This is what I hate most about my AS.

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01 Jun 2006, 12:45 pm

I wish I had a real relationship with a girl, but it's like I can't bond. I don't know how to. I never really developed socially. When I see a couple together I get so jealous and sad. It's kinda pathetic.



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01 Jun 2006, 12:59 pm

its hard for AS men to maintain relationships....i am 34 m and have AS
i never had any trouble forming relationships, i could never keep them.
we do feel love we just dont know how to show it properly.
it may help if you met other women with AS?
or ADHD or similar spectrum people as they would be willing to accept your individulaity as being on the spectrum?



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04 Jun 2006, 4:59 pm

Unfortunately for AS types they have some of the following characteristics:

-They don't talk a lot, any communication they use is for UTILITY (I need sex, we need this, that, the other thing), unless their partner shares special interest, or some kind of commonality.
-The want to spend a lot of their time with their special interest outside of having sex with their partners
-They basically neglect their partner in some way without realizing it
-They MAY not have matured enough intellectually to "fake" the emotional/social needs of the other partner.

AS guys can attract partners but cannot keep them, this is also my problem.

Other AS guys are psychologically messed up beyond belief because of peer rejection and their lack of being able to successfully connect with other people, socializing is CRITICAL skill that one needs to survive in the world, it's how one builds all kinds of relationships between people, from friends, to business, befriending strangers, etc.

Many AS guys have timid temperaments and are very 'naive', they are consumed by depression, fear, anxiety and possibly a host of other problems.



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04 Jun 2006, 7:28 pm

I can relate to this fairly well.

I have had one relationship in my life, which I thought was going very well. After being together 5 years, and getting married (dont do that!) she decided that I wasnt right...or something. I really dont understand and doubt I ever will.

I never saw problems, she always had to point them out to me. So ya...who knows!

I will most likely remain single until some lifelike robots come about. When I can program my very own robogirl to my liking. hehe :)



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09 Jun 2006, 3:06 pm

i feel the same way 2 buddy



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09 Jun 2006, 3:44 pm

Let's all commit suicide!
[in case you can't tell, I am being sarcastic...]



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09 Jun 2006, 5:06 pm

Space wrote:
Let's all commit suicide!
[in case you can't tell, I am being sarcastic...]


Still it's not very funny, many aspies do.



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09 Jun 2006, 11:15 pm

Mordy wrote:
Space wrote:
Let's all commit suicide!
[in case you can't tell, I am being sarcastic...]


Still it's not very funny, many aspies do.

Many aspies commit suicide? Would you care to back up this huge statement with some sort of factual information, or did you just decide this on your own?



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10 Jun 2006, 12:44 am

http://www.befriending.co.uk/pdfstore/B ... ergers.pdf

There Space, 85% attempt suicide and/or self harm. Regardless of the facts, it was an inappropriate and inconsiderate comment. There was no point to it.



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10 Jun 2006, 1:14 pm

Mitch8817 wrote:
http://www.befriending.co.uk/pdfstore/Befriending_teenagers_with_Aspergers.pdf

There Space, 85% attempt suicide and/or self harm. Regardless of the facts, it was an inappropriate and inconsiderate comment. There was no point to it.

85% rate of suicide attempts for ppl with AS? How do they collect this info? The term for AS hasn't even been around long enough to collect reliable data of this type. I disregard it. I can say what I want, it's a free country. I never attacked a person, or was hostile to anyone, I even said that I was being sarcastic, so if you can't handle that, it's not my problem.



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10 Jun 2006, 8:31 pm

Dude 1 in every 4 aspie men committ suicide either in their teens or young adulescense. Though I don't wanna die anymore (I was suicidal once though, but I've learned to cope with my demons)... I don't think we should take their right away to end their lives.... AS is a lifelong condition with little hope to overcoming (more due to society's prejudice than our actual "disorder")... I mean some people can't learn to cope and live in total turmoil their whole lives, and no life is better than a slow, agonizing, painful, traumatic life.



