The problem with letting a woman know you care about looks

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Unless a woman is proud to look like a big, strong man.

"Your own head" you're valuing your own perspective over all others and evidence
the part you condemned an entire region? you mean the part you used the "starving children in africa, eat your greens" argument that since women have it better here than there we should stop being critical of inequality.
I don't want you to be the bad guy, I want you to stop being defensive and feeling like men are being attacked when someone points out a difficulty women face. I want you to listen and participate in discussion instead of posting stupid images and pontificating from on high.

Um, I frequently post to agree with or discuss something with posters of both genders. Sometimes I talk politics or body hair. I thank posters male and female when they put time into writing a post or guide I enjoyed. It's one of those just because you didn't see it doesn't mean it didn't happen things.
If you can find an instance of me claiming female superiority I'd be interested in seeing it.
How you feel or how you speculate other posters feel about me is irrelevant.

If you were actually only giving constructive advice, no one would have a problem with it.
You know who was giving straight forward constructive advice? the op.

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Who the hell put you in anyone's head? You go and speak for half the world's population as if you're an authority, when all you have is your angst and sentiment. See, I'm just saying, if you go and make blanket statements, you make yourself look uninformed.

Women are judged on looks in all setting, even in business when it's largely irrelevant.
There are assumptions being made all over the place in this discussion.
It's interesting you picked this one to take issue with.

I just don't like her shoving erroneous ideas into an entire population's collective head and then running with it.

Not at all.

The OP is from the point of view of a female. And she decided not to get into how guys may react because you´d then be telling her that she is incorrect and so on.

You are more than free to create your own male version of this thread

The OP doesnt state that all males do it, its trying to explain why women react a certain way to a phrase. Feel free to create your own thread about the problem with asking guys how much do they earn or something similar if you wish.

I see nothing on the OP stating that females dont care about mens looks so I dont see where you are going with that false accusation.

EDIT: there has been an open thread blaming one gender for something that both genders are to blame for over a month and it hasnt received half of this complaints. I wonder why?.
EDIT2: Keep in mind that what I said to MXH about being asked to let people say whatever they want to say(provided thats not an outright attack on either gender) still stands and I havent locked a thread because of that in quite a while.
I was the only one contacted about this so feel free to try to approach another mod and see what they think about this.

Fiiiine, point taken, don't lock it, i see that locking it would cause more drama...

http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/news/5630 ... d-monogamy

Patriarchy was probably a consequence of a 'sexual revolution' by beta males against alpha males' monopoly of females..
This may explain why female infidelity was more penalized (by men) in ancient cultures and still nowadays in some cultures.

No needs, there was a both-gender version already:

www.wrongplanet.net/postt197397.html

Shaving body hair makes a woman look feminine, it's as simple as that. Furthermore, the amount of terminal hairs a woman has on her legs, doesn't even come close to the amount a man has in his face—which he of course has to shave. A lot of women also wear high heels and make-up for their friends, not just to attract men.

Nobody is intimidated by women making the first move; he wasn't into her in the first place. This is the kind of rjection men face all the time.

ValentineWiggin, I think you've hit the nail on the head here. I see this *a lot* on here. There's an unexamined selection process going on here by the men as well as the women.

I say this as a neutral (non-dating) participant and an observer.

Not anymore than you do.

And no, thats not even close to what I said. But its good to see that you can let your bias against me dictate how you interpret my posts. Thats all Ive been looking at this whole time. "I don't want you to be the bad guy, I want you to stop being defensive and feeling like men are being attacked when someone points out a difficulty women face." Then act like it. Because unlike you I dont go around pointing every single problem in all of womanhood and blaming it on men (patriarchy anyone?). I go around showing problems in my life, which happens to be as a man. That you cant make that connection be it because of your bias or because you just dont even have the capacity to even think in that manner.

And I more than frequently blame men for the actions they do to give us stupid views. Hell this same night I was bitching at a guy here for being a cynical jerk because he is angry at the world. You obviously failed to see that, the same way you failed to see what I was saying about women in this thread. But its nice to be able to call someone sexist and not even bother looking at what they have said; it reminds me of how the term racist is used now a days, its only racist if its done to a minority.
Claiming female superiority wise, its all in the details. Youve made posts where you jump on 10 guys for "generalizing women" and then go on to say silly things like "women care only about your personality, etc." You infact generalized women into making them all to be sweethearts. But thats perfectly fine because you said something positive about women. When we all know its completely not true.

I feel this part neeeded its own line "How you feel or how you speculate other posters feel about me is irrelevant." Coming from the same person who not even 5 minutes before came out and called me sexist on no grounds besides her own bias against me. If you're going to come out and say something that f*****g stupid, cause let it be known it about one of the dumbest f*****g things Ive heard in this website. Especially considering I live with a strong minded feminist woman, who happens to also be in this website (since we met here). Guess what, Unlike you and the couple others around here she admits that women arent doing what they can for change. Which is what I said in that post in case you missed it. Its that you would rather simply come and b***h at someone (and not just any someone, but someone whos having their lives turned over because of how women treat him) and act as if he is the scum of the earth. Get off your high horse, all of you. You want change? WORK FOR IT. Thats all Ive ever f*****g said to you and the others. That was the point of that overly long post, to say that if you're not going to actually do something about it then stop complaining and live like they do. If you have nothing better to do with your time I welcome you to go read all 87XX posts of mine and find a single entry in which i was actually being sexist. I f*****g DARE YOU. Because theres none. What you will find is that every time I find someone stupid enough, and i mean like between a sack of potatoes and a doorknob level of stupid, I understand that words arent my (or their) forte, so I make my posts a picture book to make them understand better.


Ohhh, and before mods come rushing in from left and right at me making a personal attack, How about taking care of the one in the previous bunch of pages before. thanks

What the hell is going on here?

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MXH, I would say I see just anger but that wouldn't be true, I see seething hatred in the things you're writing.

I am angry and hate people that do this pretentious banter. But not the gender in itself. Again, you're enacting a bias that because im vocal and single i must hate women. When id say the same things with someone else. Why is it sexist to tell someone if they want change they have to work for it? Because thats the same advice they all give to the so called lonely guys around here (when they even bother to give advice and not just assume theyre misogynist in nature).

I do have a devout hatred of social BS, and so do many here. But aparently im the only one thats bothering to try and change things. If so then ill gladly ask everyone else to STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT IT IF you're NOT WILLING TO WORK FOR IT

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