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12 Dec 2018, 12:07 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:

That's true.

But I was a socially-awkward Aspie type while this happened.

Even more impressive!

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12 Dec 2018, 12:13 pm

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Don't listen to most of what the women here say, they're not in your shoes.

I sincerely hope you see the irony in this.

Not at all. Spell it out for me.

L - I - S - T - E - N - T - O - W- O - M- E - N :wink:

(spelling it out). (At least listen to the ones on here, who are equally conscious of every social interaction, and able to be honest because we are anonymous). We don't want players. A six pack or a man who goes to a gym would turn me off, tbh. Trust that women have the same BS rhetoric tossed at them about snaring a man. It's all garbage to line someone's pocket. Just get out of your house, meet people, and be nice.

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12 Dec 2018, 12:14 pm

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kraftiekortie wrote:

That's true.

But I was a socially-awkward Aspie type while this happened.

Even more impressive!

I happen to love me some nerds.

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12 Dec 2018, 12:24 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:

(At least listen to the ones on here, who are equally conscious of every social interaction, and able to be honest because we are anonymous). We don't want players. A sick pack or a man who goes to a gym would turn me off, tbh. Trust that women have the same BS rhetoric tossed at them about snaring a man. It's all garbage to line someone's pocket. Just get out of your house, meet people, and be nice.

I wasn't talking about any sort of rhetoric.

Most WOMEN are NT. (Most men as well for that matter.) May Aspie's struggle to understand NT social behavior or apply it correctly.

Thus, the men complaining here are mostly AS men noticing truths about the NT dating world. The AS women here are really in no position to comment about said experience (being an AS man trying to understand the NT female mindset.) Emphasis on neurotype, not womanhood.

Where's the irony?

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12 Dec 2018, 12:29 pm

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The irony is that you don't want to know what we women think, or you think that you know better. Date an aspie woman.

They're less confusing than NT women, who I agree are often too complicated. (As are NT men).

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12 Dec 2018, 12:33 pm

What I can't understand is why they want a relationship with an NT woman. I don't even want to be friends with really NT women.

My goal has always been to find a partner I actually like and have things in common with. Why would I pretend to be something I'm not to get someone I don't like?

Red pill makes no sense to me.

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12 Dec 2018, 12:33 pm

There is no "mindset" to understand, really. The women you find in bars are not most women. Women are individuals.

A bar is absolutely the WRONG place for an Aspie to try to seek a woman.

Many women are conventional; many others are not.

There are some beautiful women who dig football, and who never wear makeup---but are totally into men sexually.

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12 Dec 2018, 12:39 pm

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If you insist on going to a bar, go to a men's gay bar. The women there are usually aspie and having fun. I've met great men there both gay and straight. I wouldn't go to a straight bar (especially in America) if I were paid.

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12 Dec 2018, 12:42 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:

Actually, I think you have some interesting things to say. But in the context of dating women, as I've said, most women are NT. An Aspie woman's perspective isn't helpful (you're likely to be as socially clueless as we are, or at least more socially clueless than NTs).

Like you said, I don't know what 'you women' think. But I'm talking about NT women, and you don't really know what they think either, which is why I suggested not taking AS female advice on this subject (pertaining to NT women).

Aspie women seem far and few between. Plus, I think if I were an Aspie woman, I'd probably prefer an NT guy who could provide/protect me better than the average AS guy, and, more importantly, act as a crutch in social situations.

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12 Dec 2018, 12:47 pm

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Hey, I don't know if that was meant for me. I wasn't talking about going to bars. I'm not really into the subject itself, and I'm not really complaining. I was talking about how AS women can't understand the NT woman mindset, so when AS men complain, AS women shouldn't get so defensive, and their advice is (honestly) somewhat useless in this context.

But I think Isabella Linton and hurtloam bring up good points. Why should AS men even bother with NT women? I agree, in principal, but I don't think there are that many AS women to go around. And man AS women would probably prefer an NT partner, and have an easier time getting him. Why would they waste time with AS males?

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12 Dec 2018, 12:49 pm

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But, you agree that pursuing or dating an NT woman has been unsuccessful. Join some autistic communities or programs and I hope you can meet an Aspie female. You may think they'd want NT partners for stability but in the end NT men are exhausting because they usually want to socialise too much. I'd much rather settle down with someone who is equally corny, like me. (Also, I agree with hurtloam! HUGS to you!)

*The comment about gay bars wasn't for you specifically but for any man reading this who feels they want to go to a bar. Maybe they think alcohol will help them to be more sociable. Gay bars are really fun and there are usually women there who aren't looking for macho men, or who actually enjoy people for who they are*

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12 Dec 2018, 12:52 pm

The opposite of NT isn't AS. NTs are the highly sociable extroverts who care about wasting money on shoes and making sure their cushions match their curtains. They care about social status more than deeper things.

There's a load of quirky none aspie women out there too.

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12 Dec 2018, 12:54 pm

I used to know a lot of "quirky non-Aspie women" back in the 1980s. I slept with some of them.

You have said some very intelligent things, EZBZ. You seem like a really bright guy. Maybe more "intelligent" than I am.

There are many woman of similar intellect out there. I'm not just talking out of my butt. I know this for a fact. Some of them are Aspie; others are not. It doesn't matter, really.

Just seek to meet women of a similar philosophy and mindset as you----whether Aspie or not Aspie. There are Aspie women who are absolute airheads, too.

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12 Dec 2018, 1:04 pm

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There are Aspie women who are absolute airheads, too.

Very true. Two of them are posting on this very page right now.

...Relax, that's a joke!

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12 Dec 2018, 1:07 pm

ezbzbfcg2 wrote:

kraftiekortie wrote:

There are Aspie women who are absolute airheads, too.

Very true. Two of them are posting on this very page right now.

...Relax, that's a joke!

Hmmmm.....is it? :mrgreen:

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12 Dec 2018, 1:10 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

ezbzbfcg2 wrote:

kraftiekortie wrote:

There are Aspie women who are absolute airheads, too.

Very true. Two of them are posting on this very page right now.

...Relax, that's a joke!

Hmmmm.....is it? :mrgreen:

I like your sense of humor better than my own. HA HA HA.

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