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29 Nov 2010, 10:58 pm

So today was my big semi-annual date. She lives closer to downtown LA than I do so I suggested a fashionable coffee-house in West Hollywood. I spend a good part of my day trying on every single thing in my wardrobe in every possible combination (and I have a LOT of clothes) trying to get everything just right. I leave way early to allow for traffic. I get about 5 miles away and see a plume of smoke ahead on the freeway and lots of brake lights going off. Doesn't look good so I text my date that I am running a little late but will be there soon. About 30 minutes after our date was scheduled I call her to tell her that I will be another 15 minutes. She says that our meeting will have to be short because she has to leave in 30 minutes.

She only scheduled 1 hour for our date and didn't bother to tell me.

So I tell her to just leave, I turn around and go home and I get there 3 hours later.

So no date at all, even if I was there on time she still would have said "see you later" after 1 hour, after I had driven all that way...

What did I do to deserve this? I am doing everything I can to "put myself out there" like I am supposed to but all I do is get treated like sh!t...

Maybe I DO suck after all.



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29 Nov 2010, 11:10 pm

Although I don't know the details, it seems that she didn't schedule 1 hour, she just was mad that you are late. The only difference between a date and a job interview is that you might lose your clothes at the end of the date.



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29 Nov 2010, 11:22 pm

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Although I don't know the details, it seems that she didn't schedule 1 hour, she just was mad that you are late. The only difference between a date and a job interview is that you might lose your clothes at the end of the date.


You may be right, but she told me that she needed to visit an old high school friend whose father had died and she had an appointment at 8pm in Brentwood...

It was only 45 minutes...



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29 Nov 2010, 11:25 pm

It doesn't seem to me like there was any other motive behind this. Just seems like bad luck. A lot of people have to schedule their time, I wouldn't get offended. A lot of people don't have plenty of spare time. Can't you see it as someone made the time to meet up with you? Besides, if it went well you would arrange to meet up again, so it doesn't matter if its only an hour.



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30 Nov 2010, 12:47 am

These things happen, perhaps she's been stood up before so was immediately defensive? If she's only able to see you for an hour, trust me, it's less strain on her time to reschedule entirely, you don't know what else is happening in her life, and the fact she went out of her way to see you, even for just an hour, and wait around when you were running late indicates to me she really did want to see you.

Perhaps next time spend less time on clothes and try to arrive a bit early.



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30 Nov 2010, 1:27 am

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Perhaps next time spend less time on clothes and try to arrive a bit early.


He said he left way early to account for traffic, but even that wasn't enough. You can only plan so far ahead.



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30 Nov 2010, 1:28 am

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So today was my big semi-annual date. She lives closer to downtown LA than I do so I suggested a fashionable coffee-house in West Hollywood. I spend a good part of my day trying on every single thing in my wardrobe in every possible combination (and I have a LOT of clothes) trying to get everything just right. I leave way early to allow for traffic. I get about 5 miles away and see a plume of smoke ahead on the freeway and lots of brake lights going off. Doesn't look good so I text my date that I am running a little late but will be there soon. About 30 minutes after our date was scheduled I call her to tell her that I will be another 15 minutes. She says that our meeting will have to be short because she has to leave in 30 minutes.

She only scheduled 1 hour for our date and didn't bother to tell me.

So I tell her to just leave, I turn around and go home and I get there 3 hours later.

So no date at all, even if I was there on time she still would have said "see you later" after 1 hour, after I had driven all that way...

What did I do to deserve this?


You decided to live in L.A.

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I am doing everything I can to "put myself out there" like I am supposed to but all I do is get treated like sh!t...

Maybe I DO suck after all.


No, you just decided to live in L.A., the most congested city in the U.S., and possibly the shallowest, most self absorbed city in the world.

You seem to be a fairly handsome guy. Maybe you should move to a better city for singles though.



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30 Nov 2010, 1:42 am

I'd never want to live in LA/OC. And West Hollywood is the Castro of LA.

Sucks about the girl though, we somehow get the short end of the stick...



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30 Nov 2010, 4:02 am

Next time you'll have a better idea of what clothes to wear without having to go through them all, so that's nice.

Bad luck on the traffic. Reschedule? And maybe leave earlier next time to allow for congestion.

She might have deliberately gave you an hour in case you're really weird or bad company (which I'm sure you're not, but she doesn't know that).

An hour is quite a long time to give to an unknown quantity.


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30 Nov 2010, 5:54 am

Thanks everyone for the feedback (I'll just ignore the LA bashing)

I can only speculate as to her motives, but I still think that she should have told me that she only had one hour to meet, otherwise I would have rescheduled for a time when she was less busy.

I knew that traffic would be bad, and I left plenty of time for this. I could not have reasonably anticipated the car fire though.

