lilypadfad wrote:
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generalisations are not true in many cases and they are not really useful in terms of understanding people anyway.
Screw it then let's throw dating advice entirely out the window. No more advice on this forum ever. No more telling men to practice good hygiene because the generalisation that women prefer men who don't smell like a sewer is offensive to women.
What you really mean is, you don't like the generalisations I make because they put women in a bad light. (Of course it's fine for women to portray men as criminals, paedophiles, rapists, serial woman beaters, at best sexually obsessed creeps for whom only fear of the law is stopping them from ravishing the nearest woman).
i didn't actually say anything about throwing dating advice out the window. and i didn't say it was okay for women to generalise either. i'll copy and paste what i stated in another thread, as a great deal of it covers the idea of advice on the forum.
hyperlexian wrote:
i do NOT think men or women have it harder. we have our own set of challenges that we face. and it's not even universally the same for all members of either gender. one woman's problems may be completely different another woman's, and the same goes for men.
i think that there has to be a better way to help men and women understand each other better on WP. i just don't have any idea how to effect that. most threads that encourage men and women to find the positives in each other end up going down in flames. support threads where people want specific advice seem to work pretty well.
i guess the problem is really in the ranting. people want to be supported and understood for their suffering, but some members seem to have problems expressing their frustration without blaming or deriding or generalising or demonising the opposite gender.
this is frustrating to me because there are a great many positive and kind and understanding and supportive people on the board. also, there are members who are lonely who do not blame the opposite gender for their troubles. but these individuals are largely ignored and are as likely to leave WP in frustration as the people who feel targeted by the angry rants. they are drowned out.
there is a lot of good advice on here (and even some potential dating opportunities if you don't go on misogynistic or misandric rants), but the people providing that excellent advice get burnt out from the hate and the anger.
something i have been thinking about... in real life it is really never acceptable to put down groups of people like that. if a person is discussing love & dating at work on lunchbreak in mixed company, there is no way they would be expressing massive negativity towards an entire gender, or saying how certain body types are disgusting, or making sweeping generalisations. WP's L&D is not a gender-exclusive club where friends can freely trash the opposite sex - it is a group of individuals with different ages, genders, life experiences, cultures, ethnicities, education, levels of functioning, etc.
i think we are all better off when people are made to feel welcome with inclusive and supportive interactions as opposed to all the negativity, otherwise the forum itself because less helpful and less useful.
anyway, this thread was not really intended as being useful for dating advice.
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