How to tell if a woman is interested
I thought this may be useful for men trying to find out what women are attracted to them.
Have you noticed that when you're around people you feel attracted to you feel different? Well I read people are supposed to give off body language when they feel attracted to others versus not, even if some people are more or less than others. I found out there was a peer-review study where they had hidden cameras at a singles event. They found most of the time when the men asked women on dates, the women sent the men subtle body language hints (often subconscious) beforehand. Most of the time the men were rejected the women didn't give off any signals. Also, the women who sent out more signals were more likely to be asked, and overall were more likely to send signals in situations where it was appropriate to flirt. Apparently there are other peer-review studies where they found similar results.
Then I came across some body language signals that I think may be useful to know. I heard you're supposed to look for patterns among them (multiple types) and within the context of the situation, rather than just seeing one body language signal and freaking out. It also doesn't guarantee but instead is supposed to be a powerful tool, since it makes sense to not miss out on opportunities by being oblivious that there are women indeed interested while at the same time blowing your confidence by trying with those who don't have interest.
I read about some body language that is often supposed to be more done without thinking than intentional, and even sometimes very brief. Each one is not supposed to apply to all women but instead covers many kinds of body language:
She may sit up straight/perk up when the man walks into the room, perhaps all of a sudden shoulders back and chest out. Or in some situations she may try an attractive pose. If two women are talking to each other and young, they may peek at the man and giggle or might even cuddle with each other and point. Older women may whisper to each other in a more sophisticated way.
A woman feeling attracted to a man may look "down and away" and then within the next minute look back at the man, as opposed to looking to the side or up and away (up and away means "not interested" and to the side is a maybe or maybe not). She may peek at the man over a book or something else she's looking at. She may give him repeated sidelong glances.
When she notices the man, she may adjust her clothing or remove some like she thinks its warm in the room. She may let a shoe dangle on her foot or toes, which apparently isn't supposed to be as likely around a man she doesn't care about. She may try to subtly show off with her legs, perhaps pull her skirt up to show more leg or some other way to draw attention with them. She may raise an arm, putting her hand behind her head, and flash her underarm.
We all have personal space zones, and she may stand or sit closer than one normally would. Or if not her body, she may do it with a limb or object she's using. She may try to innocently touch the man, maybe the hand or arm. Or if she can't do that she may try to lean toward him and into his personal space.
She may tug or play with the jewelry she's wearing. She may rest her head on her knuckles with her palm facing toward the man rather than toward herself. She may try to expose her neck, or pull her hair aside in the process. She may primp in front of the guy. She may use a hand to caress herself while the guy's watching. She may play with her hair.
If she's hanging out with the man, she may act goofy. She may also do a shoulder scrunch, acting like a little girl. She may try copying the man's body movements; when he moves to drink with one hand, she may try to mirror.
If she's really turned on or else intoxicated, she may lick her lips. She may use her finger to pet the rim of a bowl or the stem of a glass. While listening, she may stick a finger, swizzle stick, spoon, etc in her mouth.
i'm surprised they haven't made a sticky thread on this subject yet.
there are countless threads just like this. it would save on space ![]()
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Have you noticed that when you're around people you feel attracted to you feel different? Well I read people are supposed to give off body language when they feel attracted to others versus not, even if some people are more or less than others. I found out there was a peer-review study where they had hidden cameras at a singles event. They found most of the time when the men asked women on dates, the women sent the men subtle body language hints (often subconscious) beforehand. Most of the time the men were rejected the women didn't give off any signals. Also, the women who sent out more signals were more likely to be asked, and overall were more likely to send signals in situations where it was appropriate to flirt. Apparently there are other peer-review studies where they found similar results.
Then I came across some body language signals that I think may be useful to know. I heard you're supposed to look for patterns among them (multiple types) and within the context of the situation, rather than just seeing one body language signal and freaking out. It also doesn't guarantee but instead is supposed to be a powerful tool, since it makes sense to not miss out on opportunities by being oblivious that there are women indeed interested while at the same time blowing your confidence by trying with those who don't have interest.
I read about some body language that is often supposed to be more done without thinking than intentional, and even sometimes very brief. Each one is not supposed to apply to all women but instead covers many kinds of body language:
She may sit up straight/perk up when the man walks into the room, perhaps all of a sudden shoulders back and chest out. Or in some situations she may try an attractive pose. If two women are talking to each other and young, they may peek at the man and giggle or might even cuddle with each other and point. Older women may whisper to each other in a more sophisticated way.
