13 Feb 2013, 11:02 am
13 Feb 2013, 11:04 am
13 Feb 2013, 11:42 am
nessa238 wrote:
Geekonychus wrote:
Not quite sure whats NT about wanting to have kids and a family someday.
I think a lot of people here have a very isolationist attitude and resent NT people just as "nice guys" tend to resent woman and blame them for all thier issues. I understand it (as I also understand the the OP and his "nice guy" mindset) but that doesn't mean they are right. I've been where you guys have been and, In my opinion, the "us versus them" mindset is not a healthy place.
I think a lot of people here have a very isolationist attitude and resent NT people just as "nice guys" tend to resent woman and blame them for all thier issues. I understand it (as I also understand the the OP and his "nice guy" mindset) but that doesn't mean they are right. I've been where you guys have been and, In my opinion, the "us versus them" mindset is not a healthy place.
It works fine for me
I'm fine with nice NTs, it's the nasty ones I don't like and they seem to be in the majority from my own vantage point
- perhaps you get more acceptance off them hence can afford to be more neutral about them
I would be interested to know what percentage of people on this board aspire to the whole marriage and children thing though
as I'd assumed it would be the minority
So what if a minority want to have kids? I don't want kids but I'm open to the possibility that with the right person my mind might be changed someday.
Making broad generalizations about what makes a person an Aspie or NT is almost as bad as some of the generalizations about woman I've read in a lot of these posts.
Yes I am a proud gamergeek (my avatar is a Metroid.) I watch anime, play D&D and obsess over Guillermo Del Toro movies. I'm well groomed, self sufficient, with a career and a college degree, all of which I worked very hard to get but I guess my hobbies are what really measure my maturity.
13 Feb 2013, 11:45 am
Geekonychus wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
Geekonychus wrote:
Not quite sure whats NT about wanting to have kids and a family someday.
I think a lot of people here have a very isolationist attitude and resent NT people just as "nice guys" tend to resent woman and blame them for all thier issues. I understand it (as I also understand the the OP and his "nice guy" mindset) but that doesn't mean they are right. I've been where you guys have been and, In my opinion, the "us versus them" mindset is not a healthy place.
I think a lot of people here have a very isolationist attitude and resent NT people just as "nice guys" tend to resent woman and blame them for all thier issues. I understand it (as I also understand the the OP and his "nice guy" mindset) but that doesn't mean they are right. I've been where you guys have been and, In my opinion, the "us versus them" mindset is not a healthy place.
It works fine for me
I'm fine with nice NTs, it's the nasty ones I don't like and they seem to be in the majority from my own vantage point
- perhaps you get more acceptance off them hence can afford to be more neutral about them
I would be interested to know what percentage of people on this board aspire to the whole marriage and children thing though
as I'd assumed it would be the minority
So what if a minority want to have kids? I don't want kids but I'm open to the possibility that with the right person my mind might be changed someday.
Making broad generalizations about what makes a person an Aspie or NT is almost as bad as some of the generalizations about woman I've read in a lot of these posts.
Yes I am a proud gamergeek (my avatar is a Metroid.) I watch anime, play D&D and obsess over Guillermo Del Toro movies. I'm well groomed, self sufficient, with a career and a college degree, all of which I worked very hard to get but I guess my hobbies are what really measure my maturity.
Every other male your age does the same though
I don't like the idea of being defined by what everyone else is doing, I want to be different
Most people are just too samey for me
13 Feb 2013, 11:59 am
nessa238 wrote:
Geekonychus wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
Geekonychus wrote:
Not quite sure whats NT about wanting to have kids and a family someday.
I think a lot of people here have a very isolationist attitude and resent NT people just as "nice guys" tend to resent woman and blame them for all thier issues. I understand it (as I also understand the the OP and his "nice guy" mindset) but that doesn't mean they are right. I've been where you guys have been and, In my opinion, the "us versus them" mindset is not a healthy place.
I think a lot of people here have a very isolationist attitude and resent NT people just as "nice guys" tend to resent woman and blame them for all thier issues. I understand it (as I also understand the the OP and his "nice guy" mindset) but that doesn't mean they are right. I've been where you guys have been and, In my opinion, the "us versus them" mindset is not a healthy place.
It works fine for me
I'm fine with nice NTs, it's the nasty ones I don't like and they seem to be in the majority from my own vantage point
- perhaps you get more acceptance off them hence can afford to be more neutral about them
I would be interested to know what percentage of people on this board aspire to the whole marriage and children thing though
as I'd assumed it would be the minority
So what if a minority want to have kids? I don't want kids but I'm open to the possibility that with the right person my mind might be changed someday.
Making broad generalizations about what makes a person an Aspie or NT is almost as bad as some of the generalizations about woman I've read in a lot of these posts.
Yes I am a proud gamergeek (my avatar is a Metroid.) I watch anime, play D&D and obsess over Guillermo Del Toro movies. I'm well groomed, self sufficient, with a career and a college degree, all of which I worked very hard to get but I guess my hobbies are what really measure my maturity.
Every other male your age does the same though
I don't like the idea of being defined by what everyone else is doing, I want to be different
Most people are just too samey for me
Again. Broad generalizations. You say you don't want people to be "too samey" but you expect all Aspies to conform to how you percieve an aspie mindset should be. I work hard every day to get over my depressive defeatist attitude (stemming from a lifetime of social rejection and abuse), not so I can be a sheep but so I can be comfortable with who I am. I don't fit in with most people but I don't let it bother me. I know how to play to my strengths.
