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I mean women turn down guys in high school because they arent popular and/or cool. Later on they drop the cool ones because the cool ones have nothing to offer and they a broke asses or struggling.
So say there is a guy who's been turned down by girls in high school or college and all the great sh**. Then he comes to a point in his life where he is struggling, a lot of women arent going to want to be bothered with him, or help him get on his feet, until he does it himself and starts making money. When that guy starts making money, if he is stupid and naive he will pcick up the first gorgeous girl that comes his way, if he thinks back to the times where there were no women helping him get it together while he was trying hard to, he will say to himself "What do these women have to offer me except some p****?" "Where these or any women on my side when I was struggling and appeared to be a bum just because?" "Did any girls give me a chance when I was trying hard in school and trying harder than all those other jerks that they dropped?"

"Who are these women?...wait hell no Im going to find one who is not for my money that maybe hard, but I'll wait, and also Im not going to go around acting rich and flashing hundreds all around, I'm going to act like a bum and see who the sincere women are."

Very few women wanna help men get it together when they are trying, but when the man has it together, they want him to fix all their problems by giving him some stanky ass p****, something that every woman has, whther its good or not.

Women like famous guys, cute or not, but if those guys arent famous they wouldnt even look their way.
Men go for pretty girls famous or not. If those women arent famous and still pretty, guys will talk to her.

Stupid men chase p****. p**** is the only thing women have to offer to men.
Stupid/clever women chase money. As i learned in psychology women are attracted to men that they can gain resources from (like money).

Right now I'm doing it all by myself. The only woman thats by my side is my mom, and she will be the FIRST woman in my life to get any of my money or what ever I have to offer, because I can trust her. Other women I cant trust. Women do nothing for me, they use their beauty to get what they want. Rich guys will date a broke ass woman for some vagina. Rich women would not date a broke man. If we took away sex appeal away from women, then they wouldnt be anything.
This is why unattractive women are treated like a fly on the wall, but a beautiful woman is treated like a shooting star flying through the sky.

So? what do women have to offer from the day they are born til the day they are dead?

-sex appeal, until it dies off.

what do men always have to offer from the day they are born til the day they are dead?

-Nothing, unless they are famous or rich

Thats why Ana Nicole Smith went out with that old guy, not because she loved him, because he had money. he went out with her becuase she had some p****.

Hopefully some wonderful women is not too far off in your future who will change your outlook.

p.s. when she comes your way, let me know if she has a sister ;p

That is very very angry writing.

That attitude and language would make me run the other way and avoid you as much as possible. I'm sorry you are having such a rough time.
You are 17, so you are hanging around people when they are their worst. Graduate as soon as you can, and maybe life will improve.

Except it doesnt... women are nicer after high school, yes, but there's a lot fewer of them around (at least single women anyway)... unless you go to a college with some rediculously high ratio of women to men, you're not going to find anyone...

The longer I live, the more grateful I am that I discovered my husband when I did. I see my children and other people's children having such a hard time finding a spouse. I know that if my husband died (who likes my quirky ways) I would never find another man willing to marry me. Some men have told my husband they are glad they aren't married to me. It's tough. It is. For both sexes.

Well, the reason I rant on here is because my family doesnt understand why I worry about this stuff. So i just come on here. i hope you guys are telling the truth about and are right about all this stuff that it is just high school.

But you guys are a great support group

You are quite correct however very cynical. Don't worry, you'll meet a girl that'll knock your socks off! And wether that goes right or wrong doesn't matter because then you will have known love.

That's high school for you. High school is like a microcosm of working society. However, while some boys and girls will grow up to behave in an identical manner to what they did in high school i.e. only date popular people with something to offer, some will realise that being popular, rich and stunningly handsome/beautiful is not the be all and end all.



These are probably women best to be avoided if this is the way they are. But not all of us are like this you know.



Don't 'act' like anything! Just be who you are and do what comes naturally, but yeah, at the same time don't go flashing cash around either.



Well if this is the way you are going to refer to women then you are going to end up alone. If a man where to speak this chauvinistically to me, quite frankly, I'd run a mile to spare my feelings i.e. so that I don't get hurt. The way you talk here is almost as though you think women don't have them. Well we do! I will give you my own personal example.

I am currently seeing this wonderful, caring gorgeous (in my opinon, my taste isn't everybody else's) guy and have been for nearly three years. We met owing to mutual friends and have been inseparable ever since. We love each other's company, he makes me laugh (and apparently, I make him laugh too) and we both support each other as we are in an equal relationship. Oops, looks like I forgot to mention in the first instance that he is disabled to the point where he is unable to work and needs help with his illnesses. Hence, as you might have worked out jemir1234, he won't have a lot of money as he is on state benefits, so I earn just over 4 times the amount he does and I'm not exactly rolling in it either. So what is it you think I might be 'getting out of it' if he has no money? What could a woman like me possibly want with him? I can give you my answer - him. Simple as that because I actually love him. Oh, and just so's you know, he was disabled when I first met him as opposed to it being something that has happened since starting a relationship with him. So I already knew what I was getting myself and him into.

