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19 Dec 2010, 8:28 am

this is a reallly long post, which mostly serves as an outlet. If you feel like reading it, or offering any advice i want to thank you in advance.
i dated this guy for a very short period of time (5 days!! !) and things went horribly wrong. he doesn't want to talk to me again, ever, and i'm wondering if something really obvious flew over my head? I'm devastated and I feel so stupid.

he was in my math class at the beginning of this semester, and i thought he was really, really cute. i also saw him on okcupid because he viewed my profile and i recognized him right away. well, i finally messaged him a little over a week ago with something clever and witty about the class being boring and such. he replied, and he seemed very interested in talking to me. he gave me his phone number right away and found me on facebook. he also told me to "stop going to the library during break and hang out with him instead" some of the things he said made him seem really obsessive and desperate. (but that's so much better than being ostracized.. i'll get to that in a bit)

so we hung out the next day at school, and of course i froze up and couldn't adequately communicate with him. right away though, he seemed like an a**hole. i made a comment about how there were a lot of people in the parking lot to try to cue him in that i might be feeling socially anxious and might want to leave, and he was just like "yup." i apologized for being so quiet and he said it was ok. i wasn't expecting him to want to hang out with me anymore after that, and i was surprised when he texted me in class later and offered me a ride home after school.

so we hang out after school, and we grab some food at some sandwich place. i payed for my own food. later he texts me asking me if it was a date (keep in mind this was the first day we met) and i was starting to feel really overwhelmed at that point. i just told him i wanted to get to know him more.

(the next 3-4 times we hang out, it goes well. we don't kiss or anything, but we hold hands at the movies and spend a lot of time talking in his car) he seems so desperate to be with me, but he seems almost...irritated most of the time. i gathered that he just sounds that way with everyone after seeing him talk that way to his friends.

And so this is where things start careening out of control:

-we go to a party that his friends invited us to
-he seems a little short with me and grouchy before we even get to the door
-i have a few drinks and smoke a bowl. i get f****d up and also really paranoid. when we sit outside on the porch, i start prattling on about all this personal, depressing s**t like a MORON. i had no control over my actions. i start telling him about how ive tried to get diagnosed with AS, and then argue with him when he says he disagrees, and i just talk about other random s**t until he gets up and leaves me in mid-sentence. he was THAT annoyed. *facepalm*
-i follow him inside a few minutes later, and he's obviously annoyed that i came inside. i tell him i'm going home and he walks me home. i continue talking about BS, but it's not about AS or anything super embarrassing. we depart at my door.

The next day...
we have an argument on AIM, which results in him deleting me on facebook and refusing to talk to me again, ever.
-he mentions that i don't appear to have party ettiquette, since I apparently went around asking people for their alcohol. i guess that was pretty annoying, but i don't remember it.
-i apologize and tell him that i was really high and didn't know what i was doing. and that i was sorry for making him look bad.
-he grudgingly seems to forgive me. "well from now on, it will be ok"
-he mentions that he was pretty peeved and i tell him i noticed
-i get really upset that he seems so condemning over what i'd consider a small thing, so i tell him we shouldn't go on anymore dates :X
-i make some sarcastic, self-deprecating comment about why it's so hard for me to find a boyfriend. he says he doesn't like that i'm giving him a guilt trip and i just sign off, i've lost it
-he deletes me on facebook instantaneously

I write him an apology for my bad behavior at the party and for being rude

he never replies.

So what the hell happened....? 8O :(



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19 Dec 2010, 8:46 am

You probably scared him with getting drunk and high.
Doesn't make the best impression.



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19 Dec 2010, 9:23 am

madbirdgirl wrote:
... we hung out the next day at school ... right away though, he seemed like an a**hole.
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i start telling him about how ive tried to get diagnosed with AS, and ... he says he disagrees ...

He has issues of his own and has now run away from being even indirectly reminded.


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19 Dec 2010, 10:49 am

leejosepho wrote:
He has issues of his own and has now run away from being even indirectly reminded.


Bit of a hasty assumption seeing as we know nothing about him.

If anything OP, it's more likely to do with this.

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You probably scared him with getting drunk and high.


Not that there is anything wrong with this. But what's probably happened is that in his mind he unfairly put you on a pedestal and the moment you've done something he doesn't approve of, he has then changed his mind about you. It's harsh but you'd be surprised how many people can do that.

It doesn't sound like he dislikes you, but more of a case that you didn't live up to his (unfair) expectations. Now he is burying his head in the sand and taking the easy way out by ceasing all contact with you. Best to just let this one go.


