Intercourse and Intelligence (and Feminism?)

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Which "Intercourse and Intelligence" theory do you favor?
More intellectual people find something that's more interesting than sex. 11%  11%  [ 8 ]
Smarter people are more risk averse, and delay sexual activities over concerns about unwanted pregnancy and disease. While not avoiding sexual behaviors per se, they are less likely to seek out / consent to for fear of potential consequences. 19%  19%  [ 13 ]
Smarter people are more religious or more ethically conservative, and are trying harder to wait for marriage to have sex. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Intelligent people (particulalry males) actually want to have sex, but are simply less likely or unable to obtain willing partners because they are disproportionately viewed as unattractive or undesirable as partners. 29%  29%  [ 20 ]
Intelligent people have lower general sex drives. 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
Some combination of the previous theories. 20%  20%  [ 14 ]
The study is flawed / theories are bogus. 14%  14%  [ 10 ]
Something else? (Please discuss.) 4%  4%  [ 3 ]
Total votes : 70

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05 Aug 2007, 9:47 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
If your autisticsly s---faced, look like a serial killer, or something of that nature, there's not a lot you can do or even hope for in terms of sprucing yourself up - you'll be scaring em off until you just cash in your chips for a different body and genetic make up in a different life.


Again, fair enough. But then they come to this forum and b***h about how pretty women are shallow because they won't get with them, and yet they insist on having good-looking girls or else their standards are lowered. They're complaining because women are using the same yardstick to measure them, that they use to measure women.

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People hate hopelessness, yet in this world it gets served up on a plate to almost anyone who the dice don't roll the right way for.


Yep, absolutely. I've seen several studies that show couples tend to be about as attractive as each other. So yes, if you're an unattractive guy, you're likely to end up with an unattractive woman if you're not rich or famous. (Unless you aren't willing to "settle" for a woman whose looks parallel yours -- then you can come to WP and complain about it.)

If that constitutes "hopelessness", then it isn't just on the male side. Unattractive women have the same problem, if not even worse.



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05 Aug 2007, 9:50 pm

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I have never met any woman within 10 years of my age who both fits the above description and is attracted to men...


Well, you're in the minority yourself. :)

I could suggest a couple of websites where you might be able to meet a woman like that...



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05 Aug 2007, 10:02 pm

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I consider myself a very feminine male.


Jesus H. Christ.

No wonder guys like me are swamped with beautiful, intelligent women day-in and day-out.



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05 Aug 2007, 10:07 pm

http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/node/368

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Wars are started by over-confident narcissistic men


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Scientists have provided evidence to back suspicions that men who are over-confident and narcissistic are the likeliest to start wars - but are also the likeliest to lose.



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05 Aug 2007, 10:11 pm

^That is f*****g awesome.

EDIT: The war part I mean, not the performance part. If that were the case I think I'd be dead by now.



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05 Aug 2007, 10:16 pm

juliekitty wrote:
But then they come to this forum and b***h about how pretty women are shallow

well, I am looking for barbie girls only who are not shallow at all, maybe she will be shallowless enough for both of us.


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05 Aug 2007, 10:25 pm

juliekitty wrote:
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
not only am I a lot like other guys in this but its just not in our own psychological governance much like I'd say the way women chose guys isn't in their own governance most of the time either.


Fair enough, and I agree with you.

What's driving me nuts is seeing post after post on this forum where men complain because women don't appreciate them for their inner qualities. Then, in the next breath, they insist that she's got to be pretty, and say that if she isn't they are "lowering their standards".

They want women to look right past the superficialities, but see no reason to do the same themselves - it doesn't even occur to them that they should.

Yeah, that drives me nuts too.


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05 Aug 2007, 10:27 pm

juliekitty wrote:
Again, fair enough. But then they come to this forum and b***h about how pretty women are shallow because they won't get with them, and yet they insist on having good-looking girls or else their standards are lowered. They're complaining because women are using the same yardstick to measure them, that they use to measure women.


By the way, I'm sorry if I seemed like I was riding ya, that's not what I really intended though. I guess I just wanted to walk you through the logic - you probably already knew but still I just wanted to bring the emotional presence of it to the now. I really try to watch myself on that one just because, I can just as easily feel that urge to wanna jaw on about the corruption of it all but anymore I've gotten pretty good at realizing "No, both sides are f'd up". Mind you I do think its messed up that people just give up anymore when infatuation wears off, that's a valid concern a lot of people have about where our society is headed, but thats another thing where our society will really need to take off its rose colored ego and vanity goggles to actually see it for what it is - I'd imagine until then both sides of the gender line will probably just keep putting on the brass knuckles and going to war over it.



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05 Aug 2007, 10:52 pm

Alicorn wrote:
Jainaday wrote:
The feminist movement has had a lot of unfortunate fallout.


Bill Maher on Feminism

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z8j4QJ0oiY[/youtube]


Great clip, by the way. So much truth in that. (Curious why it's now missing. ??? I guess the feminist elite silenced it? If so, no doubt because it didn't meet their definition of truth: "feel good".)


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05 Aug 2007, 10:56 pm

juliekitty wrote:

Yep, absolutely. I've seen several studies that show couples tend to be about as attractive as each other. So yes, if you're an unattractive guy, you're likely to end up with an unattractive woman if you're not rich or famous. (Unless you aren't willing to "settle" for a woman whose looks parallel yours -- then you can come to WP and complain about it.)

If that constitutes "hopelessness", then it isn't just on the male side. Unattractive women have the same problem, if not even worse.


I've seen plenty of couples where one
or the other member is far better looking.

Indeed, an old friend of mine (bemoaning
why she hadn't ended up with me, I fear),
had a theory that the exceedingly attractive
DON'T tend to match together, as they're used
to being the ones getting all the attention.



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05 Aug 2007, 10:58 pm

DataSage wrote:
Calandale wrote:
I consider myself a very feminine male.


Jesus H. Christ.

No wonder guys like me are swamped with beautiful, intelligent women day-in and day-out.


And interestingly, don't seem able to
keep them. Perhaps a bit more devotion
to sensuality and caring, rather than to
coming off as a boor, and you'd find
something better than your little flings.



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05 Aug 2007, 11:34 pm

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No wonder guys like me are swamped with beautiful, intelligent women day-in and day-out.


:roll:

Yes, we all believe you that you are.

Now will you shut up about it?



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05 Aug 2007, 11:35 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
I'm sorry if I seemed like I was riding ya


It didn't.

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
our society will really need to take off its rose colored ego and vanity goggles to actually see it for what it is


Don't wait up nights. ;)



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05 Aug 2007, 11:36 pm

Ragtime wrote:
the feminist elite


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06 Aug 2007, 12:33 am

calandale wrote:
And interestingly, don't seem able to
keep them. Perhaps a bit more devotion
to sensuality and caring, rather than to
coming off as a boor, and you'd find
something better than your little flings.


I don't "keep" most of them because I choose not to keep them. All of my serious relationships (since I've been using these techniques) have ended because of external factors (i.e. school, distance, etc), not over internal relationship complications. It's a genius way of finding the right women, but it's not fun sifting through the s**t, I'll give you that much. Yes, I sleep with girls who I feel like sleeping with, but that doesn't mean they're relationship material. If some people don't feel comfortable doing that, I can understand it.



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06 Aug 2007, 12:37 am

DataSage, what is the longest relationship that
you've kept, since you've become so full of yourself?