Do dateless men have a right to be picky?
Yeah, I was talking about the
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I saw some people talk about being too selective or not selective enough. I'm neither of these. My method of picking dates is called "anti-selective". Selectiveness implies you're trying to find the most attractive (in terms of face and weight) person. My anti-selective method is about finding the least attractive person. It's based on pure mathematical logic: a girl's looks and my chances with her are inversely related, and the relationship is not necessarily linear. Simply put, as a girl's looks go up, my chances with her plummet. So to solve that problem, the anti-selective method was born, and will deliver the aspie mankind from loneliness.
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I think we all tend to view selection differently. Some regard it as going for attractive people. My own personal definition of myself being selective is that I will try and go for someone who is as compatible to me as possible by way of personality, regardless of how they look. Personality compatibility is of extreme importance to me, it never used to be but it is now. And I think I've found him, my new boyfriend is a great catch, one in a million and I'm with him
Aspie1, if this anti-selective theory you have works for you then great. But I don't honestly feel myself that being an aspie is an unattractive quality (if this is what you mean, if not nevermind and just let me ramble). I am happy to be one and my boyfriend really doesn't mind either. If he would rather be dating an NT, he would but is he? No. This is the way I look at it. He also seeks people that he gets on with like I do, and that looks generally tend to come second. Looks really are not that important. If someone is ugly/beautiful on the outside, this can alter drastically if you like what is on the inside I think.
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You don't like fat girls because they don't turn you on, that's that.
Don't even bother mentioning anything about genetic makeup means you're attracted to healthy people, because in the olden days fat women were seen as beautiful and well nourished.
A lot of it is about society ideals, admit it.
I agree. Back in the day most men would look for a good sturdy girl. And you can't get sturdy from a skinny string bean. And haven't you heard the term that used back in the day "breeder hips".
I agree both with Hale Bopp and Sweetpraline.
I'm actually one of those guys, I dunno if they are many, at least among Aspie guys anyway, who prefers 'curvy' girls to skinny ones, in curvy I am not meaning morbidly obese, but average to slightly overweight, you know girls who have curves instead of ideal in the media of slender, if not underweight women. Women are supposed to have more body fat than guys for bearing children and staying healthy.
No, their unattractive obesity was overlooked because they were wealthy. In the olden days, food was expensive, and thus being fat was a sign that you were wealthy and/or powerful. This is much like how today some young women will go for an old man because he is rich. It was not the fat that was attractive, it was the wealth it signified. And today food is cheap and plentiful, so being fat no longer signifies wealth, hence the change in attitude.
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I do not think anyone is complaining about average to slightly overweight women. If they are, they should be smacked -- who cares about only slightly overweight? It would hardly be noticed. I am fairly sure the complaints are directed at significantly overweight women.
Here is an interesting quote from Encyclopedia Britannica:
-- Encyclopedia Britannica 2004
Refusing to date significantly overweight women is totally justifiable and reasonable. But don't be mean or insulting about it.
Yeah, I was talking about the
Why would you have to forgive the victims of rape? They didn't deserve to get raped.
I feel I do not have the right to be particularly picky. This coming from a guy who is considered handsome IRL.
I am firstly my personality is pretty weird, secondly I am socially inept, thirdly while I am a university student, I am living on disability benefits for the time being and have no car. The only kind of work I can get is volunteer work.
The only saving grace I have is that I am a generally pretty nice person, who is very respectful of people so long as they have good character, I am very judgmental with people because of character not appearance. If I had the choice between a nice, pleasant significantly overweight woman and a slim but horrible one, I would chose the former.
No, You looked at pornographic pictures from those times and protrayal of nude women in art, they were on the big side, they would be considered 'fat' by the standards of today's media.
No, it was still admiration of wealth, not of obesity.
And the admiration of wealth continues today. Look at today's porn, frex in Playboy magazine. They certainly do not look poor. Those women are often depicted wearing expensive underwear and/or jewellry, and often in an lavish/wealthy/expensive house or location.
I have provided an explanation for the change in attitude regarding obesity -- food is no longer expensive; obesity no longer signifies wealth. What is your explanation for the change in attitude? You have none!
That is a useless thing to say because in real life, there are many more than only those 2 choices.
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Yes this is true. Which is why if you are very lonely, and looking for a relationship, you should go out with someone regardless of what they look like (at least once). If you really like someone they will end up looking good to you and if you dislike them they will look ugly.
So you like it when women get raped do you? If those are your fantasies I suggest you keep them to yourself as rape is a very brutal and distressing thing for anyone, man or woman, to go through. Plus its a very touching and sensitive subject for myself, but then I'm quite strong. Most people would be offended by remarks such as this. Be very careful what you say in future, this is going too far by saying you feel malicious pleasure when you hear of a woman being raped.
Plus if you would actually read what I put as opposed to trying to read something that isn't there, you may understand what I was saying. Who said you looked bad? I never said anyone looked bad, I was talking about natural selection, it goes on in many species, including humans. How was that in any way against you? I'm sure you are good looking and intelligent. However, after what I have just read from you, I would not describe what you put as intelligent, but stupid. Oh and for your information, its not just SOME women who treat men like this, men do it too. Wake up Litigious and stop causing trouble with remarks like this. No one deserves to get raped, end of discussion. I am enraged that such a comment was made.
I second Fiz's comment. I'm disappointed that someone would support such an act for no other reason than bitterness and spite.
Yes this is true. Which is why if you are very lonely, and looking for a relationship, you should go out with someone regardless of what they look like (at least once). If you really like someone they will end up looking good to you and if you dislike them they will look ugly.
You can't make yourself physically attracted to someone. There has to be something there in the first place. Otherwise at best you're going to become friends, not mates.
Why would you have to forgive the victims of rape? They didn't deserve to get raped.
You haven't read enough of the thread.
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Rises as gladly in the single tree
As in the whole orchards resonant with bees."
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Absolutely, even two things are wrong with me:
1) I suffer from Asperger's syndrome.
2) I have been treated unjustly and cruelly litterally a thosand times from stupid NT jerks, a great deal of them beautiful, heartless, braindead, ego tripped arrogant b*****s.
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