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12 Aug 2017, 3:37 pm

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I believe it is a cultural thing. In ancient greek it was the other way around. The male body was considered the pinnacle of beauty.

Yep. And they were totally into pederasty, too.

Doesn't make it right.


There is no wrong or right in that area. It's all about attitudes that differ from culture to culture.

So you're perfectly ok with men abusing their positions of trust and authority to have sexual relationships with young boys? Interesting...


Not really, but there is more to it than that.



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12 Aug 2017, 5:18 pm

rdos wrote:
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I believe it is a cultural thing. In ancient greek it was the other way around. The male body was considered the pinnacle of beauty.

Yep. And they were totally into [redacted], too.

Doesn't make it right.


There is no wrong or right in that area. It's all about attitudes that differ from culture to culture.

So you're perfectly ok with men abusing their positions of trust and authority to have [redacted]? Interesting...


Not really, but there is more to it than that.

There are quite a few men in the national [offensive] registry (and women, too, I'm sure) who would say the same thing.



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12 Aug 2017, 10:12 pm

Cat calling is ALWAYS aggressive. Try talking to women about it, rather than making armchair philosophy. It is nothing like flirting.


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12 Aug 2017, 11:11 pm

Flirting and catcalling is still subjective. It's only catcalling when the woman doesn't like it.



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12 Aug 2017, 11:26 pm

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Flirting and catcalling is still subjective. It's only catcalling when the woman doesn't like it.


Agreed.


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13 Aug 2017, 12:18 am

Dream on.


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13 Aug 2017, 1:49 am

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Cat calling is ALWAYS aggressive. Try talking to women about it, rather than making armchair philosophy. It is nothing like flirting.


Read the research article. There were many women in the study that didn't find catcalling disgusting, and many that didn't get afraid, although it was more common among NTs.

Besides, there is a thin line between cat calling and trying to get the attention of a woman a guy is interested in. Cat calling simply fits pretty well into the normal courtship behavior of NTs.



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13 Aug 2017, 1:51 am

Whatever. Go ahead and reinforce these absurd ideas. Less competition for me. More moaning on the boards about how women treat them so unfairly, but it will barely move the needle.


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13 Aug 2017, 2:02 am

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Study on flashing and catcalling: https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... odiversity

Not peer reviewed or published. N>3,000, which looks promising, but the quiz was taken online from a variety of unspecified sources. I doubt it will pass peer review or get published, despite being exciting reading. There's no way to know how many of the "women" who took the quiz actually identify as women, or have lady parts.

Researchgate bills itself as a social networking site for scientists. They can post drafts of papers, and seek collaborators for research. Nothing there should be taken as part of the book, yet. I don't think I'd want to work with this guy.


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13 Aug 2017, 4:02 am

It's not the body part that grossed her out. It was the act of that pervert exposing himself. Exhibitionism is a mental illness that applies to all genders.



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13 Aug 2017, 4:14 am

jrjones9933 wrote:
Not peer reviewed or published.


It's been on peer-review several times, and the reason it was not published was because it was too controversial for the journals involved, and not because of flaws in the study, which the peer-reviewers couldn't point out. Rather, they simply disliked the research as it challenged their long-held theories and prejudices.

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N>3,000, which looks promising, but the quiz was taken online from a variety of unspecified sources.


The quiz has been both peer-reviewed and published, so that is not valid.

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I doubt it will pass peer review or get published, despite being exciting reading. There's no way to know how many of the "women" who took the quiz actually identify as women, or have lady parts.


Now you are just being silly. :roll:

People selected their gender long before they were asked about flashing. In fact, the question about flashing was mixed-up with normal autistic questions, only given to women, and participants primarily did Aspie Quiz to see if they had autistic traits. IOW, getting this survey was completely unexpected. Additionally, there was no direct link to the survey, rather, people had to fill out 100+ questions in Aspie Quiz first.



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13 Aug 2017, 7:06 am

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I get triggered when people say this. I think Cat-calling is a case by case thing. It's typically offensive based on when and how you do it, but if you are considered attractive to someone I think it's taken as just another method of flirting. One of those double standard things if you will.


Of course. Both cat calling and flashing can be aggressive, but typically, none of them are. Both are indeed similar to flirting. It's just that in Western culture, we think that dating is the only valid way to pursue a relationship. It's so entrenched in our thinking so we use "dating" as a general term for all kinds of ways to get into relationships, regardless if there is any real dating or not.


Cat-calling and flashing are almost always aggressive.

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13 Aug 2017, 10:58 am

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Whatever. Go ahead and reinforce these absurd ideas. Less competition for me. More moaning on the boards about how women treat them so unfairly, but it will barely move the needle.


If a guy says "You're cute" to a girl, how would you know what the guy is thinking?



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13 Aug 2017, 5:20 pm

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Whatever. Go ahead and reinforce these absurd ideas. Less competition for me. More moaning on the boards about how women treat them so unfairly, but it will barely move the needle.


If a guy says "You're cute" to a girl, how would you know what the guy is thinking?


I would take, "You're cute," as a compliment.

"Nice ass, b***h," is not.


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13 Aug 2017, 7:19 pm

Context matters. "You're cute" comes across differently when offered deferentially by a person standing nearby, than when shouted across a parking lot.


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14 Aug 2017, 4:36 am

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I would take, "You're cute," as a compliment.


Not if he shouted it at you. Neither if he had a knife in his hand. Or if he was very ugly. Compliments are only words and need to be related to the situation.

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"Nice ass, b***h," is not.


I'd bet some women would take it as a compliment if it was said by somebody super-attractive.