My boyfriend wants a 'domestic disipline' relationship.

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04 Sep 2010, 4:47 am

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Uhm some of the things i do are; taking shortcuts through dangerous neighbourhoods, taking drugs on occasion, drink driving, getting into fights with people, selfharming


Well on the plus side your definatly scottish.



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04 Sep 2010, 5:05 am

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Uhm some of the things i do are; taking shortcuts through dangerous neighbourhoods, taking drugs on occasion, drink driving, getting into fights with people, selfharming


Well on the plus side your definatly scottish.


Haha, well he's English. Maybe he just can't handle the Scot. :roll:



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04 Sep 2010, 5:21 am

OK - the planet has more to go on - Sufi is steering in a new direction.

Nobody can fix you - you must want to do that your self.
Life is not a fairy tale where someone comes in to rescue you.
The harmful things you do are methods of trying to give yourself the illusion of control yourself, but you put yourself in danger instead.

Find yourself first and why you do these things. I am impressed you showed the responses to your BF. This indicates you trust him and there is more of the possibility that he is worried. BUT -- it is not for him to fix this, the responsibility is yours.

If you are not in counseling, then go.
You may also want to consider couples counseling so he may participate in your growth and help you by supporting you and not by being a white knight.
(I offer this on the basis of been there, done that)


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04 Sep 2010, 5:31 am

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Uhm some of the things i do are; taking shortcuts through dangerous neighbourhoods, taking drugs on occasion, drink driving, getting into fights with people, selfharming


Well on the plus side your definatly scottish.


Haha, well he's English. Maybe he just can't handle the Scot. :roll:


Us southern fairy's are lover's not fighters

But that is an impressive list of vice's. Not helpful if you want to get far in life. I can understand your other half's motivation to want to change your current lifestyle, but at the end of the day thats down to you he can only support you, he won't be able to impose it on you and have a relationship at the same time.

To be fair the chances are your relationship will have these clashes if you have a rough background and he's from a more affluent one. My step father grew up in a rough part of Glasgow and had a somewhat coloured past. So people are capable of changing and adapting their lifestyle to get on in life. But it depends if you want that?



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04 Sep 2010, 5:35 am

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Find yourself first and why you do these things. I am impressed you showed the responses to your BF. This indicates you trust him and there is more of the possibility that he is worried. BUT -- it is not for him to fix this, the responsibility is yours.


I do trust him 100% and i'm not very good at taking responsibility. I know I need to fix how I am, but it's difficult because i've been doing the same things for 5+ years and he is the first guy who has seen all of the things I do, and still loved me.

He said he'd help me anyway he could. Maybe something like coming with me to see someone would be more helpful? I really don't think I could go alone.



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04 Sep 2010, 5:38 am

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Uhm some of the things i do are; taking shortcuts through dangerous neighbourhoods, taking drugs on occasion, drink driving, getting into fights with people, selfharming


Well on the plus side your definatly scottish.


Haha, well he's English. Maybe he just can't handle the Scot. :roll:


Us southern fairy's are lover's not fighters

But that is an impressive list of vice's. Not helpful if you want to get far in life. I can understand your other half's motivation to want to change your current lifestyle, but at the end of the day thats down to you he can only support you, he won't be able to impose it on you and have a relationship at the same time.

To be fair the chances are your relationship will have these clashes if you have a rough background and he's from a more affluent one. My step father grew up in a rough part of Glasgow and had a somewhat coloured past. So people are capable of changing and adapting their lifestyle to get on in life. But it depends if you want that?


Yes. I want to change, but i'm stuck in a cycle of doing things like that - he gets mad at me because it's dangerous, then i go and do them again to ..i don't know.. show him i'm in control? even though i'm obviously not. :/



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04 Sep 2010, 6:02 am

Sometimes I feel redundant and silly to point out that you are only 20. From what I have seen a lot of big changes can happen between 20 and 25, if you want to get on with an adult life. I think this is why a lot of marriages fail, because of growth or stagnation in this age range. Now is the time to act and the fact that your BF is willing to support you is even better.


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He said he'd help me anyway he could. Maybe something like coming with me to see someone would be more helpful? I really don't think I could go alone.


BIG YES, if you can't go alone, then do it together - it could make you a stronger couple in the long run. - If you can't afford it, there is usually free help available, search it out.


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04 Sep 2010, 6:04 am

Well I guess if I were to do the arm chair psychology thing one could interpret that behaviour as pushing people away through a fear off being hurt from such close emotional attachment (again?)

So you may want to look more internally at your own sense of self and esteem issues you may have. Your other half may have good intentions but he will only make you become more stubborn and resistant if he imposes change upon you. In such situations a person needs to be built up to have a healthy and stable sense of self. If you don't have that then you will either submit and be in a more vulnerable state or resist and eventually he will loose patience with the situation and move on.



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04 Sep 2010, 6:09 am

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Well I guess if I were to do the arm chair psychology thing one could interpret that behaviour as pushing people away through a fear off being hurt from such close emotional attachment (again?)

So you may want to look more internally at your own sense of self and esteem issues you may have. Your other half may have good intentions but he will only make you become more stubborn and resistant if he imposes change upon you. In such situations a person needs to be built up to have a healthy and stable sense of self. If you don't have that then you will either submit and be in a more vulnerable state or resist and eventually he will loose patience with the situation and move on.


In the early days of our relationship i did try and push him away far more than I do now. But he stuck by me completely and now I feel like I can trust him.

This weekend we're going to try and see what help is available because nothing is changing by itself.
The advice is muchly appreciate. It's much easier to talk to people I don't know about these sort of things, than my friends who I still don't really trust about any of this stuff. Thank you.