13 Feb 2013, 12:05 pm
Geekonychus wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
Geekonychus wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
Geekonychus wrote:
Not quite sure whats NT about wanting to have kids and a family someday.
I think a lot of people here have a very isolationist attitude and resent NT people just as "nice guys" tend to resent woman and blame them for all thier issues. I understand it (as I also understand the the OP and his "nice guy" mindset) but that doesn't mean they are right. I've been where you guys have been and, In my opinion, the "us versus them" mindset is not a healthy place.
I think a lot of people here have a very isolationist attitude and resent NT people just as "nice guys" tend to resent woman and blame them for all thier issues. I understand it (as I also understand the the OP and his "nice guy" mindset) but that doesn't mean they are right. I've been where you guys have been and, In my opinion, the "us versus them" mindset is not a healthy place.
It works fine for me
I'm fine with nice NTs, it's the nasty ones I don't like and they seem to be in the majority from my own vantage point
- perhaps you get more acceptance off them hence can afford to be more neutral about them
I would be interested to know what percentage of people on this board aspire to the whole marriage and children thing though
as I'd assumed it would be the minority
So what if a minority want to have kids? I don't want kids but I'm open to the possibility that with the right person my mind might be changed someday.
Making broad generalizations about what makes a person an Aspie or NT is almost as bad as some of the generalizations about woman I've read in a lot of these posts.
Yes I am a proud gamergeek (my avatar is a Metroid.) I watch anime, play D&D and obsess over Guillermo Del Toro movies. I'm well groomed, self sufficient, with a career and a college degree, all of which I worked very hard to get but I guess my hobbies are what really measure my maturity.
Every other male your age does the same though
I don't like the idea of being defined by what everyone else is doing, I want to be different
Most people are just too samey for me
Again. Broad generalizations. You say you don't want people to be "too samey" but you expect all Aspies to conform to how you percieve an aspie mindset should be. I work hard every day to get over my depressive defeatist attitude (stemming from a lifetime of social rejection and abuse), not so I can be a sheep but so I can be comfortable with who I am. I don't fit in with most people but I don't let it bother me. I know how to play to my strengths.
Are you trying to lay a guilt trip on me?
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13 Feb 2013, 12:07 pm
13 Feb 2013, 12:10 pm
nessa238 wrote:
Are you trying to lay a guilt trip on me?
I don't get it. Why should you feel guilty?
13 Feb 2013, 12:12 pm
Geekonychus wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
Are you trying to lay a guilt trip on me?
I don't get it. Why should you feel guilty?It was as if you were saying 'I've struggled hard to achieve what I've achieved and you come along trying to make me feel bad!'
That's what I took from what you said
13 Feb 2013, 12:16 pm
13 Feb 2013, 12:31 pm
nessa238 wrote:
Geekonychus wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
Are you trying to lay a guilt trip on me?
I don't get it. Why should you feel guilty?It was as if you were saying 'I've struggled hard to achieve what I've achieved and you come along trying to make me feel bad!'
That's what I took from what you said
nessa238 wrote:
When you feel you've been rejected by mainstream society it means I feel I don't want to do the things mainstream society does or it would mean I was trying to be like these people and I don't want to be like them
I just happen not to be interested in these things anyway
I just happen not to be interested in these things anyway
And what of the people who are interested in those things and don't care whether they are mainstream or not?
You continue to make broad generalizations as if everyone should be expected to think like you if they are to be considered "true aspies" while at the same time saying you don't want everyone to be "too samey." Thinking all aspies should be vehemently non-conformist is in and of itself very conformist........like some kind of aspie hipster.
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Joined: 28 Oct 2012
Age: 51
Gender: Male
Posts: 185
Location: Canada
13 Feb 2013, 12:36 pm
13 Feb 2013, 12:36 pm
Geekonychus wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
Geekonychus wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
Are you trying to lay a guilt trip on me?
I don't get it. Why should you feel guilty?It was as if you were saying 'I've struggled hard to achieve what I've achieved and you come along trying to make me feel bad!'
That's what I took from what you said
nessa238 wrote:
When you feel you've been rejected by mainstream society it means I feel I don't want to do the things mainstream society does or it would mean I was trying to be like these people and I don't want to be like them
I just happen not to be interested in these things anyway
I just happen not to be interested in these things anyway
And what of the people who are interested in those things and don't care whether they are mainstream or not?
You continue to make broad generalizations as if everyone should be expected to think like you if they are to be considered "true aspies" while at the same time saying you don't want everyone to be "too samey." Thinking all aspies should be vehemently non-conformist is in and of itself very conformist........like some kind of aspie hipster.
Please do not use the term 'hipster' in conjunction with myself - I am never trying to achieve a certain image, ever
I don't expect people to think just like me, I just say what I think and people often don't like it - that's their prerogative just as it's mine to say it
13 Feb 2013, 12:39 pm
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13 Feb 2013, 12:48 pm
Nessa238: please consider contacting Alex about becoming the next registration captcha.
Im sure we could all learn something out of this
13 Feb 2013, 12:50 pm
spongy wrote:
Nessa238: please consider contacting Alex about becoming the next registration captcha.
Im sure we could all learn something out of this
Im sure we could all learn something out of this
I don't get what you mean
What's a registration captcha?
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