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19 Dec 2010, 11:13 am

Yeah, I've seen this before. If a guy is acting impatient like that, he is just waiting for you to let him down, and then he has an excuse to wallow in self pity because you didn't live up to how he saw you in his head. If not 5 days, it would have been 7. Don't worry about it.



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19 Dec 2010, 12:32 pm

Mindslave was right. This guy was looking for an excuse to ditch you, that and he most likely has no clue what he wants in a woman. He sounds immature. But, your actions with the pot were also immature. But, he did invite you the party, and he should have expected there to be weed. Did he ask if you were into that kind of stuff? Is he into that kind of stuff? By the way, I have never smoked cannabis, had drugs or drank alcohol.


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19 Dec 2010, 1:40 pm

Arman_Khodaei wrote:
Mindslave was right. This guy was looking for an excuse to ditch you, that and he most likely has no clue what he wants in a woman. He sounds immature. But, your actions with the pot were also immature. But, he did invite you the party, and he should have expected there to be weed. Did he ask if you were into that kind of stuff? Is he into that kind of stuff? By the way, I have never smoked cannabis, had drugs or drank alcohol.

He was the one who had the pot, and he offered me a few hits from his pipe. i just don't understand. he seemed to almost be stalking me at first, he came on so strong.
if i went to a party with a partner and they started acting like that, i would assume they were paranoid and i'd do anything i could to comfort them. not snub them.



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19 Dec 2010, 1:40 pm

Arman_Khodaei wrote:
Mindslave was right. This guy was looking for an excuse to ditch you, that and he most likely has no clue what he wants in a woman. He sounds immature. But, your actions with the pot were also immature. But, he did invite you the party, and he should have expected there to be weed. Did he ask if you were into that kind of stuff? Is he into that kind of stuff? By the way, I have never smoked cannabis, had drugs or drank alcohol.

He was the one who had the pot, and he offered me a few hits from his pipe. i just don't understand. he seemed to almost be stalking me at first, he came on so strong.
if i went to a party with a partner and they started acting like that, i would assume they were paranoid and i'd do anything i could to comfort them. not snub them.



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19 Dec 2010, 1:54 pm

This is why I don't drink. Or one of the reasons. The other is that I hate the taste of beer.

Maybe he didn't have deep, somewhat depressing emotional conversation in mind when he asked you out. Maybe he met someone else (if he's in school and on okcupid, there's at least a fair chance he's a bit of a playboy regardless of what he may have told you).

Fortunately, if you didn't already know him, you haven't lost anything. Keep looking and try to learn from your experience.



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19 Dec 2010, 3:35 pm

madbirdgirl wrote:
this is a reallly long post, which mostly serves as an outlet. If you feel like reading it, or offering any advice i want to thank you in advance.
i dated this guy for a very short period of time (5 days!! !) and things went horribly wrong. he doesn't want to talk to me again, ever, and i'm wondering if something really obvious flew over my head? I'm devastated and I feel so stupid.

he was in my math class at the beginning of this semester, and i thought he was really, really cute. i also saw him on okcupid because he viewed my profile and i recognized him right away. well, i finally messaged him a little over a week ago with something clever and witty about the class being boring and such. he replied, and he seemed very interested in talking to me. he gave me his phone number right away and found me on facebook. he also told me to "stop going to the library during break and hang out with him instead" some of the things he said made him seem really obsessive and desperate. (but that's so much better than being ostracized.. i'll get to that in a bit)

so we hung out the next day at school, and of course i froze up and couldn't adequately communicate with him. right away though, he seemed like an a**hole. i made a comment about how there were a lot of people in the parking lot to try to cue him in that i might be feeling socially anxious and might want to leave, and he was just like "yup." i apologized for being so quiet and he said it was ok. i wasn't expecting him to want to hang out with me anymore after that, and i was surprised when he texted me in class later and offered me a ride home after school.

so we hang out after school, and we grab some food at some sandwich place. i payed for my own food. later he texts me asking me if it was a date (keep in mind this was the first day we met) and i was starting to feel really overwhelmed at that point. i just told him i wanted to get to know him more.

(the next 3-4 times we hang out, it goes well. we don't kiss or anything, but we hold hands at the movies and spend a lot of time talking in his car) he seems so desperate to be with me, but he seems almost...irritated most of the time. i gathered that he just sounds that way with everyone after seeing him talk that way to his friends.