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04 Sep 2010, 6:15 am

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I don't see how this could possibly end well.

Even if he has good intentions(which I doubt very seriously but I'll throw you a bone) it's just not going to end well. You are probably going to still keep making *mistakes* in his eyes and he can use that as an excuse to become increasingly critical of you. Why should a person with AS be in a relationship like this? You need someone who understands that you don't do these things on purpose. I don't even understand why you think it's OK for your boyfriend to WANT to discipline you. What does he get out of that? How can he possibly think you're sexy if he's treating you like his daughter? Is he older than you? I see nothing wrong with age gaps but this sounds sooooo weird.

I've had HINTS of this kind of behavior with two boyfriends in the past and i just distanced myself from them until the relationship ended. One broke up with me, I broke up with the other. one actually said, "you need to listen to me" about something, which is true and I do need to be attentive but it was about something trivial and he got bent out of shape about *weird* things. When someone talks to me that way I pretty much know that there isn't any hope because they don't see ME.

TBH I don't even know how you could really consider being with someone who used that term, though. He told you he wants to discipline you and hes OK with it. Where the hell is he coming from? That is not sexy lol. You should be having a GOOD TIME. There are problems to work on in relationships as well but the idea of him being your disciplinarian shouldn't be what the relationship is based on.



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04 Sep 2010, 6:24 am

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I don't see how this could possibly end well.

Even if he has good intentions(which I doubt very seriously but I'll throw you a bone) it's just not going to end well. You are probably going to still keep making *mistakes* in his eyes and I don't even understand why you think it's OK for your boyfriend to WANT to discipline you. What does he get out of that? How can he possibly think you're sexy if he's treating you like his daughter? Is he older than you? I see nothing wrong with age gaps but this sounds sooooo weird.

I've had HINTS of this kind of behavior with two boyfriends in the past and i just distanced myself from them until the relationship ended. One broke up with me, I broke up with the other. one actually said, "you need to listen to me" about something, which is true and I do need to be attentive but it was about something trivial and he got bent out of shape about *weird* things. When someone talks to me that way I pretty much know that there isn't any hope because they don't see ME.

TBH I don't even know how you could really consider being with someone who used that term, though. He told you he wants to discipline you and hes OK with it. Where the hell is he coming from? That is not sexy lol. You should be having a GOOD TIME. There are problems to work on in relationships as well but the idea of him being your disciplinarian shouldn't be what the relationship is based on.


They're mistakes in everyones eyes- it's not that he WANTS to, he just doesn't want me to keep doing things which are dangerous. He's 22, so not much older.

Of course I can consider being with him - he's never ever done anything to hurt me- probably the only person i know who hasn't hurt me.
We do have a good time, if we didn't, and i didn't enjoy being with him - i wouldn't be.

But anyway, the whole discipline thing is off the table now, because even if i'm a little uncomfortable with it, he wouldn't do a thing.



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04 Sep 2010, 7:34 am

emlion, if you know these things are dangerous, you should punish yourself.



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04 Sep 2010, 7:45 am

Laz wrote:
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Uhm some of the things i do are; taking shortcuts through dangerous neighbourhoods, taking drugs on occasion, drink driving, getting into fights with people, selfharming


Well on the plus side your definatly scottish.


Eeef yer wazinee behind tae pooter amma be tere down SOOTH tae shov it up yer fairy arse ye wee daftie.

To the nedette who's writing uncannily well, your bloke has a bad choice of words. You don't "punish" your gf as it would imply negative connotations. He also gives off this vibe that he's trying to dog train you to be his ideal b***h or something.



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04 Sep 2010, 7:50 am

IndispensablePG wrote:
Laz wrote:
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Uhm some of the things i do are; taking shortcuts through dangerous neighbourhoods, taking drugs on occasion, drink driving, getting into fights with people, selfharming


Well on the plus side your definatly scottish.


Eeef yer wazinee behind tae pooter amma be tere down SOOTH tae shov it up yer fairy arse ye wee daftie.

To the nedette who's writing uncannily well, your bloke has a bad choice of words. You don't "punish" your gf as it would imply negative connotations. He also gives off this vibe that he's trying to dog train you to be his ideal b***h or something.


he's really not. he's a lovely guy, just concerned for me. :)
i think he even regrets suggesting it now.
he really is a nice guy.



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04 Sep 2010, 8:08 am

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I don't think it's fair to judge the bf without full knowledge of the events leading up to this. Still, this does seem like a very bad idea. If you're having trouble with self-control, therapy might be helpful. Don't be afraid to ask people for help. Just be careful about giving up personal responsibility and independence.


Yea , the two sides of the story should be heard.

Or she should tell us what are the things she's doing.



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04 Sep 2010, 8:11 am

emlion wrote:
IndispensablePG wrote:
Laz wrote:
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Uhm some of the things i do are; taking shortcuts through dangerous neighbourhoods, taking drugs on occasion, drink driving, getting into fights with people, selfharming


Well on the plus side your definatly scottish.


Eeef yer wazinee behind tae pooter amma be tere down SOOTH tae shov it up yer fairy arse ye wee daftie.

To the nedette who's writing uncannily well, your bloke has a bad choice of words. You don't "punish" your gf as it would imply negative connotations. He also gives off this vibe that he's trying to dog train you to be his ideal b***h or something.


he's really not. he's a lovely guy, just concerned for me. :)
i think he even regrets suggesting it now.
he really is a nice guy.



That's the third time she's saying that and you ladies are keep yelling things like "LEAVE HIM, HE'S BAD , HE'S ABUSIVE..." ....maybe she's saying the truth about him, have you ever considered that?