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08 Aug 2006, 11:02 pm

I am old enough to be the father of many of you. So this is a paternal warning to the girls, as aspies may not see what's going on:

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What am I supposed to do when someone blatently says "do you want to have casual sex with me" I didn't know where to look or what to say, I wished he would just shut up, so I figetted.


For education of you young innocent things (or maybe a tip for the guys!).

When I was young and single, I knew someone (no not me) who would go up to every unattached girl in a party, bar etc and ask if they wanted sex. He got a lot of slaps in the face, but he got sex too.

All young blokes my age (not bogons either) knew about this and talked about it. If you were desperate and dateless, this was the advice you got. Go up to every girl and ask them outright for sex. But hardly anyone ever actually did it. Some guys did. Its all about percentages. Ask enough girls, you will eventually get a yes.

Appropriate replies?
If you're not the 1 in 50 that says yes, a knee in the groin or slap in the face would work. :)


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09 Aug 2006, 12:05 am

However, if the person coming onto you is known as Vinzer, it's usually in your best interest to go along with the whole thing.


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09 Aug 2006, 2:29 am

What?

I wasn't asking about why guys do it, I was just posting how what he said made me feel uncomfortable, as I didn't want to be rude hence had no idea what to say.



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09 Aug 2006, 2:35 am

Why are women permitted to hit a man for extending such an invitation? At least the guys who are doing this are being upfront and honest. There are some people who keep their partners in relationships for no other reason than to have a reliable source of sex; all the while they are emotionally stringing along their partner. I think that's far worse.

I would say a more appropriate response in this situation for a woman who did not want sex would be to say 'no'. 'No thanks' would be even better, and would show appreciation for his offer. After all, I bet most women wouldn't want a knee in their groin if the roles were reversed.



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09 Aug 2006, 3:49 am

blackduck wrote:
Its all about percentages. Ask enough girls, you will eventually get a yes.


A pathetic strategy!



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09 Aug 2006, 1:43 pm

Wow!

I agree. That's not good!


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09 Aug 2006, 6:51 pm

Enigmatic_Oddity wrote:
Why are women permitted to hit a man for extending such an invitation? At least the guys who are doing this are being upfront and honest. There are some people who keep their partners in relationships for no other reason than to have a reliable source of sex; all the while they are emotionally stringing along their partner. I think that's far worse.

I would say a more appropriate response in this situation for a woman who did not want sex would be to say 'no'. 'No thanks' would be even better, and would show appreciation for his offer. After all, I bet most women wouldn't want a knee in their groin if the roles were reversed.


Spoken like a true Aspie, that's how WE see the situation, in a perfectly logical, sensible manner.
Basically a man should be strong enough to take any hit and not care, and women can't hit hard anyway, but it's more about the symbolism, the man is being somewhat rude and lecherous, so deserves to be brought down a notch to let him know he is way out of line.

Now to an Aspie straight out asking a woman for sex seems like a sensible and logical idea, that is the end goal usually, so why not cut to the chase and get it over with and miss out the weird mind games and so on. But for NTs the whole game playing is part of the ritual and it's subtle meanings and unspoken rules. When a guy breaks those rules he must be punished enough to deter him from continuing to break the rules.

emp wrote:
blackduck wrote:
Its all about percentages. Ask enough girls, you will eventually get a yes.


A pathetic strategy!


No its a very good strategy, advertisers, scam artists and spam mailers know it, they just send out hundreds of letters and emails knowing that only very few will fall for it.

This is the main problem with 'nice guys' they think it's pathetic to do this, yet 'jerks' dont care, they are used to people not liking them, so they aren't scared of being embarassed. They go ahead and ask all the girls out knowing that the odds are some will say yes. Nice guys sit around watching them shaking their head in dissapproval and then wonder why the jerk manages to get a date. Then they get bitter because of their own inadequacies.

You dont have to ask for sex though, just ask for a date, go to your local mall or high street and ask everygirl there who seems ok for a date, you will probably get a dozen yes's.

Dating is a numbers game, the more you ask the better your chances, your living in a dreamworld to think otherwise.



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09 Aug 2006, 6:57 pm

It's a stupid idea to just go up to random girls and ask them for casual sex. The odds of a girl agreeing, especially with my looks, are slim to bupkus, or 0.0001%. The other 99.9999% consist of an outright rejection, a slap in the face, or a sexual harrassment charge.

If you're really desperate for sex, hire an escort. It's all about dialing a number, setting up an appointment, meeting the girl at the agreed-upon hotel, and walking out with a smile an hour later. In countries where "this kind of thing" is legal, you can even go on the street.

If you're going to a country where it's legal, here's are some tips.
Amsterdam, Netherlands: Go to the Red Light District, which is located in a very nice area. You'll see a row of storefronts with red lights in the windows. Knock on the door of your choice, and have fun. Almost everyone speaks English, so language won't be a problem. Strong police presence keeps the area very safe. There is no stigma of going here.
Tel Aviv, Israel: Go to the Central Bus Station at night (during the day, it's just a bus station). The area is decently lit, patrolled by the police, and the stigma of going here is minimal. Approach the girl of your choice, if she doesn't approach you first, and have fun. Knowing basic Hebrew will be helpful, as not everyone speaks English well.



