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11 Jun 2022, 2:17 pm

Possible causes:

A) She thought it was her own physical defect.

B) She doesn't think it can be done through this person's "efforts".

C) She felt ashamed to explore it.

D) She has no real interest in having sex with this person.

E) She is in an unequal relationship with this person, which makes it her duty to please him, but opposite isn't.

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11 Jun 2022, 3:32 pm

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Oh ok. But if a guy doesn't try very hard to make the woman orgasm and therefore doesn't care and they are self centered, why would the woman try to fake it to try to make him feel good about it if he doesn't care anyway?


You're forgetting at least one context where women fake, where they experience orgasm with a partner regularly and the inability to 'arrive' is largely due to an internal issue, not the performance (distracted, overstimulated, tender, too tired, having to maintain a schedule, etc).

s**t, when I was younger I thought if I was wearing a condom I thought I could fake it, so long as it wasn't inspected and I did so occasionally in circumstances similar to the above. I don't know about you but sometimes there's been days where deep into an extended session I realize conclusion just isn't going to happen.


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11 Jun 2022, 3:45 pm

Fake orgasms, fake hair color, fake nails, fake ages, fake "attributes" . . . who cares, especially when many women seem used to the men in their lives faking entire relationships?



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11 Jun 2022, 8:09 pm

Nice = beautiful in mind, body and spirit. When you find a girl you think is you soulmate it's likely other males also think the same way.

What I found is the nicest girls I knew were in highschool. I missed the boat with them because these girls were literally all in relationships by the time I woke up and noticed them in upper highschool.

When I was in University what was left (the single ones) weren't as nice and in any case the few I did come across all seemed to be focused on studies and in any case I wasn't in their league.

When I was in my 20s what was left mean't even less options

Eventually in my 30s I decided to go overseas to find work + find a wife



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11 Jun 2022, 8:13 pm

"body count" ???

That's a freaking disgusting term.

I assume people who speak of "body counts" have very low body counts, themselves.


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11 Jun 2022, 8:21 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
"body count" ???

That's a freaking disgusting term.

I assume people who speak of "body counts" have very low body counts, themselves.


These are terms that now universal across social media/conversation in the current generation (I hear it when listening to grand nephew/neices)

The internet dating scene is also called a "marketplace" and meat-market. These terms aren't that refined but unlike lthe r-word and n-word the media now uses them in articles.



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11 Jun 2022, 8:30 pm

Does that mean people can't reject the term, or think for themselves?Image


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11 Jun 2022, 8:41 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
Does that mean people can't reject the term, or think for themselves?Image


Of course they can. But people don't respond well to lecturing. For example I try and explain why using the r-word is problematic on an autism site and I'm going to be ignored by the majority of younger members for whom the term is already part of their vocabluary.



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11 Jun 2022, 8:47 pm

I wasn't referring to you cyber.
I'm just amazed by social media and how it influences people.
I've never heard this term used before.
I asked my daughter and she confirmed it's a thing -- but also a thing she calls out.

The R word? "ret*d" (verb) is a french word meaning that something is slowed or delayed.
We all have developmental delays if we're on the spectrum.
Technically, the word is correct.
It's sad that some people use it as an insult just like other slurs, but the meaning is sound.


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11 Jun 2022, 9:01 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
The R word? "ret*d" (verb) is a french word meaning that something is slowed or delayed.
We all have developmental delays if we're on the spectrum.
Technically, the word is correct.
It's sad that some people use it as an insult just like other slurs, but the meaning is sound.


Yes I know the r-word was originally used by psychologists along with imbecile, moron, idiot etc...to clinically define people of low intellect.

It entered common language as slurs and has remained. Trying to say that its used by engineers etc to define ret*d basins etc or other examples is simply deflect the intent from it's connotations (which everybody knows).

"Body count" is one of many metaphors/analogues that have become commonplace in social media so invariably enters the language of young people. There's podcasters who walk around asking young people near nighclubs "what's their bodycount" and they get lots of laughter. For them its all a bit of fun. But its messed up because especially for women it demeans the meaning of their life to to the volume of their sexual experiences. But that's where we are in 2022.



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11 Jun 2022, 9:07 pm

It's really sad how language gets bastardised over time.

Here's the original meaning of "idiot":

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I didn't mean to derail the thread.
As you know I can be a bit pedantic about language.
I guess it's because of my social-developmental delay. :P


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11 Jun 2022, 9:18 pm

ironpony wrote:
Isn't faking orgasms counterintuitive in a way, because the more women make it obvious, the man needs to try harder, the more likely he will try harder, and therefore do better?


I mean in my past situation with my boyfriend, that would not have really been fair. Idk like it wasn't his lack of trying it was my lack of communication and being unsure what exactly I like or not and being to embarrassed about perhaps liking some kinky things.

We sorted it out because I admitted to the kinky interests, and so we tried spicing it up a bit and that seems to have worked for us.

But I realize hooking up is a bit different, but idk even in a hook up a woman may not want to make it obvious if she is not getting there, especially if the guy is really trying. Because she doesn't want to hurt his feelings. Not saying that is better than being honest, but I can understand why women may not want to make it so obviouis the sex isn't great.


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11 Jun 2022, 9:27 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
But I realize hooking up is a bit different, but idk even in a hook up a woman may not want to make it obvious if she is not getting there, especially if the guy is really trying. Because she doesn't want to hurt his feelings. Not saying that is better than being honest, but I can understand why women may not want to make it so obviouis the sex isn't great.


My understanding of popular hookup sites is that the women using these sites also don't want inexperienced men because precisely the reason you mentioned that the sex won't be great and they will have to do all the work.

Therefore its not so much the look that attracts the female users but the impression the dude is "experienced" so can satisfy. This might be another reason why "bad boys" get a lot of female attention. The perception is the man is experienced so the sex will be good.



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11 Jun 2022, 9:30 pm

I'll put in my two cents worth since I'm drinking and I'm febrile. 8) ^

The times I've tried to fake an O, it was for myself rather than my partner.
Just going through the motions can be a turn-on because it gets your imagination going.
Orgasms are nearly 100% due to mental arousal anyway.


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11 Jun 2022, 9:35 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
The times I've tried to fake an O, it was for myself rather than my partner.
Just going through the motions can be a turn-on because it gets your imagination going.
Orgasms are nearly 100% due to mental arousal anyway.


When you think about it, the entire human race might not be here is women didn't fake an orgasm.

Your point that its mental makes a lot of sense.



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11 Jun 2022, 9:39 pm

The mind is our biggest erogenous zone.
It's all about the Amygdala -- our fear and fight / flight centre.

Personally I can't get off if I'm not thinking the right thing.
It doesn't matter what my guy's doing.


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