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But what would be the genesis of the change? Obviously people on a message board telling him he needs to be proactive isn't making any difference. Then what will? What is a real, tangible cause that will bring about transformation in a person? I suggested medication. Changing chemicals in your brain can lead to different internal and external results.

People who sustain traumatic brain injuries often change into completely different people (usually much more irritable and violent).* What could be the opposite of that? Hmmm....

*Common long-term symptoms of moderate to severe TBI are changes in appropriate social behavior, deficits in social judgment, and cognitive changes, especially problems with sustained attention, processing speed, and executive functioning. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traumatic_brain_injury

how old are you? the rates of virginity go down as people get older.

if you have come to terms with the fact you think you will die a virgin, that's great as i am sure that is a therapeutic approach to your situation (though seeing yourself as a "loser" doesn't exactly seem healthy). but that's not to say every aspie is in the same situation or that they should just give up. i would never advise anyone to give up if they want to keep trying.

I'm 27.


I am not advising him to give up! I would never tell someone to stop trying to achieve their dream! If it's really that important to him nothing will keep him from trying, over and over again no matter how often and badly he fails. But, even if he keeps trying until the day he dies, if he never succeeds it must be concluded as a failure. And if his whole life was devoted to this one endeavor, then an appropriate label for him would be a "loser". This is a logical conclusion, correct?

I don't care about getting laid, I think causal sex is absolutely wrong and sinful. I don't plan on having sex unless I'm married to a woman that I love (however unlikely that is). I've said that on this site numerous times, so let's get that out of the way.

Regardless of what you say, natural selection does play a part in the mating process. I'm not even a beta. I'm on one of the lowest levels of functioning. Have you seen how I've described myself? With how pathetic and inferior I am, they're no way I'm able to adapt, survive, and compete with omegas, let alone the other higher levels. It's obvious to see with how my life is playing out

I am loser, in every sense of the word.

Really? We're going to keep doing this? Ok

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i would hope that his whole life is not devoted to that endeavour. i would possibly characterise such a person with a singleminded goal (to the exclusion of all other goals) as a person who is irrational and obsessive, but not a "loser"... i don't think anyone has only one goal in life though.

One thing: Omega is the lowest male (as I understand it). http://socialpathology.blogspot.com/201 ... -male.html

Well again I must say I am the embodiment of a person you don't believe exists. I will die alone because I will not tolerate a distraction to my ambition. I have one goal in life*, and in all likelihood I will never succeed. But maybe I will. Maybe drugs will help.

*I don't want to get into this personally, but an example would be someone wanting to play for the NBA so badly he forsakes any other pleasures or goals in life in pursuit - even sacrificing personal happiness. The only problem - he's a dwarf. Insane? Yes. But this is how strong some of us feel, and the life we must live.

Why not just give up. You see people like me, (who are pathetic, losers, and inferior burdens upon people who clearly better) should just realize there is no hope for dating/friends, having a decent life relative to normal people.

They should just face fact instead of believing the optimistic BS that people (here, and other places) spout. "keep looking you'll find someone" "there's someone for everyone" "you're not trying hard enough" "keep believing" all lies.

Face the truth and spend your energy on something that possible. It'll also save you the heartbreak of always coming up short. (I.E. getting made fun of and disrespected, getting rejected, and feeling left out)

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I'm assuming there is no choice. I was absolutely sure of my eventual success earlier in life, then absolutely sure of my perpetual failure, and am now unsure of what will happen in the future. All throughout these times, even when I was certain I would never make any progress, I kept trying. Not because I was a masochist, but merely because the ambition was too important to ever stop attempting.

If you CAN give up, maybe you should. It would be easier. But as long as the desire exists you'll probably never be able to stop trying. Who knows whether the effort will ever bear fruit or not?

What about the low functioning? Who would want to date or marry someone like me huh? At any age. See you didn't factor them in as part of your optimistic crap. Their is no hope for someone like. I'm destined to be alone, with no friends/GF/wife, because of how inadequate I am.

I want YOU tell me what good am I to a woman? I'm not good to look at. I'm poor, slow, uneducated, can barely bathe and take care of myself. This is while living at home, imagine me trying try to provide for myself and a woman on my own. (lol at the thought)

I don't have any skills/talents that are impressive.

I lack intelligence and knowledge on most "important" things, we probably wouldn't have anything to talk about. I don't have charisma and/or the ability to make people laugh. I don't have what you call mental toughness/balls/being hard or whatever so I don't how much of a protector I'd be.

And since I hear from most of you on here that sex one of if not the most important thing in a relationship for a majority of women, that's another strike for me considering I'm celibate.

So why would a woman go out with me. I want you to tell me why I should have hope. Better yet, just give me an a example of one quality I have that's attractive to a woman. I'll be waiting.

no, i'm done telling you what you can do to improve your situation, and i am done listing your positive qualities. if you didn't listen the first 5 times i told you, you're not going to listen now. your choice is: change, or live with your situation. it's up to you which one you would rather do. i don't have to live your life so i'm not going to hold your hand and try to talk you through it anymore.

Well if you feel that why bother posting in any of my threads. And you've never listed anything positive qualities about me becuase it's impossible. I lack any traits that would make me dateable. BTW, I don't need anyone to hold my hand/be patronized or whatever you called yourself doing.

I'm not a child, I am a grown ass man, and I don't need to be protected from the truth.

There's no need to be mean.

go back and read my posts in your threads (and other threads you have posted in) and you will see the things i have said to you. it makes me quite irate that you don't even remember that i have said so many nice things to you. fine if you don't want to believe it, but to even ignore/forget that i've said it is really insulting.

was that mean? i am telling him that i am done with trying to fix his problems if he will not listen (he ignores the positives, especially). i've spent many hours of my time trying to support him and he throws it back in my face again and again. you've been posting on the board for a very short period of time so i don't really think you're aware of how much i (and other members) have tried to help him. please do not judge what you are not aware of.