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20 Jul 2010, 6:58 pm

Hello, Im a 16 year old and I have a question for the females. The "out of your league" analogy that gets thrown around all the time, does it really matter based on looks? Any information on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks



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20 Jul 2010, 7:34 pm

A lot of the time people use it for looks. Also social stance. Successful-ness etc. Shallowness.



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20 Jul 2010, 7:42 pm

No. I think most women will go for personality over looks. Atleast thats how I experience it. Its not like everyone is running around being all hot like the actors on tv, no matter who you are you always have a chance.
I can live with a guy not being flawless in looks, if he has the best personality.



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20 Jul 2010, 7:42 pm

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A lot of the time people use it for looks. Also social stance. Successful-ness etc. Shallowness.


That sounds about right.

Ever see the movie "The Invention of Lying?" When Jennifer Garner's character tells Ricky Gervais' character why she can't be with him, that pretty much sums it up.

The only difference between that world and ours is that people there are a lot more blunt. Equally as cruel, IMO.


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20 Jul 2010, 7:49 pm

Sivri wrote:
No. I think most women will go for personality over looks. Atleast thats how I experience it. Its not like everyone is running around being all hot like the actors on tv, no matter who you are you always have a chance.
I can live with a guy not being flawless in looks, if he has the best personality.


Are there personality leagues?


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20 Jul 2010, 8:05 pm

I take the "league" thing to mean the sum of one's looks, personality, fiscal stability, etc.


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20 Jul 2010, 8:27 pm

Moog wrote:
Sivri wrote:
No. I think most women will go for personality over looks. Atleast thats how I experience it. Its not like everyone is running around being all hot like the actors on tv, no matter who you are you always have a chance.
I can live with a guy not being flawless in looks, if he has the best personality.


Are there personality leagues?


I actually never thought about that. I don't really have much of a clue.. I mean, ive seen people that are like polar opposites of eachother, fall in love so..



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20 Jul 2010, 9:21 pm

Sivri wrote:
No. I think most women will go for personality over looks. Atleast thats how I experience it. Its not like everyone is running around being all hot like the actors on tv, no matter who you are you always have a chance.
I can live with a guy not being flawless in looks, if he has the best personality.
Unfortunately the females where I live act like they're on a tv show and the guys like me are the audience.



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21 Jul 2010, 4:04 am

KaiG wrote:
I take the "league" thing to mean the sum of one's looks, personality, fiscal stability, etc.


I'm very fiscally stable. I've had no money for as long as I can remember ;-)


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21 Jul 2010, 4:22 am

[quote]I actually never thought about that. I don't really have much of a clue.. I mean, ive seen people that are like polar opposites of eachother, fall in love so..[/quote]


I guess thats why they say opposites attract :P That does occasionaly happen most films like to portray it that way


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21 Jul 2010, 5:12 am

Mouldy wrote:
I guess thats why they say opposites attract :P That does occasionaly happen most films like to portray it that way


That's because relationships like that have inherent tension and drama. A story about two people who quite like each other and get on really well who then gradually deepen the love between them isn't exciting enough.


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21 Jul 2010, 6:39 pm

The concept of leagues implies people can be ranked and that that ranking is objective rather than subjective. If someone is judging another solely on looks, that's a very superficial criterion. I try to approach and talk to women of all types, and I really haven't found anything exceptional about "hotties" (they look good, yes, but this does not imply their personality is any good or that they're interesting people).



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21 Jul 2010, 7:47 pm

Moog wrote:
Mouldy wrote:
I guess thats why they say opposites attract :P That does occasionaly happen most films like to portray it that way


That's because relationships like that have inherent tension and drama. A story about two people who quite like each other and get on really well who then gradually deepen the love between them isn't exciting enough.


Sure it is, if done well. However, such couples tend to be the Beta Couple, even though that's not necessarily a bad thing, and usually helps them avoid pointless drama for drama's sake.


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23 Jul 2010, 10:21 pm

Strangely, I've had more attention from girls who would be considered "out of my league", than the ones I'm really interested in. I'm guessing it's the way I act around them - since I'm not really attracted to the supermodel type I probably come off less gawky than they're used to. I don't think women get hung up on whether you're "in their league" as much as men do.



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26 Jul 2010, 7:32 am

It's based on everything.



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27 Jul 2010, 1:38 am

Things I consider belonging in the "League" metaphor:

Native Intelligence

Social Class

Formal Education

Worldliness/Self education

Psychological Maturity/Health

Economic/Career status

Hygiene/Self-Care

Looks