It just seems like I've had an unusual extended streak of bad luck (this is not the only dating disaster I've had this week). I would settle for just one boring date that didn't involve some sort of petty humiliation or insult - is that too much to ask?



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30 Nov 2010, 6:04 am

I don't think you were humiliated or insulted... I think you should attempt to reframe what occurred as something more emotionally neutral; it really wasn't as bad as you are making out, unless I'm missing some detail.


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30 Nov 2010, 6:11 am

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I don't think you were humiliated or insulted... I think you should attempt to reframe what occurred as something more emotionally neutral; it really wasn't as bad as you are making out, unless I'm missing some detail.


You're probably right, I think I have unrealistically high expectations from dates because they are so rare. Still, this is the first time I've had to abort a date-in-progress - it seems like I'm always finding new ways that things could go wrong. Couldn't I just have a bit of good luck for once? Even if I don't deserve it? I've got enough going against me as it is...



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30 Nov 2010, 7:35 am

Grisha wrote:
I can only speculate as to her motives, but I still think that she should have told me that she only had one hour to meet, otherwise I would have rescheduled for a time when she was less busy.


I agree. I think she was very rude. But at the same time, she may have just been saving face. I mean, looking at it from her side, how does she know you were telling the truth and not making up an excuse to blow her off? Maybe other men have done that to her and she's overly sensitive to it. You never know.

If you're still interested in her, I would try to reschedule, just to show your sincerity. If she pulls the same or similar trick again, then forget her. But give her a chance to redeem herself.


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It just seems like I've had an unusual extended streak of bad luck (this is not the only dating disaster I've had this week). I would settle for just one boring date that didn't involve some sort of petty humiliation or insult - is that too much to ask?


No, it isn't too much to ask, but I think you said it right ... "bad luck", with emphasis on the "luck". I wouldn't call it a "disaster". Dating doesn't always go smoothly for anyone.

And look at it this way ... at least what happened was better than meeting her, really liking her and wanting to see her again, but having her not return the feelings. That's happened to me and it sucks.



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30 Nov 2010, 7:43 am

It just sounds like failure to plan from both sides. Her behavior does raise all kinds of questions: as in we don't know if she's a doctor, lawyer, or in some other profession where her time is in fact not fully her own (ie. that she wouldn't have had a choice). We also don't know how long you guys talked, if things ever warmed up on Match.com to where she showed a distinct interest in you vs. just agreeing to a date.

Mind you, I live in a major city but its one that's been on the population fall for decades so - I can just about get across town in 30 minutes given the right time of day. If I were in that situation and had to plan ahead, if it is considered common courtesy to leave early to get to a particular area of town to - say - shop, get something done that I needed to in order to know that I could get to the date on time, I'd do it. If not pre-planning can be a deal breaker and the girl in question proved that she was worth the trouble, I'd just be sure that I planned for aberrations - especially if they're common.

That said though, I think that's the only lesson going forward - not that you're a loser, just do things differently the next time. That and, if a girl is all the way across town, you may want to find someone who's cool enough to be understanding of just how far you need to travel and can understand if she calls you straight over from work and you don't get there for two or three hours? Otherwise, if someone needs you to bend the laws of physics when you have a hard beginning time set - they either need to find a guy who has different hours than they do, or, they need to just try for the guy in the next apartment over.



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30 Nov 2010, 8:36 am

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I agree. I think she was very rude. But at the same time, she may have just been saving face. I mean, looking at it from her side, how does she know you were telling the truth and not making up an excuse to blow her off? Maybe other men have done that to her and she's overly sensitive to it. You never know.


You may be right, I actually pride myself on punctuality and the fact that I don't play games like that, but how was she to know that? She was precisely on time, I REALLY wish that I was...

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And look at it this way ... at least what happened was better than meeting her, really liking her and wanting to see her again, but having her not return the feelings. That's happened to me and it sucks.


Oh, that's next, trust me - as surely as night follows day.

I keep going back for more though...ever read Don Quixote? :)



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30 Nov 2010, 8:39 am

Moog wrote:
I don't think you were humiliated or insulted... I think you should attempt to reframe what occurred as something more emotionally neutral; it really wasn't as bad as you are making out, unless I'm missing some detail.


Grisha, I'm really sorry this happened to you, but it (being that late) would have been a dealbreaker for me, too, most likely. Just one of my top three pet peeves.

And, here's something no one has commented on: she had to see a friend whose father just died. Someone's dad dying is out of the blue and *not* schedulable, and it takes precedence over other things. In her shoes, I would have rescheduled the date as soon as I knew I had to go see the friend, but I think most likely she was just furious at being left hanging for so long.

I don't know, maybe there's a cultural lateness "buffer" built-in, in Los Angeles (because everyone knows about the traffic), and she should have been a bit more flexible? If you're meeting for coffee, though, an hour is plenty of time (duration) to schedule. Just my opinion.