And so this is where things start careening out of control:

-we go to a party that his friends invited us to
-he seems a little short with me and grouchy before we even get to the door
-i have a few drinks and smoke a bowl. i get f**** up and also really paranoid. when we sit outside on the porch, i start prattling on about all this personal, depressing sh** like a MORON. i had no control over my actions. i start telling him about how ive tried to get diagnosed with AS, and then argue with him when he says he disagrees, and i just talk about other random sh** until he gets up and leaves me in mid-sentence. he was THAT annoyed. *facepalm*
-i follow him inside a few minutes later, and he's obviously annoyed that i came inside. i tell him i'm going home and he walks me home. i continue talking about BS, but it's not about AS or anything super embarrassing. we depart at my door.

The next day...
we have an argument on AIM, which results in him deleting me on facebook and refusing to talk to me again, ever.
-he mentions that i don't appear to have party ettiquette, since I apparently went around asking people for their alcohol. i guess that was pretty annoying, but i don't remember it.
-i apologize and tell him that i was really high and didn't know what i was doing. and that i was sorry for making him look bad.
-he grudgingly seems to forgive me. "well from now on, it will be ok"
-he mentions that he was pretty peeved and i tell him i noticed
-i get really upset that he seems so condemning over what i'd consider a small thing, so i tell him we shouldn't go on anymore dates :X
-i make some sarcastic, self-deprecating comment about why it's so hard for me to find a boyfriend. he says he doesn't like that i'm giving him a guilt trip and i just sign off, i've lost it
-he deletes me on facebook instantaneously

I write him an apology for my bad behavior at the party and for being rude

he never replies.

So what the hell happened....? 8O :(


I think you two just have a conflict of personalities. Sure, you messed up at the party, but a lot of guys would have brushed that off because a lot of people do stupid things at parties where there's alcohol and pot. I'm willing to bet he's one of those people who thinks too much about what others think of them, and so gets embarrassed really easily. I'm willing to bet that he's short with others because he himself is as judgmental as he worries other people to be...much like the kid who doesn't want to wear a sweater his mom made him to school because it embarrasses him, and would also think poorly of a kid who wore a similar sweater.

Now I have to point a few things out

madbirdgirl wrote:
-i apologize and tell him that i was really high and didn't know what i was doing. and that i was sorry for making him look bad.
-he grudgingly seems to forgive me. "well from now on, it will be ok"
-he mentions that he was pretty peeved and i tell him i noticed
-i get really upset that he seems so condemning over what i'd consider a small thing, so i tell him we shouldn't go on anymore dates :X
-i make some sarcastic, self-deprecating comment about why it's so hard for me to find a boyfriend. he says he doesn't like that i'm giving him a guilt trip and i just sign off, i've lost it
-he deletes me on facebook instantaneously


He may have meant "from now it, it will be ok" because he was planning on breaking it off anyway, but we can't really say that for certain because you blew it off before he could clarify what he had intended that to mean, by saying "i tell him we shouldn't go on any more dates".

Then you said something that made him feel like you were trying to guilt trip him. Men hate that because it's emotional manipulation. Most women hate that too. By this point he probably concludes that the dynamics between you two are such that he could not possibly get along with you, and that is that.

But I have a question. When you were standing with him and apologized for being so quite, was he quite as well or was he talking to you and you were giving short answers? If he was quite as well, why should you be sorry for being quite? He has half of the responsibility for the conversation.



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19 Dec 2010, 6:42 pm

OP, I think he did feel guilty, but not because you were trying to "guilt trip" him about your inability to keep a bf. I think he felt guilty because he got you f#cked up at the party (he was the one who offered you the weed), and then didn't take care of you when you got a little too high and/or drunk, which resulted in you embarrassing yourself and him. (And yes, because he was your escort to the party, he offered you the pot, they were his friends - it was most definitely on him to take care of you when you were wasted.) Rather than acting like an adult and taking care of you at the party and/or apologizing to you for not taking care of you at the party - he put it all on you. Shame on him.

Also, based on the details in your post, I'm inclined to agree with @leejosepho: I think he has his own issues. At the very least, someone who treats you the way he did at the party is not someone who is worthy of your trust, or your respect. My assessment (and I hope you believe it): it's not you - it's him.


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19 Dec 2010, 9:25 pm

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if i went to a party with a partner and they started acting like that, i would assume they were paranoid and i'd do anything i could to comfort them. not snub them.


Not to be a prude but you were kinda responsible for your own behavior at the party. The NICE thing for him to do if he cared would be to take care of you, but if you were so intoxicated you can't remember your own supposed behavior (asking for alcohol from everyone) why expect him to be any less?

I agree, a caring "partner" in a stable relationship would do that. You're in highschool.. and you guys went out 3 or 4 times, a period where people put on their "best" face to impress in a relationship and you already realized he was coming off as an ass. It'll always get worse before it gets better.

