My thoughts on "You'll find someone if you stop looking
As mentioned by Grisha in a thread.
I think it all depends on what you're like normally. I mean, if you do a lot of things and get yourself out there and meet lots of people, men and women as friends and people to chat to and even know superficially, appearing less desperate for a date might make the women/men you already socialise with see a more positive side of you.
If normally you don't do anything or very much, then "You'll find someone if you stop looking" is pretty much never true unless you have an *EXTREMELY* good stroke of well, unpredictable luck. IE: You go to the supermarket and find your love there. (very unlikely.. but it probably HAS happened)
I'm more inclined to believe the first paragraph I've written here is what the people meant when they came up with the phrase.
Thoughts?
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Perhaps purposeful, intentional, mindful, actions and thoughts can't make something happen no matter what effort you put into that desire. Rather what happens is maybe a more sub-concious act of connection between others. You have to allow the natural flow of such a relationship to develop, you don't purposefully and intentionally create it. The opportunity arises and presents itself to you. But you don't neccesarily have to be conciouss of the fact such a bond is being formed between you and the other person you interact with.
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That is an interesting Point of view, and better than mine. I think in that regards, it may be why aspies struggle, as from what I've seen, we over analyse things and situations, and pick them to bits instead of just not thinking about things and going with the flow.
I think the "not looking thing" that a lot of people say, usually it is people already in relationships- is ridiculous. How are you supposed to find anything if you dont put any effort into looking for it? If you are sitting at home not looking for a date, the pizza delivery boy isnt just going to turn up with a 24 carat engagement ring and some champagne.
My friend met her husband through speed dating. She was looking, she went to a dating thing. A lot of people meet their partners at parties etc, some even at work. But if you are single you are always looking, unless you are intentionally off the market. So the idea that you are supposed to stop looking is silly, as subconsciously you will still be looking.
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I think it's the exact same sentiment as "A watched pot doesn't boil."
Meaning that not looking won't literally increase your odds of a relationship. In fact for non-NTs they'll probably decrease it. But it seems like they mean "if you're not desperate to be in a relationship, you won't feel the sting of not being in one moment by moment. If you aren't as desperate then when one does come along it will comparatively seem that you haven't been looking or trying for one" (although of course most everyone wants closeness with other people).
I agree with your first paragraph hale bopp, from my observations, as long as there's nothing *too* wrong with you, all you have to do is keep showing up at places. unfortunately that is not an option for many of us.
my friends universally belong to the "stop looking" crowd, because they have *all* met their partners/husbands/wives in weird daily situations while they were not looking. it's hard to talk some "correlation does not equal causation" sense into NTs though
I'd suspect that if there's something inherently weird about you it's more obvious to a stranger than it is to people who know you well; hence their "stop looking" is bad advice if you want to succeed - they simply can't see your flaws clearly. you can have your go at the "numbers game" though and that's how this tactic could ever work for us.
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I think when you have people in relationships saying that kind of phrase though they are looking at in hindsight because they forget what its like to be in the situation you are in now. But fundamentally I don't think the original intention behind such a phrase, in its truest sense of the word is wrong. You can't create the outcome you desire, you simply live it out. If you are living and participating in life then others will join you. If you are sat waiting at the railway station for someone to help you buy the ticket and get on the journey well sorry people just arn't wired that way
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My friend met her husband through speed dating. She was looking, she went to a dating thing. A lot of people meet their partners at parties etc, some even at work. But if you are single you are always looking, unless you are intentionally off the market. So the idea that you are supposed to stop looking is silly, as subconsciously you will still be looking.
My sentiments exactly - although much more skillfully expressed.
You are always looking, even if it's not conscious - and I agree 100% with the statement that people who say "stop looking" are almost invariably in relationships themselves.
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my friends universally belong to the "stop looking" crowd, because they have *all* met their partners/husbands/wives in weird daily situations while they were not looking. it's hard to talk some "correlation does not equal causation" sense into NTs though
I'd suspect that if there's something inherently weird about you it's more obvious to a stranger than it is to people who know you well; hence their "stop looking" is bad advice if you want to succeed - they simply can't see your flaws clearly. you can have your go at the "numbers game" though and that's how this tactic could ever work for us.
^ Hmmm, don't take what people say at face value, I don't really believe that people who get hubands/wives/partners were not really looking. Maybe by 'not really looking" they mean that they were not explicitly or actively looking (Like asking out people or using dating sites ...etc) but obviously they were passively looking for a partner, otherwise they wouldn't end up talking with guy x or girl y for weeks and months and let themselves to be attracted and falling for him/her. In fact, most single NT are looking, but they do it passively and instinctively.
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True but sad. I read studies were done that showed up to age two and a half or something kids will of their own will open doors for strangers and help them out of trouble. Then fear and mistrust is trained into them. Wouldn't it be nice if the training didn't occur.
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Neither do I believe people with serious intention of actively looking for someone do so by finding patterns devising forumula's and creating algorythmns with their calculations. For a start going around playing with a calculator every time a member of the opposite sex talks to you is somewhat bizzare. And that whole human hangup of trying to bring order to a chaotic universe thing is a real strange hang up we homo sapiens have and it just should stay in urban designing and weather forcasts and names for plants and bits n peices...not the bedroom its just weird, theres probably a fetish for symetry out there somewhere...i'm killing this chain of thought right there....
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my friends universally belong to the "stop looking" crowd, because they have *all* met their partners/husbands/wives in weird daily situations while they were not looking. it's hard to talk some "correlation does not equal causation" sense into NTs though
I'd suspect that if there's something inherently weird about you it's more obvious to a stranger than it is to people who know you well; hence their "stop looking" is bad advice if you want to succeed - they simply can't see your flaws clearly. you can have your go at the "numbers game" though and that's how this tactic could ever work for us.
Once you find what you're looking for, you stop looking (er.. well, generally speaking, though in terms of relationships I guess some people don't). And people have short memories. I think some people or maybe even most people who are in relationships (particularly who are in good relationships) probably don't remember the struggles of being single, only that they met someone and it just seemed to work out.