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09 Aug 2006, 7:39 pm

Could someone really be charged with sexual harrassment just for asking somebody for sex? I would think that would only be true if the people were in a relationship with an obvious power imbalance, like a female worker and her boss.

mysteriouslyabsent wrote:
Spoken like a true Aspie, that's how WE see the situation, in a perfectly logical, sensible manner. Basically a man should be strong enough to take any hit and not care, and women can't hit hard anyway, but it's more about the symbolism, the man is being somewhat rude and lecherous, so deserves to be brought down a notch to let him know he is way out of line.


Oh, don't worry. I'm not as clueless as my post made me out to sound. I know why women are permitted to hit men for being lustful. The question I posed was rhetorical.



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09 Aug 2006, 7:44 pm

Aspie1, you seem to bring up escorts in all of your posts. I think mentioningn it once is enough.

Aspie1 wrote:
It's a stupid idea to just go up to random girls and ask them for casual sex. The odds of a girl agreeing, especially with my looks, are slim to bupkus, or 0.0001%. The other 99.9999% consist of an outright rejection, a slap in the face, or a sexual harrassment charge.

If you're really desperate for sex, hire an escort. It's all about dialing a number, setting up an appointment, meeting the girl at the agreed-upon hotel, and walking out with a smile an hour later. In countries where "this kind of thing" is legal, you can even go on the street.

If you're going to a country where it's legal, here's are some tips.
Amsterdam, Netherlands: Go to the Red Light District, which is located in a very nice area. You'll see a row of storefronts with red lights in the windows. Knock on the door of your choice, and have fun. Almost everyone speaks English, so language won't be a problem. Strong police presence keeps the area very safe. There is no stigma of going here.
Tel Aviv, Israel: Go to the Central Bus Station at night (during the day, it's just a bus station). The area is decently lit, patrolled by the police, and the stigma of going here is minimal. Approach the girl of your choice, if she doesn't approach you first, and have fun. Knowing basic Hebrew will be helpful, as not everyone speaks English well.


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09 Aug 2006, 10:37 pm

alex wrote:
Aspie1, you seem to bring up escorts in all of your posts. I think mentioningn it once is enough.


I also have to wonder how useful it is to post the locations of brothels. How many people here live in Amsterdam or Israel? Besides, the sex industry is large and pervasive enough that any man worth his salt can find themselves a hooker to spend the night with.

That said, I have nothing against his constant mentioning of escorts. I think it's somewhat relevant here.



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10 Aug 2006, 12:35 am

Heh, the bit about percentages reminds me of something a friend of mine told me years ago.

He said that for guys, dating and/or picking up women is like baseball: it's a sport based on failure. If you get up to bat 10 times and get three hits, that's over a 300 batting average. If you do it all season you're the mvp. If you do it your whole career you'll make the hall of fame. Me? I'm lucky to have the opportunity to get involved in a pick up game-of softball.

Oddly enough, you can apply this same formula to getting a job. The more you apply, the more likely you are to get called back for an interview. I brought this up in front of a group of women once, pointing out this similarity: Women are like work. I saved myself several tongue-lashings by remarkably (for me) thinking to point out that if you love your job, then it's not work. Phew!



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10 Aug 2006, 6:58 pm

Enigmatic_Oddity wrote:
I also have to wonder how useful it is to post the locations of brothels. How many people here live in Amsterdam or Israel? Besides, the sex industry is large and pervasive enough that any man worth his salt can find themselves a hooker to spend the night with.

It was mostly travel tips for anyone interested. I guess Amsterdam is already famous for that, but few people know about it in Tel Aviv. I actually saw the Tel Aviv scene myself while going past it in a taxi. I have yet to travel to Amsterdam, though.



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11 Aug 2006, 4:53 am

i am going to turn 22 and im still a virgin. Not once have i asked a girl " Hey can we have sex" Id be expecting a slap in the face or a kick in the balls. I mean just for asking out a girl on a date i was told "f**k Off" By some even just for asking a date. Please excuse my language there but i was just stating what i was told. Anyway my point is its not right to ask a random girl for sex not only is it because its rude but who knows what the girl might have? She could have stds, She could have a bf or husband who would beat the living s**t out of you for talking to her. You never know you have to take precautions and be prepared to bite the bullet when you do things like this. anyways thats all i have to say about this



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25 Aug 2006, 8:59 am

I wouldn't feel verry comfortable with just asking a stranger for sex.
You should atleast get to know them a bit beforehand.
I wouldn't like a slap in my face either :D

Been to amsterdam once when i was a kid.
Walked over "the wallen" (red light district in English) once.
It was a funny place.
Saw some guy run around naked with crowds around.

I would never consider just asking some random girl for sex, or a prostitute.



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25 Aug 2006, 10:47 am

Aspie1 wrote:
It's a stupid idea to just go up to random girls and ask them for casual sex. The odds of a girl agreeing, especially with my looks, are slim to bupkus, or 0.0001%. The other 99.9999% consist of an outright rejection, a slap in the face, or a sexual harrassment charge.


You've tried this?


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