Plus you're in school? Highschool? Not to be cynical.. but BE cynical. You'd better both know and trust your bf a lot before putting yourself in that type of situation.

Anyway, he's an immature irreverent kid, you probably gained so much more than you lost just by him dropping off your facebook list.



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19 Dec 2010, 9:47 pm

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OP, I think he did feel guilty, but not because you were trying to "guilt trip" him about your inability to keep a bf. I think he felt guilty because he got you f#cked up at the party (he was the one who offered you the weed), and then didn't take care of you when you got a little too high and/or drunk, which resulted in you embarrassing yourself and him. (And yes, because he was your escort to the party, he offered you the pot, they were his friends - it was most definitely on him to take care of you when you were wasted.) Rather than acting like an adult and taking care of you at the party and/or apologizing to you for not taking care of you at the party - he put it all on you. Shame on him.

Also, based on the details in your post, I'm inclined to agree with @leejosepho: I think he has his own issues. At the very least, someone who treats you the way he did at the party is not someone who is worthy of your trust, or your respect. My assessment (and I hope you believe it): it's not you - it's him.

Yeah, I sensed he knew it wasn't all my fault, but he was trying to make it out to be that way. and I agree with Chronos that he has his own issues and he does seem to care a little too much about what other people think.
It would've helped if he at least hugged me or showed some indication of wanting me there. He probably would've made a terrible bf. He did tell me once that I make him extremely nervous but I almost think he was lying about that.



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19 Dec 2010, 9:49 pm

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if i went to a party with a partner and they started acting like that, i would assume they were paranoid and i'd do anything i could to comfort them. not snub them.


Not to be a prude but you were kinda responsible for your own behavior at the party. The NICE thing for him to do if he cared would be to take care of you, but if you were so intoxicated you can't remember your own supposed behavior (asking for alcohol from everyone) why expect him to be any less?

I agree, a caring "partner" in a stable relationship would do that. You're in highschool.. and you guys went out 3 or 4 times, a period where people put on their "best" face to impress in a relationship and you already realized he was coming off as an ass. It'll always get worse before it gets better.

Plus you're in school? Highschool? Not to be cynical.. but BE cynical. You'd better both know and trust your bf a lot before putting yourself in that type of situation.

Anyway, he's an immature irreverent kid, you probably gained so much more than you lost just by him dropping off your facebook list.

Yeah, I'm starting to realize that he's probably kind of immature and not stable, caring "boyfriend" material. I'm actually in college though, haha. I'm 19 and he's also 19.



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19 Dec 2010, 10:07 pm

Greatsharkbite wrote:
Not to be a prude but you were kinda responsible for your own behavior at the party. The NICE thing for him to do if he cared would be to take care of you, but if you were so intoxicated you can't remember your own supposed behavior (asking for alcohol from everyone) why expect him to be any less?

I agree, a caring "partner" in a stable relationship would do that. You're in highschool.. and you guys went out 3 or 4 times, a period where people put on their "best" face to impress in a relationship and you already realized he was coming off as an ass. It'll always get worse before it gets better.


Dude, I'm all for everyone taking responsibility for their own behavior, but I think his responsibility outweighs hers in this instance. He invited her to the party (where she didn't know anyone), he got her high, and he didn't reign her in when she began acting inappropriately. I don't believe I'd have to be someone's partner in order to help them out. Honestly, I'd wouldn't be that indifferent to someone I just met. Don't people who smoke weed live by any kind of code any more?


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19 Dec 2010, 11:12 pm

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I'm actually in college though, haha. I'm 19 and he's also 19.


Oh my mistake then. I tried to confirm your age.. which would've possibly made what I posted more pertinent (in my opinion). But 19 is still young, and when it comes to dating, people can still be immature at that age. There more than likely will be other guys.



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Dude, I'm all for everyone taking responsibility for their own behavior, but I think his responsibility outweighs hers in this instance. He invited her to the party (where she didn't know anyone), he got her high, and he didn't reign her in when she began acting inappropriately. I don't believe I'd have to be someone's partner in order to help them out. Honestly, I'd wouldn't be that indifferent to someone I just met. Don't people who smoke weed live by any kind of code any more?



I say his responsibility does outweigh hers, but it wasn't on him to take care of her. (Not that i'm trying to defend him in the least, I do not want OP to hook back up with him and she's not over him yet, any push towards that is harmful imo.)

I mean tbh, its kinda moot, I mean she shouldn't be embarrassed getting drunk or high in a party where other people were drunk and high I.E. her friend. Also being real, it already wasn't adult of him to offer the weed to her in that situation, it'd be unrealistic to expect adult behavior like "making sure she doesn't say anything embarrassing" to follow.