A woman feeling attracted to a man may look "down and away" and then within the next minute look back at the man, as opposed to looking to the side or up and away (up and away means "not interested" and to the side is a maybe or maybe not). She may peek at the man over a book or something else she's looking at. She may give him repeated sidelong glances.
When she notices the man, she may adjust her clothing or remove some like she thinks its warm in the room. She may let a shoe dangle on her foot or toes, which apparently isn't supposed to be as likely around a man she doesn't care about. She may try to subtly show off with her legs, perhaps pull her skirt up to show more leg or some other way to draw attention with them. She may raise an arm, putting her hand behind her head, and flash her underarm.
We all have personal space zones, and she may stand or sit closer than one normally would. Or if not her body, she may do it with a limb or object she's using. She may try to innocently touch the man, maybe the hand or arm. Or if she can't do that she may try to lean toward him and into his personal space.
She may tug or play with the jewelry she's wearing. She may rest her head on her knuckles with her palm facing toward the man rather than toward herself. She may try to expose her neck, or pull her hair aside in the process. She may primp in front of the guy. She may use a hand to caress herself while the guy's watching. She may play with her hair.
If she's hanging out with the man, she may act goofy. She may also do a shoulder scrunch, acting like a little girl. She may try copying the man's body movements; when he moves to drink with one hand, she may try to mirror.
If she's really turned on or else intoxicated, she may lick her lips. She may use her finger to pet the rim of a bowl or the stem of a glass. While listening, she may stick a finger, swizzle stick, spoon, etc in her mouth.
Do you have a source? I just posted another thread asking this question today.
I have read this particular quotation you are sharing (you should have given credit to the source, though) and I find most of it accurate and when I read it the first time some of it was a sheer revelation, except the following one:
When I read that I became very sad because in HS the ONLY time that happened was with a girl I'd known since she was 8, and I always had imagined that the laughing she and her friend were doing when pointing at me after my "crush" had whispered something in the ear of the other girl was her saying how stupid or un-manly or sensitive, or short, or shy, or fat, or whatever they might have found wrong/inferior about me (I was seeing them as laughing AT me rather than WITH me).
So just knowing I could have asked her out but blew it by misinterpreting it makes me really mad with myself - mind you in a perfect world she would have had the nerve to come talk with me at that moment. Mind you what probably set this laughter up was that first of all in my HS they did not generally put people in classes together that had gone to elementary/middle school together so we had not seen each other in about three years, and second of all her mom and my mom went to church together (that when I was 9 or 10) and one night after the Wednesday service (Christian Scientist mid-week thing) they had come to our house and while there the girl said she had to use the bathroom, and after I told her I did also but insisted she went first (me the chivalrous dude), she said we should both just go in at the same time and watch each other pee - I expressed the usual "uh, not cool" thing young men are supposed to say, but she, being liberated, said it was ok, that God made girls and boys different, but that it was ok to look at the opposite sex's nude bodies, that there was nothing wrong with this and society's rules were just old-fashioned and hung-up.
Why I took their laughter wrong is beyond me but at that time I suffered from EXTREME low-self-esteem so I guess I was just suffering from a delusion. I wish I had a time machine because she was REALLY cute and fun to be around.
Here are some sources:
Here's a link that reviews some of the peer-review sources out there http://www.onlinedatingmagazine.com/col ... age.html#1
For the particular body language patterns that I posted above there's an amazon.com book http://www.amazon.com/Undercover-Sex-Si ... 628&sr=1-1 Some of the Amazon.com reviewers said they didn't like the cover of the book because it gave the wrong impression of what it's about, but it does a good jobon talking about signals which women may not even be aware that they're giving off (automatic and semi-conscious), and even has references at the back.
For some scholarly sources I came across, which talk about women sending body language signals quite often before being hit on:
Moore, M.M. (1985) "Nonverbal Courtship Patterns in Women: Context and Consequences." Ethology and Sociobiology, 6:237-247.
Moore, Monica (1995). "Courtship Signaling and Adolescents: 'Girls Just Wanna Have Fun'?". The Journal of Sex Research, 32(4), 319-328.
http://www.jstor.org/stable/3813356
Grammer, K., Kruck, K., Juette, A. & Fink, B. (2000) Non-verbal behaviour as courtship signals: the role of control and choice in selecting partners. Evolution and Human Behaviour, 21, 371-390.