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11 Jun 2006, 12:02 am

snake321 wrote:
Dude 1 in every 4 aspie men committ suicide either in their teens or young adulescense. Though I don't wanna die anymore (I was suicidal once though, but I've learned to cope with my demons)... I don't think we should take their right away to end their lives.... AS is a lifelong condition with little hope to overcoming (more due to society's prejudice than our actual "disorder")... I mean some people can't learn to cope and live in total turmoil their whole lives, and no life is better than a slow, agonizing, painful, traumatic life.

Life is supposed to be painful, it is not fun, and it's unfair. It doesn't mean that it's not worth living. Who said that life was all champagne and roses, and that we have rainbows coming out our butts? The point of life is to learn, not to be happy. And again, 25% of males with AS commit suicide? You can't prove this, whether it is true or not. I'd also add that saying that so many males with AS kill themselves might encourage some nutjob on this board to actually do it, thinking it's normal.



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11 Jun 2006, 12:37 am

I didn't find your comment insensitive at all, and I've been there and back.

One thing about having communities like these is that it's easy to find support, but a lot of the time, it can make depression worse when other people post the same kind of depressing things we're already saying to ourselves. In a way, at times, it seems talk of depression/suicide is part of the 'culture' of the place.

You've said a few very important things in a funny way (but then again some people don't like black-ish humor). Bravo.


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11 Jun 2006, 1:28 am

Space wrote:
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Dude 1 in every 4 aspie men committ suicide either in their teens or young adulescense. Though I don't wanna die anymore (I was suicidal once though, but I've learned to cope with my demons)... I don't think we should take their right away to end their lives.... AS is a lifelong condition with little hope to overcoming (more due to society's prejudice than our actual "disorder")... I mean some people can't learn to cope and live in total turmoil their whole lives, and no life is better than a slow, agonizing, painful, traumatic life.

Life is supposed to be painful, it is not fun, and it's unfair. It doesn't mean that it's not worth living. Who said that life was all champagne and roses, and that we have rainbows coming out our butts? The point of life is to learn, not to be happy. And again, 25% of males with AS commit suicide? You can't prove this, whether it is true or not. I'd also add that saying that so many males with AS kill themselves might encourage some nutjob on this board to actually do it, thinking it's normal.


Aspies aren't influenced like NT's are. Also being suicidal or depressed as an aspie goes way beyond some momentary story of aspie committing suicide or whatever, most apsies have struggled with suicide and will continue to struggle with it their entire lives. Obviously you've never been suicidal, or have a decent enough life not to be.



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11 Jun 2006, 1:35 am

Mordy wrote:
Space wrote:
snake321 wrote:
Dude 1 in every 4 aspie men committ suicide either in their teens or young adulescense. Though I don't wanna die anymore (I was suicidal once though, but I've learned to cope with my demons)... I don't think we should take their right away to end their lives.... AS is a lifelong condition with little hope to overcoming (more due to society's prejudice than our actual "disorder")... I mean some people can't learn to cope and live in total turmoil their whole lives, and no life is better than a slow, agonizing, painful, traumatic life.

Life is supposed to be painful, it is not fun, and it's unfair. It doesn't mean that it's not worth living. Who said that life was all champagne and roses, and that we have rainbows coming out our butts? The point of life is to learn, not to be happy. And again, 25% of males with AS commit suicide? You can't prove this, whether it is true or not. I'd also add that saying that so many males with AS kill themselves might encourage some nutjob on this board to actually do it, thinking it's normal.


Aspies aren't influenced like NT's are. Also being suicidal or depressed as an aspie goes way beyond some momentary story of aspie committing suicide or whatever, most apsies have struggled with suicide and will continue to struggle with it their entire lives. Obviously you've never been suicidal, or have a decent enough life not to be.

I have attempted suicide, and I nearly died. Sorry, but I can speak with complete authority. Checkmate.



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11 Jun 2006, 2:42 am

snake321 wrote:
Dude 1 in every 4 aspie men committ suicide either in their teens or young adulescense.

I guess aspie women don't count then? :roll:

Seems like aspegeres in women isn't treated as seriously as aspergers in men. Why is this?