I still can't even at my age. The important thing is to learn to enjoy the times you actually do have. Personally, I got "rejected" last night by a woman who actually hit on me first, and I spent the day with a wonderful girl who could never be my girlfriend - and it was totally awesome! I'm not kidding. It's all a matter of your perspective.

Learn to cherish the little things...


Wait...enjoy being friendzoned and rejected? 8O What?

Now that is something very difficult to accept.



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19 Sep 2011, 7:07 am

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A typical aspie male is the poster child of what nearly all (younger) women don't want. Yes, rejections are painful, I've had my share.

I'm now 30 and I've resigned myself into accepting a perpetual life being single. I don't even attempt to hit on girls anymore. Sure, it'll be nice to interact with a girl you're interested in, but face reality (see my 1st paragraph). Strangely, I don't feel lonely.

Being constantly overlooked and seeing girls go for smooth talking small-brained a**holes was making me bitter and misogynistic. I'm now apathetic in seeking a relationship and as a result I'm happy and at peace. I suggest you become stoic and accept the reality of what AS is on a man. Have your soulmate find you, rather than you going through all the rejections.

Women that are understanding and tolerant of AS symptoms are too few and too far in
between. Maybe the pretty girl who likes you and accepts you for who you are is not white
or blond, as I seen a post from you that you wouldn't date a non-white girl. Your limiting yourself man!

Being single is mandatory for many aspies. It sucks, but it's reality. Grow to accept it. After all we're in a wrong planet full of prejudiced NTs.

Those women that have rejected you are not worth becoming resentful and misogynistic...


I am nearly at this stage. I turn 30 next year. And I have to pretty much accept that I never will have a girlfriend. AS men just don't press their buttons. Just find something more useful to dedicate my life to pursuing.


Very difficult thing to accept though, I still can't even at my age. The important thing is to
learn to enjoy the times you actually do have. Personally, I got "rejected" last night by a woman who actually hit on me first, and I spent the day with a wonderful girl who could never be my girlfriend - and it was totally awesome! I'm not kidding. It's all a matter of your perspective.

Learn to cherish the little things...


Wait...enjoy being friendzoned and rejected? 8O What?

Now that is something very difficult to accept.


I never said it was easy, but it's possible - you only become upset because some imaginary scenario in your head didn't play out, focus on the "now": what actually happened - I like to think about how I felt when I was close to someone I was attracted to, even if it didn't last (for example). Now instead of cringing, I sigh...



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19 Sep 2011, 9:17 am

Grisha wrote:
Adam82 wrote:
Grisha wrote:
Adam82 wrote:
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A typical aspie male is the poster child of what nearly all (younger) women don't want. Yes, rejections are painful, I've had my share.

I'm now 30 and I've resigned myself into accepting a perpetual life being single. I don't even attempt to hit on girls anymore. Sure, it'll be nice to interact with a girl you're interested in, but face reality (see my 1st paragraph). Strangely, I don't feel lonely.

Being constantly overlooked and seeing girls go for smooth talking small-brained a**holes was making me bitter and misogynistic. I'm now apathetic in seeking a relationship and as a result I'm happy and at peace. I suggest you become stoic and accept the reality of what AS is on a man. Have your soulmate find you, rather than you going through all the rejections.

Women that are understanding and tolerant of AS symptoms are too few and too far in
between. Maybe the pretty girl who likes you and accepts you for who you are is not white
or blond, as I seen a post from you that you wouldn't date a non-white girl. Your limiting yourself man!

Being single is mandatory for many aspies. It sucks, but it's reality. Grow to accept it. After all we're in a wrong planet full of prejudiced NTs.

Those women that have rejected you are not worth becoming resentful and misogynistic...


I am nearly at this stage. I turn 30 next year. And I have to pretty much accept that I never will have a girlfriend. AS men just don't press their buttons. Just find something more useful to dedicate my life to pursuing.


Very difficult thing to accept though, I still can't even at my age. The important thing is to
learn to enjoy the times you actually do have. Personally, I got "rejected" last night by a woman who actually hit on me first, and I spent the day with a wonderful girl who could never be my girlfriend - and it was totally awesome! I'm not kidding. It's all a matter of your perspective.

Learn to cherish the little things...


Wait...enjoy being friendzoned and rejected? 8O What?

Now that is something very difficult to accept.


I never said it was easy, but it's possible - you only become upset because some imaginary scenario in your head didn't play out, focus on the "now": what actually happened - I like to think about how I felt when I was close to someone I was attracted to, even if it didn't last (for example). Now instead of cringing, I sigh...


When you accept "nothing" as the acceptable baseline, anything is considered good.

In other words, when you expect nothing, anything is a godsend.



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19 Sep 2011, 3:48 pm

swbluto wrote:
Grisha wrote:
Adam82 wrote:
Grisha wrote:
Adam82 wrote:
AS_Citizen_43275-B wrote:
A typical aspie male is the poster child of what nearly all (younger) women don't want. Yes, rejections are painful, I've had my share.

I'm now 30 and I've resigned myself into accepting a perpetual life being single. I don't even attempt to hit on girls anymore. Sure, it'll be nice to interact with a girl you're interested in, but face reality (see my 1st paragraph). Strangely, I don't feel lonely.

Being constantly overlooked and seeing girls go for smooth talking small-brained a**holes was making me bitter and misogynistic. I'm now apathetic in seeking a relationship and as a result I'm happy and at peace. I suggest you become stoic and accept the reality of what AS is on a man. Have your soulmate find you, rather than you going through all the rejections.

Women that are understanding and tolerant of AS symptoms are too few and too far in
between. Maybe the pretty girl who likes you and accepts you for who you are is not white
or blond, as I seen a post from you that you wouldn't date a non-white girl. Your limiting yourself man!

Being single is mandatory for many aspies. It sucks, but it's reality. Grow to accept it. After all we're in a wrong planet full of prejudiced NTs.

Those women that have rejected you are not worth becoming resentful and misogynistic...


I am nearly at this stage. I turn 30 next year. And I have to pretty much accept that I never will have a girlfriend. AS men just don't press their buttons. Just find something more useful to dedicate my life to pursuing.


Very difficult thing to accept though, I still can't even at my age. The important thing is to
learn to enjoy the times you actually do have. Personally, I got "rejected" last night by a woman who actually hit on me first, and I spent the day with a wonderful girl who could never be my girlfriend - and it was totally awesome! I'm not kidding. It's all a matter of your perspective.

Learn to cherish the little things...


Wait...enjoy being friendzoned and rejected? 8O What?

Now that is something very difficult to accept.


I never said it was easy, but it's possible - you only become upset because some imaginary scenario in your head didn't play out, focus on the "now": what actually happened - I like to think about how I felt when I was close to someone I was attracted to, even if it didn't last (for example). Now instead of cringing, I sigh...


When you accept "nothing" as the acceptable baseline, anything is considered good.


EXACTLY. Very well put. I think what Grisha is trying to get at is exactly this.