Abstract at http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_o ... b1f4ce2b23
Grammar, Karl (1990). Strangers meet: Laughter and nonverbal signs of interest in opposite-sex encounters. Journal of Nonverbal Behavior, 14(4), 209-236.
Abstract at http://www.springerlink.com/content/x813q68424g46550/
Then I also found this interesting http://www.sirc.org/publik/flirt.html , which even talks about using body language to test the waters on your part.
Last edited by NicksQuestions on 21 Oct 2009, 6:59 pm, edited 1 time in total.
I know those who study flirting say making eye contact (not staring, too long) and smiling is a good way to test the waters.
Something to consider, if they look back at you after immediately looking away, that could be a good sign. That book I mentioned said if she looks down and away, then looks back at you again within the next 45 seconds could be a good sign. Sometimes when women don't know men as well they may look away, but still feel attracted and look back again to see if he's still looking. This is opposed to looking up and away (probably not interested), or to the side and away (could be either interested or not). Again, it doesn't guarantee but is a good sign, and is good to look at patterns among the signals, the context of the situation, and to test the waters with your own body language.
Also from the Social Issues Research Center http://www.sirc.org/publik/flirt.html :
"Your eyes are probably your most important flirting tool. We tend to think of our eyes mainly as a means of receiving information, but they are also extremely high-powered transmitters of vital social signals. How you look at another person, meet his or her gaze and look away can make all the difference between a successful, enjoyable flirtation and an embarrassing or hurtful encounter.
Eye contact – looking directly into the eyes of another person – is such a powerful, emotionally loaded act of communication that we normally restrict it to very brief glances. Prolonged eye contact between two people indicates intense emotion, and is either an act of love or an act of hostility. It is so disturbing that in normal social encounters, we avoid eye contacts of more than one second. Among a crowd of strangers in a public setting, eye contacts will generally last only a fraction of second, and most people will avoid making any eye contact at all.
This is very good news for anyone wishing to initiate a flirtation with an attractive stranger. Even from across a crowded room at a party, you can signal your interest in someone merely by making eye contact and attempting to hold your target's gaze for more than one second (not too much more, though, or you will seem threatening). If your target maintains eye contact with you for more than one second, the chances are that he/she might return your interest. If after this initial contact, your target looks away briefly and then looks back to meet your gaze a second time, you can safely assume that he/she is interested. If these eye contacts trigger a smile, you can approach your target with some confidence.
If, on the other hand, your target avoids making eye contact with you, or looks away after a fraction of a second and does not look back again, you should probably assume that your interest is not returned. There is still the possibility that your target is just a very shy person – and some females may be understandably wary of signalling any interest in male strangers. The only way to find out is by close observation of your target's behaviour towards others. Does she consistently avoid direct eye-contact with men? Does he seem nervous, anxious or aloof in his interactions with other women? If so, your target's reluctance to meet your gaze may be nothing personal, and it might be worth approaching, but only with considerable caution. "
Here's a link that reviews some of the peer-review sources out there http://www.onlinedatingmagazine.com/col ... age.html#1
For the particular body language patterns that I posted above there's an amazon.com book http://www.amazon.com/Undercover-Sex-Si ... 628&sr=1-1 Some of the Amazon.com reviewers said they didn't like the cover of the book because it gave the wrong impression of what it's about, but it does a good jobon talking about signals which women may not even be aware that they're giving off (automatic and semi-conscious), and even has references at the back.
For some scholarly sources I came across, which talk about women sending body language signals quite often before being hit on:
Moore, M.M. (1985) "Nonverbal Courtship Patterns in Women: Context and Consequences." Ethology and Sociobiology, 6:237-247.
Moore, Monica (1995). "Courtship Signaling and Adolescents: 'Girls Just Wanna Have Fun'?". The Journal of Sex Research, 32(4), 319-328.
http://www.jstor.org/stable/3813356
Grammer, K., Kruck, K., Juette, A. & Fink, B. (2000) Non-verbal behaviour as courtship signals: the role of control and choice in selecting partners. Evolution and Human Behaviour, 21, 371-390.
Abstract at http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_o ... b1f4ce2b23
Grammar, Karl (1990). Strangers meet: Laughter and nonverbal signs of interest in opposite-sex encounters. Journal of Nonverbal Behavior, 14(4), 209-236.
Abstract at http://www.springerlink.com/content/x813q68424g46550/
Then I also found this interesting http://www.sirc.org/publik/flirt.html , which even talks about using body language to test the waters on your part.
