An Open Letter to Ms. Hale_Bopp
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Hale_Bopp:
Earlier today I read a post you wrote in which you stated the reason you don't post here anymore is due to the "cliques" and the ever present community of the "cool" people. I have seen this scenario play out some many time in my life (in a myriad of social situations) that it's mindboggling. It's been my personal experience that if people dare to look beneath the surface (if one is so inclined), most of us are more similar then would otherwise appear. The end result is that the cliques only serve to polarize and segregate people.
As with anything in life, things (or people for that matter) are rarely what they appear to be. Pirandello wrote about the differences of the social "mask" (persona) that people portray in public (or on forum boards) versus who they really are in private. In short, people who appear "cool" here might not be that way in real life. Have you ever noticed that when people have the anonymity of the Internet, they become fearless?? Chances are they would not the guts (or stupidity for that matter) to say some of the denigrating things to others that they write in the forums if they were face to face with the other person.
It's been my personal experience that most people have more in common (in terms of personal experiences, attitudes, fears, hopes, dreams, goals, aspirations) then would outwardly seem. In short, if one bothers to actually look below the surface (and really get to know someone), the strong likelihood exists that some commonality would exist. After all, aren't we all trying to find some semblance of beauty, kinship and solace in this crazy journey called life??
If you have ever seen the film The Breakfast Club, it nicely sums up my point that our stereotypical perceptions of others might not be the whole picture! Here is an excerpt from the film in which the group of students tells the dimwitted principal "You see us as you want to see us":
Brian Johnson: Dear Mr. Vernon, we accept the fact that we had to sacrifice a whole Saturday in detention for whatever it was we did wrong...but we think you're crazy to make us write an essay telling you who we think we are. You see us as you want to see us... In the simplest terms and the most convenient definitions. But what we found out is that each one of us is a brain...
Andrew Clark: ...and an athlete...
Allison Reynolds: ...and a basket case...
Claire Standish: ...a princess...
John Bender: ...and a criminal...
Brian Johnson: Does that answer your question? Sincerely yours, the Breakfast Club.
I have always said getting to know people for real is analgous to looking beyond cover of a book - if you only judge a book by it's cover
(or perceived cover) - then you just might miss a good read!
Leslie Lee
Hale_Bopp:
Earlier today I read a post you wrote in which you stated the reason you don't post here anymore is due to the "cliques" and the ever present community of the "cool" people. I have seen this scenario play out some many time in my life (in a myriad of social situations) that it's mindboggling. It's been my personal experience that if people dare to look beneath the surface (if one is so inclined), most of us are more similar then would otherwise appear. The end result is that the cliques only serve to polarize and segregate people.
As with anything in life, things (or people for that matter) are rarely what they appear to be. Pirandello wrote about the differences of the social "mask" (persona) that people portray in public (or on forum boards) versus who they really are in private. In short, people who appear "cool" here might not be that way in real life. Have you ever noticed that when people have the anonymity of the Internet, they become fearless?? Chances are they would not the guts (or stupidity for that matter) to say some of the denigrating things to others that they write in the forums if they were face to face with the other person.
It's been my personal experience that most people have more in common (in terms of personal experiences, attitudes, fears, hopes, dreams, goals, aspirations) then would outwardly seem. In short, if one bothers to actually look below the surface (and really get to know someone), the strong likelihood exists that some commonality would exist. After all, aren't we all trying to find some semblance of beauty, kinship and solace in this crazy journey called life??
If you have ever seen the film The Breakfast Club, it nicely sums up my point that our stereotypical perceptions of others might not be the whole picture! Here is an excerpt from the film in which the group of students tells the dimwitted principal "You see us as you want to see us":
Brian Johnson: Dear Mr. Vernon, we accept the fact that we had to sacrifice a whole Saturday in detention for whatever it was we did wrong...but we think you're crazy to make us write an essay telling you who we think we are. You see us as you want to see us... In the simplest terms and the most convenient definitions. But what we found out is that each one of us is a brain...
Andrew Clark: ...and an athlete...
Allison Reynolds: ...and a basket case...
Claire Standish: ...a princess...
John Bender: ...and a criminal...
Brian Johnson: Does that answer your question? Sincerely yours, the Breakfast Club.
I have always said getting to know people for real is analgous to looking beyond cover of a book - if you only judge a book by it's cover
(or perceived cover) - then you just might miss a good read!
Leslie Lee
Why didn't you just pm this to her? Did we HAVE to see this? This thread screams of fighting/attention motives..
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Hale_Bopp:
Earlier today I read a post you wrote in which you stated the reason you don't post here anymore is due to the "cliques" and the ever present community of the "cool" people. I have seen this scenario play out some many time in my life (in a myriad of social situations) that it's mindboggling. It's been my personal experience that if people dare to look beneath the surface (if one is so inclined), most of us are more similar then would otherwise appear. The end result is that the cliques only serve to polarize and segregate people.