Plus I also feel that you are being very severe upon your own sex by implying that only famous and rich men will have something to offer women. My boyfriend is neither of these things, and yet he can offer me more than what they can - true affection and love. That's better than money if you ask me.



Although I don't exactly consider myself to be rich, guess what? I date a broke man!! !! And I love every inch of his broke ass!! !!



Might I suggest that if you want to get a girlfriend you don't make remarks like this? Besides, beauty and sex appeal is in the eye of the beholder and that doesn't just apply to men. It applies to women as well.

What I will say is that I'm sorry if anything I said appeared to be a bit harsh, but I have been very hurt by men in the past and yet I don't then generalise them and say that they all twats just looking for a bit of vagina. Because not all men are like that either!! Young men might be like this as might young women, but it's because they haven't grown up yet, that's all. So stuff like commitment, proper relationships etc are not going to be a priority for them necessarily.

I think your views are very, very skewed:\

I also think you should have a bit more respect for women, 'cause if you think you're going to get into a deep relationship with that attitude, well, good luck.
Where did you get that women like guys flashing around $100 bills? TV?
If anything, most girls would probably feel very uncomfortable, especially in this modern world where being independent and self sufficient is a precious thing for women.

And saying we only have, as you put it "'p*****' to offer", is basically caveman speak.
We are human beings just like you, we have our own thoughts, interests, passions etc. and we are capable of caring and giving love and joy to those we love. We are SO MUCH more than just a carrier for female genitals.

Perhaps you've had a bunch of drawbacks when it comes to relationships with girls (whether it's a friendship, casual chat or love), but
not all of us are like that, just like the fact that not all men are bastards.
Please take that into consideration, you're only 17 and have probably met just a fraction of a percentage of all the women around you.
You cannot judge ALL the women on this globe, just because of a few experiences or 'observations' you've encountered.

I get the idea that jemir was just a little pissed off when he posted that, and this is just a rather big rant... I know I would be ranting about women if I were pissed off, except it would be about how manipulative they are and how they are soulless and can't love someone for who they are... yes I understand that such is not true for any but a small percentage, but that small percentage must have been concentrated in my high school, because pretty much all the women there tried to manipulate me into anything they could...

Angry post, but true. Men are, and always have been, attracted to a woman's sex appeal, & women, to men's social status. It's nature.

However, real society does not operate like a giant herd the way it does in high school. People aren't clumped in a huge forced mass & have the freedom to associate with whom they like. Chances are, you'll never have to deal with the kinds of people you didn't care for in high school other than in basic interaction. This goes for women too, & when dealing in depth with only women who choose to associate with you, your chances to find someone compatible go way up.

IDk. i think you guys are right. all I can go off is my experiences though, so I dont know what else to think about dating, But I think you guys know more than me, so dont get offended and if you do than thats you, and if you let getting offended cause you not to like me, then thats your problem

I'm 35 out of High School 17 years on the 9th and things aren't that much different from how he describes around here.

Ouch >_<

Well can't say I haven't ranted and generalized before in highschool, use to be both genders though.

Anyway I think it got better after I graduated from highschool. Although it still took a while for me to function in the real world without seeing it like a highschool full of kids ready to label me. I think it even made me more insecure when it came to friendships and relationships.....aside from aspergers. I know I've met NTs that have felt the same way.

I'd stay a little away from the media and the way these ubber socialites talk. That isn't the way the world runs and women are not sheeple who are clumped into these simple categories. The status thing is very far fetched, my sister makes a lot more money than her boyfriend and her boyfriend isn't much of a chatter box like herself.

This is just my opinion of course and isn't by any stretch of the imagination intended to offend you, if you don't agree with it, then maybe part of your problem is the way in which you present yourself. This post, like most of your other posts, isn't indicative of other people, it's merely a reflection of you. When talking of your ideal partner, the most important charactaristics for you were appearance and sexual experience. You also post a lot about sex. In a sense, the anger in this post, is being directed at yourself and anyone like yourself, it's extremely self-defeating.

I mean honestly, what sort of female would want to be with you, while you're telling her she has nothing to offer you except for sex appeal? You're pretty much saying as soon as you get her pregnant or as soon as she's older you're going to leave her for someone more attractive and younger. Of course, you might not actually feel this way, but what you are writing in your posts, whatever the reason you have these opinions, are suggesting this.

Of course girls like money and a successful guy, girls like to feel safe. Money and a successful partner = safe. Of course, you don't need to have money or to be successful to keep someone from harm, you just need to proove to someone that you can keep them safe.


There are many women who help men "get it together". I remember reading a story about a fat mexican man who could not leave his bed because he was too fat. He is now married to the nurse who was looking after him. He obviously told her things were going to change, that he was going to try and change things, that he was going to have a job and a house and that he was going to have a good life. She obviously believed him.