What Are Your Options???

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So there are a lot of guys on here who are struggling with the opposite sex (myself included). And there have been lots of debates and suggestions about what these guys should do about it. I have put forth my suggestions as well as what I am currently doing to help myself, so I wanted to explore that more in this thread.

I used a number of sources to give me some help. I'm not where I want to be yet, but I'm happier with what I have learned:

I learned a lot about social interactions by being around people more and analyzing them (in the most subtle manner of course ). I also studied self-improvement literature, and found stuff by a man called Carlos Xuma, which was (and still is) fantastic help in rediscovering confidence and being able to maintain some kind of intrigue with a woman. I downloaded about 2 GB worth of PUA material at one point, and I was skeptical about it............until I read about half of it, and it was actually really helpful and not as "manipulative" as I thought it would be. I have been somewhat a defender of "game" ever since.

Keep in mind that it is not my goal to sleep with endless amounts of women, just to find a woman who I wish to be in a mutually fun relationship with.

I began dissecting peoples advice such as "be yourself" and I used to be upset when people told me this, as I thought being myself wasn't working. Well, I still think it is bad advice, but in principle it is correct. The problem is, people will hear "be yourself" and do the same self-limiting behaviours they've been doing that isn't helping them. So I began to understand people's advice and how helpful it actually was.

I'd love for people to elaborate

Just a comment: it sounds like you've got the right attitude - I'm sure it's only a matter of time before you find what you're looking for...

Thank you

It is quite funny to me because of what I do (rapper) and how I look, people usually assume I must be good with girls, and the truth is I was quite terrible!!

I'm getting better at socializing with girls on a normal level without being nervous now, all I have to do is just be able to be more engaging with a woman I like.

I am just living my life, improving myself for myself,becoming more 'adult', surviving this hard country and trying to move to another.
If a gf comes in the way one day, that would be great.
If not at all, it would be fine by me....lived 29 years with no real gf already and I am still breathing and sane.

That's my only 'option'.


I won't waste my time, energy and money over gurus' stuff that would only work for the gurus themselves.

I am not a fan of PUA material at all. But the last weekend I have 'been myself' and I will never look back.

If a nerd can do well in a port town with a naval base, a nerd can do well anywhere. I had just had enough advice and went out as myself.

'Be yourself' is advice that before I thought was faulty. I thought myself wasn't attractive. I was wrong. I'm now as attractive as I was many years ago. Anyone being theirself is attractive to the right people. If it isn't working, put yourself out to more people.

As I said before, I'm not a fan of PUA, but 'be yourself' actually does work,the only reservation I'd make is to act without shame. Just make sure you don't go too far and definitely don't break any laws.

I have problems judging actions myself, I just mirrored what was done to me. Not that that's much help to others. But woooooooooooo - freshers' week!! !! !!

My options are be single or date someone I don't like.

After trying the latter, I'll stick with the former.

I have oodles of options, here is my list.

1 Go straightedge and work out. No drugs/alcohol/coffee/junk food and become a gym bunny. Do a body cleanse also. H2O2 therapy

2 Lower my standards

3 Get a job as a waiter or put myself around a truck load of single women

4 Advertise online

5 Go to pickup bars

6 Stop acting like a dick

7 Do yoga 5 times a week in a class full of women

8 Take up ballroom dancing

9 Stop being so defeatist and understand the law of attraction

10 Have daily testosterone enemas

11 Try a fecal transplant

12 Use my imagination

13 Destroy my computer, get a dog, and hang out at the park, lake or beach. Things just happen around girls without trying, analsizing, or fixating in an unhealthy, obsessive, or incorrect way.

1 immerse myself in hopelessness
2spiral downward from contagious depression and negative rhetoric
3 make funny one liners to ease the pain
4get some meds
5find a quack
6resign myself to a prevalent view, 'a mean' of thought guided by the loving hands of Saturn
7decide to be different and avoid self limiting rhetoric and influence
8 avoid negative karma by not espousing negative and harmful ideas

Sit in front of the computer taking about options and hoping I will read of a magic technique and a woman will then miraculously appear from cyberspace and land on my dick.

1 indulge in internet porn
2 indulge in a recreational drug for forgetting
3whine about the shortcomings of either myself or women in general
4ask my doctor if a lobotomy is right for me
5indulge in wishful thinking with women online that i have never met and prolly never will

Surfaman, shut-----up.

thanks Boo, I needed that

just had some bad monkeys inside me that needed to come out

all good now