Asking for a woman's Facebook account instead of number.

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I have found this to be a very bad idea.

First, someone may not want to give a link to their website which has a lot of their personal information on it, to a guy who could be a stalker or creep.

Second, asking for a Facebook account is more neutral and for a friend maybe rather than someone you potentially want a relationship with. A phone number is more personal and special rather than being on a list of 300 other people that she rarely talks to. That's a direct trip to the friend zone possibly.

Third, a woman will know that some guys ask for the Facebook because they may lack the confidence to ask for her number.

Four, Facebook takes out one important aspect of flirting: voice. And you can always ask for their phone number if the conversation goes well.

Your thoughts?

I don't hit on random women on the street, so I wouldn't know...

I think you make some good points.

five, i don't have facebook and peoples shocked reactions to this bombshell are embarrassing

and you don't want a response of "i rarely use it".

that response could mean "i do use it often, but i'm just trying to give you an indirect hint that i don't want to be your facebook friends"

Try giving them a disposable e-mail address? That's what I would do?

I can't believe you guys don't have Facebook. It's 2011. I am also shocked.

i have a face ache.

I've got a facebook too :P Just ive not filled it in, ive just needed to look at things on facebook occasionaly.

Plus, she might not have a Facebook!

Not necessarily, I witnessed guys getting gfs by adding them to facebook first.

It's not a matter of whether asking a FB or phone number or email address first....

It's a matter whether she finds you attractive/interesting or not. Asking a FB before a phone number won't make you less attractive to her and asking her a phone number first won't magically make you more attractive to her either. If she doesn't find you attractive, she'll put you in the friend zone regardless how you are communicating with her (whether by phone or by FB).

Attraction is all what matters, all the other stuff as whether to get her phone or email or whether to get her FB or whether you should say hi or hello are ridiculous meaningless tiny details that have no impact on the output.