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07 Oct 2016, 8:12 am

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it should be, "what things about you are appealing and lovable" and there will be things to list in everyone.


Not sure if that's sarcasm or blind optimism.



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07 Oct 2016, 8:24 am

Sabreclaw wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
it should be, "what things about you are appealing and lovable" and there will be things to list in everyone.


Not sure if that's sarcasm or blind optimism.


Not sarcasm. There are good things in everyone. I genuinely believe that.



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07 Oct 2016, 8:26 am

hurtloam wrote:
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hurtloam wrote:
it should be, "what things about you are appealing and lovable" and there will be things to list in everyone.


Not sure if that's sarcasm or blind optimism.


Not sarcasm. There are good things in everyone. I genuinely believe that.


I wish I could believe that, but I'm well aware that I have zero redeeming traits, and I'm sure there's other equally worthless people out there too.



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07 Oct 2016, 8:26 am

I believe there is good in most people.

I believe, even amongst "bad" people, that there are, at times, good intentions.



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07 Oct 2016, 9:11 am

Sabreclaw wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
it should be, "what things about you are appealing and lovable" and there will be things to list in everyone.


Not sure if that's sarcasm or blind optimism.


Not sarcasm. There are good things in everyone. I genuinely believe that.


I wish I could believe that, but I'm well aware that I have zero redeeming traits, and I'm sure there's other equally worthless people out there too.


No, you are wrong. Tell me one thing you like about yourself.



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07 Oct 2016, 9:20 am

His claw is not as "saber-y" as it seems to be at first glance....



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07 Oct 2016, 9:33 am

hurtloam wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
it should be, "what things about you are appealing and lovable" and there will be things to list in everyone.


Not sure if that's sarcasm or blind optimism.


Not sarcasm. There are good things in everyone. I genuinely believe that.


I wish I could believe that, but I'm well aware that I have zero redeeming traits, and I'm sure there's other equally worthless people out there too.


No, you are wrong. Tell me one thing you like about yourself.

Nothing really. There was a time when I thought highly of myself, but that arrogance is long gone.

kraftiekortie wrote:
His claw is not as "saber-y" as it seems to be at first glance....

Eh?



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07 Oct 2016, 9:40 am

In other words, you're really a cool guy, even if you don't know it.



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07 Oct 2016, 10:05 am

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In other words, you're really a cool guy, even if you don't know it.


Pfft, I know you don't believe that. I've been hostile and nonconstructive on this site, plus I do have that bad habit of talking about myself too much in threads. Besides which, I just just don't fit in. There is no reason anyone here would consider me cool.

My avatar is actually a good depiction of me. Even though that creature, the Sabreclaw, is just an enemy from a video game I enjoy, it's a pretty good analogy for how people, women especially, perceive me - a harmless but ugly monster.



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07 Oct 2016, 10:41 am

Sabreclaw wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
In other words, you're really a cool guy, even if you don't know it.


Pfft, I know you don't believe that. I've been hostile and nonconstructive on this site, plus I do have that bad habit of talking about myself too much in threads. Besides which, I just just don't fit in. There is no reason anyone here would consider me cool.

My avatar is actually a good depiction of me. Even though that creature, the Sabreclaw, is just an enemy from a video game I enjoy, it's a pretty good analogy for how people, women especially, perceive me - a harmless but ugly monster.


I like your honesty, openness and avatar, wanna be friends? :)



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07 Oct 2016, 10:50 am

Hey...don't spit at me, Bro! LOL

I think you're somewhat iconoclastic---but not really a bad guy. That's my impression.



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07 Oct 2016, 3:37 pm

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Oregon and the pacific north west


Thats funny because in talking to people and reading different things lately as to wheres a good state to move to, Washington and Oregon keep coming up. They were on my list for legal weed and climate anyways... intersting...

It's a real outdoorsy place. But better have good job , car and own place as well as look attractive if you want a girl here.

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Washington has the advantage of having no state income tax [yet].


You have a sales tax which is a worse way of accomplishing the same thing.
Oregon has income tax but no sales tax. I don't get taxed. If I lived in Washington I'd be homeless from the sales tax. Since it doesn't care about your poverty and taxes everyone's the same. No thanks.



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07 Oct 2016, 3:50 pm

[quote="The_Face_of_Boo"]


Why does someone have to offer something?
See this is what bothers me about relationships today. They aren't about love. Their a business transaction. People are seen as objects to buy and negotiate over, rather then love and companionship, this is why divorce is sp high. They get married and as soon as the person no longer offered something they get divorced and move on to the next disposable human, quite sad really. People fault so hard to get away from this crap in the 1800s and to finally be with someone for love and now their great great great grand kids have thrown it all away and gone back to treating people as commodities and marring for status and wealth instead of love, Might as well go back to arranged marriages at this point.

I really hate that phras too boo. "What do you have to offer" it's used as a insult and to put people down, like a "wtf do you think you would ever have a gf your so worthless"

Why you with your wife
"Well she cooks, clean knits sweaters form me and good at sex"

"Why are you with your husband
"He has a good job, can fix things, cook, and has a nice car"

No love. Why not just hire a maid and visit a prostitute.

What happen to love, what happen to better or WORSE.
Society is so materialistic today that if you as a person don't offer some kind of material gain your deemed as worthless and unloveable. If you can't offer money or prefers useful tasks then what's the point. People use to get together for love and not care about that stuff. Now it seems I'm one of the few left who doesn't and only wants love and companionship. That's all a woman has to have for me. She can be completely talentless, unemployable, and failure at everything she does and I'd still love her.



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07 Oct 2016, 5:02 pm

Sly it used to be worse. People didn't marry for love, they married because it was the done thing.

Especially for women. They didn't have many rights and needed a man for financial support.

And the upper classes married for money and prominence, not love. They then just slept around with whomever they wanted after the first male child was born as an heir to their estate.

Now we are all free to choose. Both men and women.

I'll admit that we do live in a materialistic society, but there's no point glamourising a past that wasn't glamorous.

Romantic love has always be a luxury unfortunately.



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07 Oct 2016, 5:44 pm

hurtloam wrote:
the reality is if we don't have any appealing quality or traits, no one is going to want us let alone love us.

Rather than saying "what do you have to offer?" it should be, "what things about you are appealing and lovable" and there will be things to list in everyone.

The next question is, if you feel you lack something appealing, can you improve upon and change that. Same goes for things we may think are unappealing. can we improve and change those?


Hurtloam you rock :heart:

That is what I meant, thanks so much for re-wording the essence so beautifully :D

I believe that one cannot control qualities in others like the many lists in the first pages of this topic. And other topics about the quest for the perfect gf...

Imho one can however attempt to find out about their strengths and how to use those to connect to someone else.

Love is all about connecting imho.

Auntblabby :oops: you are very kind, thank you :heart:



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07 Oct 2016, 6:04 pm

^^^prego :flower: a person might as well learn to love the reflection in the mirror. :idea: