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19 Mar 2007, 10:41 pm

ahayes wrote:

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Leads me to believe that you're trying to hide something. --Personally I really don't care, but at the same time would you please explain this? Are you in fact saying that any gay/bisexual urges that you feel are to be repressed because of religious/cultural upbringing, and that you would impose those religious/cultural values upon others irregardless of whether or not they do not share those values?

Do you people ever come up with a better response to those who are against homosexuality other than accusing them of being homosexual?

No, I am not saying that, because I don't have any gay/bisexual urges.

I do not impose any values on homosexuals, they can be as perverse as they want. What I am against is supporting their perversion by allowing them to "marry".

you did say you would turn gay if you wanted to. iv never heard any strickt heterosexual say that. if i want to become homosexual theres no way i can achieve that cause the thought of it grosses me the f**k out.

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19 Mar 2007, 10:45 pm

ZanneMarie wrote:

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ahayes wrote:

A marriage between two of the same gender is not a marriage, just a perversion.

True.

Fine. Then let's seperate marriage from the state sponsored status. Remove marriage from the law, and replace it with civil unions. I don't really like the idea of a religious concept being so closely tied with the law anyhow.

No, because marriage is generally an agreement to start a family. A union with homosexual is only an agreement to engage in sexual perversion.

Well since my heterosexual husband and I married with no intention to ever have children, I guess we're just engaging in sexual perversion. That's fine. We like it. We engage in it often. And amazingly, the law let us marry because we were heterosexuals. Wow. It's just amazing. Oh and by the way, before you get all stuck on your reproduction theory, more and more couples are getting married and never having children. It's becoming more and more the norm.

luckely so cause this world is extremely overpopulated. and still the church remains against birthcontroll. but its all rediculous anyway, cause noone is fooling me with claiming never to have masturbated, and thats at elast as perverted. also check what the bible says about homosexuality (barely anything), and check what it says about sex outside of marriage (quite some more)

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19 Mar 2007, 11:19 pm

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But by viewing their sexual choice as a perversion (and I'm not sure why since the only reason you seem to have given is that they have sex for fun rather than a perversion) you are almost ineligable to have a reasoned opinion on the matter. It is like asking a klansman about racial rights.

How does sodomy aid in the reproductive process at a biological level? Where, in the process of natural sexual intercourse, does buttf'cking come into play? When does one woman using a strap-on on another woman aid in the process of fertilization?

None of these questions can be answered correctly, it has taken sex and CHANGED it into something else. THIS IS WHY HOMOSEXUALITY IS PERVERSION.

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19 Mar 2007, 11:23 pm

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I DON'T want to, and I never will, and it DOES gross me out, but if I DID I'm sure I could condition myself to change.

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20 Mar 2007, 1:19 am

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Ah, so all sodomy is a perversion? What about protected sex - isn't that a perversion of the intention. With your views, we'd have to have more famine, pestilence, and warfare just to keep up with all the spawning. While this is the natural (by your take unperverted) way of the world, it doesn't make for one I'd want to be in. We have way to many hairless apes as it is.

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20 Mar 2007, 3:47 am

ahayes wrote:

calandale wrote:

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ahayes wrote:

A marriage between two of the same gender is not a marriage, just a perversion.

True.

No, because marriage is generally an agreement to start a family. A union with homosexual is only an agreement to engage in sexual perversion.

Marriage was actually started as a way for a man to show that he owned a woman and that the woman's father had sold her over to him, and marriage was essentially a mark of property. The idea of love and families in marriage was only conceived within the last couple of hundred years.

And don't tell me you don't think homosexuals can feel love, because if you say that you're just an arrogant bigot; don't assume to tell other people what emotions they feel.

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20 Mar 2007, 3:55 am

Beno wrote:

ahayes wrote:

calandale wrote:

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ahayes wrote:

A marriage between two of the same gender is not a marriage, just a perversion.

True.

No, because marriage is generally an agreement to start a family. A union with homosexual is only an agreement to engage in sexual perversion.

Right on dude! And to take this a step further; look at the ancients. Heterosexual males were expected to start families, and were forced to devout their love to family. Homosexual men were often the teachers and philosophers because not having a family freed them to devote their love towards knowledge.

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20 Mar 2007, 4:09 am

In many ancient cultures, a nice balance was preserved. Where a man was free to be with his wife and/or with other men. Personally, this isn't to my taste, but I always actually feel that my lack of desire for anything but a very narrow band of people is an unreasonable predjudice.

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20 Mar 2007, 8:44 am

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Personally, I think it's perverted to think in such detail about anyone else's sexual activities. I don't think about what others do in bed because I was taught that it was none of my business and rude. The entire problem with this prejudice stems from people who don't like it thinking about it way too much and in graphic detail. If you don't want to do it, then don't. If you don't want to marry the same sex, then don't.

As for me, I had thing cut and burned to stop that natural reproductive process and continued to have sex with my husband. How perverted of me. LOL Guess what? I'm going to keep right on doing it and I could care less what anyone thinks about it either. If they don't like it, they don't need to be thinking about what I'm doing in bed anyway because it's none of their business. Just like it's no one's business who is getting a marriage license, whether it's a man and a woman, two men or two women. Asking those questions is getting into people's private lives and bedrooms. There's a reason it's called a "private" life.

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20 Mar 2007, 9:48 am

Beno wrote:

And don't tell me you don't think homosexuals can feel love, because if you say that you're just an arrogant bigot; don't assume to tell other people what emotions they feel.

I'm not saying they aren't capable of love, but what they engage in most certainly isn't, nor is it a product of love.

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20 Mar 2007, 9:52 am

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FYI, I didn't have a choice, that s**t is plastered all over the internet. You may never have come across it, but try learning about actual hacking and you'll find clouds of it.

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20 Mar 2007, 9:53 am

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But it's still normal sex.

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20 Mar 2007, 10:00 am

Beno wrote:

Why don't you form your OWN ideas instead of using cookie cutter arguments that the world has heard a thousand times before???

What was the world like BEFORE that last couple hundred years? Where would you rather live, NOW or 200 years ago?

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20 Mar 2007, 10:02 am

Why is this in the love and dating forum? This thread should be in the politics forum.

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20 Mar 2007, 10:33 am

ahayes wrote:

Why is this in the love and dating forum? This thread should be in the politics forum.

If political / religious (in the U.S. it is one and the same...) arguments are going to be used, then yes.

ahayes wrote:

What was the world like BEFORE that last couple hundred years? Where would you rather live, NOW or 200 years ago?

Time machines don't exist. This point is moot.

ahayes wrote:

Why don't you form your OWN ideas instead of using cookie cutter arguments that the world has heard a thousand times before???

A widespread, repeatedly used idea isn't inherently a bad idea. If the idea was "Jumping off of tall buildings is a bad way to deal with stress," and people were complete idiots, you'd probably hear it on a daily basis as well.

Why didn't you address my points? I hate having to defend other peoples' arguments.

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20 Mar 2007, 3:50 pm

ahayes wrote:

calandale wrote:

But it's still normal sex.

How? Offspring is not being produced.

ahayes wrote:

Why is this in the love and dating forum? This thread should be in the politics forum.

Gay people love and date too.

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