How come women can get away with working a bad job.

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How come women can get away with working a bad job while men can't? This double standard is frustrating.

What?

Like chris rock said

They have a p**** for negotiation purposes

i honestly wonder if this is a NT woman thing, to care so much about how much money a guy makes. Because i couldn't care less. My dream is to travel the world as a travelling hobo or to live the simple life in the woods like Thoreau, so i honestly don't care for money. But is it because i'm an aspie or because i'm me?

It's because apartments for women cost less and grocery stores also charge women less for food.

Oh wait...women have to pay just as much to support themselves as men do and therefore need just as much money. There is no discount on needed items just for being female.

So what exactly did you mean by "get away with"? The cost of supporting oneself is no less for women than it is for men.,

I think you're looking at it wrong. I think that employers will look for women to give sh***y jobs to, in general, because it's still (implicitly) expected that women depend on other people for their primary support, even though the reality no longer bears this out. But this is why, historically, women took low-paid jobs like teaching, nursing, etc. It's only in the last 20-30 years that those traditionally-"female" jobs got the respect they deserved and the wages and benefits increased as a result.

I'm in my 40's, and I knew several women that were expected to live at home with their parents until they were married. (I was not one of them.)

Didn't you post a topic like this before? It sounds soo familiar.

I don't know what you're talking about because my bf had a quit college for financial purposes and I'm on the road to graduate in the spring. Chances are until he can get his therapist certification, I'll be the bread winner for awhile. I don't see how one gender "gets away" with anything. :/

It comes down to supply and demand, and cultural expectations. What you say isn't quite as true in the Western world as it is in the third world or traditional cultures, where obesity is a sign of affluence (someone who doesn't have to work a physical job).

In general, the demand for what women can provide, heterosexual intercourse, is always very high. Men will tend to not be choosy, the easier the access to sex with that person (thus your sliding scale for "fat" people). Additionally, cultural expectations are not such that the woman is supposed to be the primary breadwinner, though clearly in reality and practically this does often end up being the case.

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I suppose it would sound odd to hear a man say "I won't date a woman unless she earns $XXXXX a year", but that doesn't mean a woman's career and social standing aren't considerations for the man looking for a relationship, because they certainly are. Now, if you're just talking about sex (and I suspect you are), then yes, a rich man will usually bang a cashier just as readily as a bank executive. But judging humanity and gender roles based on the economics of one night stands is a bit cynical, doncha think?

I think that question can be taken a few different ways so I've no idea what you're asking. I don't know if you're asking why women can be lazy at a job and not get fired (Not sure it's all that true )? Or are you asking why women can work unwanted lower paying jobs (I don't know why that would be a question since men can work cruddy jobs too )? Bad is too vague of a term.

Although my curiosity wonders how this has anything to do with love and dating even if it is one of those two things

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I have no idea what the OP is even asking

It's biological.

Men are 'programmed' to mate with the most fertile women. Consequently men are attracted to young (and beautiful) women. Men are less bothered about what a woman can provide (money in modern terms), as nature hasn't programmed men to worry too much about a woman's providing skills. Women did gather in primitive society, but every young woman was able to do this fairly competently.

Women, on the other hand, are programmed to mate with the best providers (hunters in primitive terms, breadwinners in modern terms), to ensure that her children are well fed. Therefore, women generally care more about money than men.

Obviously there's some variation in what we find attractive as individuals, and attitudes are changing very slowly as society modernizes. Sadly, however, most people are still stuck on the hunter/nurturer playbook. This works against both sexes in different ways, e.g. almost all men care more about a woman's looks than her resume, whilst the vast majority of women would be unlikely to marry a much less successful man, unless there were extenuating circumstances.

Maybe Aspies have somewhat different tastes? Personally, I wouldn't be interested in a less intelligent woman, though I'm not going to lie and say looks are irrelevant.

It's incredibly vague but I think he might be referring to something like this.

Woman is seen working in the Supermarket/Convenience Store and men will think "There is someone who makes her own money and is self-sufficnet"

Man is seen working in a Factory or some other job with low pay and women will think "Well he obviously doesn't have any career prospects or any ambition in life"

^

I don't agree with either of those viewpoints because people (both genders) shouldn't be judged like that from a narrow perspective, but it does hold some logic.

OP, this question doesn't make sense. men date women who make less money, and can't use money as a criteria for dating because... women earn less money than men. even when doing the same jobs, with the same education and experience, women's wages are lower than men's and they are less likely to be promoted to higher positions.

so if a man based his dating choices on a woman's earning potential, he would be a very lonely man indeed.

Yes. Or at least, someone certainly did - I thought the author might have been the same, but I can't swear to it.

OP, could we possibly have some indication of where you're drawing your conclusions? If you have based your statement on some statistical data from the region where you live (or better yet, from an even larger region like an entire country), that would show us where you're coming from. Or if this is a cultural idea you've drawn from literature and the like (where, I must warn you, it is highly likely to be out-of-date; yes, many fiction and non-fiction books and similar things show such a social attitude, but it is dated and no longer really, societally true), we might understand how you've reached your conclusions.

In the meantime, it looks - from comments on this thread - like most people agree that this trend has existed in the past, and may still be tailing off, but that none of us, at this point, factually believes that it is somehow "more okay" for a woman to work a low-paying job than for a man.

Ya I agree with you. I don't understand this addiction to money people have. The last person I was in a relationship with left me because i wasn't giving her a lot of money like I was in the beginning of our relationship. The ironic thing is however, she was making more money than I was. I was giving her that money just because. But meh, people are people and that is that I suppose.

I like your sig also, it speaks truth.. I think sometimes if I didn't know things i know now would I be happy being just average.

Anyway to the OP..

I don't think that, people get jobs for particular reasons. Some because they like them, some because they have to, and some just because. I don't know why people pick certain jobs it just is the way it is. I like driving so I would gladly take a driving job. and some girl who like modeling might take a stripper job or something.. I don't know it just depends on what a person wants and what they are looking for.

I have to ask, why is this in love and dating?
I don't get it..