I would never noticed half of those things. Are there still such non-verbal behaviours when people are not completely strangers? Is it also dependant on the setting?
Yes, but that's next to impossible for many ASD women (and for women like me who also suffer from severe anxiety and social phobia). I can't NOT look away if I'm really attracted to a guy, unless I know him really well (which rarely happens).
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Yes, but that's next to impossible for many ASD women (and for women like me who also suffer from severe anxiety and social phobia). I can't NOT look away if I'm really attracted to a guy, unless I know him really well (which rarely happens).
I think I read somewhere that sometimes these signals can be ambiguous, leading to misinterpretations either way. The eye contact thing won't work for someone who is shy, not only aspies.
Yes, above it's mentioned that it doesn't guarantee 100% but rather a powerful tool. It mentioned that looking at one body language signal isn't enough, but rather supposed to look for multiple signals, and also the context of the situation. I found interesting that one of those studies mentioned woman body language is more likely in situations where it's appropriate to interact but not as likely in situations you can't, even if she's interested. I guess a personal analogy I can think of, when you see people talking to each other, they have a pattern of nodding their heads and may smile, but when they're listening to a public speaker where personal body language doesn't help the listener, he/she doesn't nod. So from that I would guess people are programmed to be more likely to have their automatic/subconscious nature happening when it is more appropriate to interact.
Yes, basically for strangers, and non-strangers. For example, the looking down and away often may happen if she doesn't know you as well. If you make eye contact and smile at a woman, it's natural she's going to look away if she doesn't know you too well. If she looks up and away, that's not a good sign. If she looks to the side, it could go either way, and then there's looking down and away and back within the next minute (good). If she maintains eye contact and smiles that's always a good sign.
Two of these signals are for when you walk in, possibly perk up or pose. Then there's the signals on personal space, which obviously you're no longer a complete stranger anymore. Then there's the one on how they'll act if hanging out with the guy. The other signals I would guess could either be if they're a stranger or know you well. Keep in mind the body language is more likely in situations where it's socially appropriate to interact, and less likely in others.
One thing to check out is http://www.sirc.org/publik/flirt.html which talks about how to approach people.
Yes, but that's next to impossible for many ASD women (and for women like me who also suffer from severe anxiety and social phobia). I can't NOT look away if I'm really attracted to a guy, unless I know him really well (which rarely happens).
The technique isn't perfect. I've certianly misread women staring into space thinking they were looking at me. Also likely passed over others in cases like yours. However, when a woman looks at me (or I think she does), it feels like I'm being invited to talk to her. Only with such an invitation would I have the confidence to approach.
If you can't hold eye contact, come up with some other way to extend an invitation.
Yes, but that's next to impossible for many ASD women (and for women like me who also suffer from severe anxiety and social phobia). I can't NOT look away if I'm really attracted to a guy, unless I know him really well (which rarely happens).
I think I read somewhere that sometimes these signals can be ambiguous, leading to misinterpretations either way. The eye contact thing won't work for someone who is shy, not only aspies.
Yes shy women (actually a large amount of of women who don't know you) naturally look away. Remember that it's how they look away combined with if they try to look back to see if you're still looking. That one book I mentioned said a lot of woman look away at first if they don't know you well. Then remember you're looking for patterns or multiple signals in one setting, rather than only one signal (sometimes people give one signal just by chance alone). You greatly increase your odds by looking at body language than not doing so.
Also consider:
In a later study(10), Moore found that female courtship behavior was so striking that a trained observer could use its frequency to predict with a high degree of accuracy the outcome of interactions between men and women! In addition, the frequency of signaling appeared to be the more important factor in eliciting approaches from men, overriding such attributes as physical attractiveness. Although a high signaling, beautiful woman would be the most likely to be approached by the man she had been signaling, a high signaling average attractiveness woman would be much more likely to be approached than her low signaling, beautiful counterpart.
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(10) Moore, M. M., & Butler, D. L. (1989). Predictive aspects of nonverbal courtship behavior in women. Semiotica, 3, 205-215."
http://www.onlinedatingmagazine.com/col ... age.html#1
If she looks "down and away" and back within the next minute, you're supposed to try making eye contact again and smiling (even if it's the second time smiling). She might act differently. (Also you're NOT supposed to stare while waiting for her to look back at you within the next minute, but rather look in the general direction, staring is seen as aggressive)