As with anything in life, things (or people for that matter) are rarely what they appear to be. Pirandello wrote about the differences of the social "mask" (persona) that people portray in public (or on forum boards) versus who they really are in private. In short, people who appear "cool" here might not be that way in real life. Have you ever noticed that when people have the anonymity of the Internet, they become fearless?? Chances are they would not the guts (or stupidity for that matter) to say some of the denigrating things to others that they write in the forums if they were face to face with the other person.
It's been my personal experience that most people have more in common (in terms of personal experiences, attitudes, fears, hopes, dreams, goals, aspirations) then would outwardly seem. In short, if one bothers to actually look below the surface (and really get to know someone), the strong likelihood exists that some commonality would exist. After all, aren't we all trying to find some semblance of beauty, kinship and solace in this crazy journey called life??
If you have ever seen the film The Breakfast Club, it nicely sums up my point that our stereotypical perceptions of others might not be the whole picture! Here is an excerpt from the film in which the group of students tells the dimwitted principal "You see us as you want to see us":
Brian Johnson: Dear Mr. Vernon, we accept the fact that we had to sacrifice a whole Saturday in detention for whatever it was we did wrong...but we think you're crazy to make us write an essay telling you who we think we are. You see us as you want to see us... In the simplest terms and the most convenient definitions. But what we found out is that each one of us is a brain...
Andrew Clark: ...and an athlete...
Allison Reynolds: ...and a basket case...
Claire Standish: ...a princess...
John Bender: ...and a criminal...
Brian Johnson: Does that answer your question? Sincerely yours, the Breakfast Club.
I have always said getting to know people for real is analgous to looking beyond cover of a book - if you only judge a book by it's cover
(or perceived cover) - then you just might miss a good read!
Leslie Lee
Why didn't you just pm this to her? Did we HAVE to see this? This thread screams of fighting/attention motives..
Aspie Guy,
If you don't want to read this thread - then don't. It's kind of like when you watch TV - if you don't like what the TV show is - then change the channel.
Moreover, I would really appreciate you refraining from telling me what my motives are for writing this post.
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Hale_Bopp:
Earlier today I read a post you wrote in which you stated the reason you don't post here anymore is due to the "cliques" and the ever present community of the "cool" people. I have seen this scenario play out some many time in my life (in a myriad of social situations) that it's mindboggling. It's been my personal experience that if people dare to look beneath the surface (if one is so inclined), most of us are more similar then would otherwise appear. The end result is that the cliques only serve to polarize and segregate people.
As with anything in life, things (or people for that matter) are rarely what they appear to be. Pirandello wrote about the differences of the social "mask" (persona) that people portray in public (or on forum boards) versus who they really are in private. In short, people who appear "cool" here might not be that way in real life. Have you ever noticed that when people have the anonymity of the Internet, they become fearless?? Chances are they would not the guts (or stupidity for that matter) to say some of the denigrating things to others that they write in the forums if they were face to face with the other person.
It's been my personal experience that most people have more in common (in terms of personal experiences, attitudes, fears, hopes, dreams, goals, aspirations) then would outwardly seem. In short, if one bothers to actually look below the surface (and really get to know someone), the strong likelihood exists that some commonality would exist. After all, aren't we all trying to find some semblance of beauty, kinship and solace in this crazy journey called life??
If you have ever seen the film The Breakfast Club, it nicely sums up my point that our stereotypical perceptions of others might not be the whole picture! Here is an excerpt from the film in which the group of students tells the dimwitted principal "You see us as you want to see us":
Brian Johnson: Dear Mr. Vernon, we accept the fact that we had to sacrifice a whole Saturday in detention for whatever it was we did wrong...but we think you're crazy to make us write an essay telling you who we think we are. You see us as you want to see us... In the simplest terms and the most convenient definitions. But what we found out is that each one of us is a brain...
Andrew Clark: ...and an athlete...
Allison Reynolds: ...and a basket case...
Claire Standish: ...a princess...
John Bender: ...and a criminal...
Brian Johnson: Does that answer your question? Sincerely yours, the Breakfast Club.
I have always said getting to know people for real is analgous to looking beyond cover of a book - if you only judge a book by it's cover
(or perceived cover) - then you just might miss a good read!
Leslie Lee
Why didn't you just pm this to her? Did we HAVE to see this? This thread screams of fighting/attention motives..
Aspie Guy,
If you don't want to read this thread - then don't. It's kind of like when you watch TV - if you don't like what the TV show is - then change the channel.
Moreover, I would really appreciate you refraining from telling me what my motives are for writing this post.
My point is that the only reason you posted it here was to make hale_bopp look bad in front of everyone on wrongplanet. We both know that's true.
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I don't mean to get in the way or say something. But hale_bopp already does this on her own.
Well, for someone who didn't mean to say something, you surely did say something - and something kind of mean, at that. @Hale_bopp didn't volunteer to be the subject of a thread, and she sure didn't volunteer to accept unsolicited critiques of her behavior. If you have something to say that you really think she needs to hear, I suggest that you show her the respect required to offer her your perspective privately.
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Oh I understand that.
But I'm saying that in general if someone is publicly pointing out someone's behavior. That the person they are pointing to has already shown a bad image with their own words. No need to get on their case.
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