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06 Nov 2011, 7:08 pm

so.. i met a girl the other day, and we hit it off. shes pretty cool, but theres some things about her that make me worry that eventually i wont want to be with her.

shes a very nice girl, and we get along great. shes nerdy (which i find attractive), and smart..

the ONLY problem is her appearance. it sounds awful, i know, but im not as attracted to her as i have been with my other girlfriends (and other girls in general). shes is also overweight. this is something troubling for me because i decided a while ago i wouldnt marry a girl who was especially overweight because of health reasons (alone. i dont mind bigger girls, i just dont want to.. as terrible as this sounds.. deal with the inevitable health issues she will have later in life that are directly related to her excess weight).

she spent the night last night, and as she fell asleep i started crying because shes had such bad luck with guys in the past, and i dont want to break her heart and see her cry. i made sure she didnt hear me, because i dont know what i would have done if she did.. or what i would have said. i dont want to lead her on either, but maybe i can learn to live with her looks, and talk to her about her weight problem (because that bit is non-negotiable for me) because she could work on that.

what should i do? im just so riddled with doubt. its tearing me up inside, and i dont know what to do at all. i need the help of you wise aspies!



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06 Nov 2011, 7:56 pm

I stopped chasing after a girl before because she was a smoker. While it would be foolhardy to overlook someone you really liked because of concerns over how they looked after their health, if it's seriously impacting how attractive you find her, it might not be worth getting too involved. If a failure to look after her health is something of a deal breaker for you, it's not worth it. However, if you love everything else about her, then you shouldn't let something like her weight turn you off.

As for her appearance, being physically attracted to someone is important. They don't have to be a model, but if you don't find them sexually desirable, then that's going to work against you having a happy relationship with them. The person you decide to be with shouldn't be a compromise, but someone you really want to be with, whom you find attractive and meets the most important criteria for what you want in a mate. Otherwise, you'll end up wishing you were with someone else and that will strain the relationship.

It's your call. Hope that helps put things in perspective somewhat.


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06 Nov 2011, 8:42 pm

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I stopped chasing after a girl before because she was a smoker. While it would be foolhardy to overlook someone you really liked because of concerns over how they looked after their health, if it's seriously impacting how attractive you find her, it might not be worth getting too involved. If a failure to look after her health is something of a deal breaker for you, it's not worth it. However, if you love everything else about her, then you shouldn't let something like her weight turn you off.

As for her appearance, being physically attracted to someone is important. They don't have to be a model, but if you don't find them sexually desirable, then that's going to work against you having a happy relationship with them. The person you decide to be with shouldn't be a compromise, but someone you really want to be with, whom you find attractive and meets the most important criteria for what you want in a mate. Otherwise, you'll end up wishing you were with someone else and that will strain the relationship.

It's your call. Hope that helps put things in perspective somewhat.
thanks for your input :D



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07 Nov 2011, 1:55 am

tronist wrote:
she spent the night last night, and as she fell asleep i started crying because shes had such bad luck with guys in the past, and i dont want to break her heart and see her cry. i made sure she didnt hear me, because i dont know what i would have done if she did.. or what i would have said. i dont want to lead her on either, but maybe i can learn to live with her looks, and talk to her about her weight problem (because that bit is non-negotiable for me) because she could work on that.

what should i do? im just so riddled with doubt. its tearing me up inside, and i dont know what to do at all. i need the help of you wise aspies!


Don't sell yourself short, most girls have had bad luck with guys or have some kind of victim story about how they can't meet the right man. If you're slightly unsure about something, end it now because it will hurt more when you lead her on and suddenly meet a girl you really like.



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07 Nov 2011, 2:31 pm

Wolfheart wrote:
tronist wrote:
she spent the night last night, and as she fell asleep i started crying because shes had such bad luck with guys in the past, and i dont want to break her heart and see her cry. i made sure she didnt hear me, because i dont know what i would have done if she did.. or what i would have said. i dont want to lead her on either, but maybe i can learn to live with her looks, and talk to her about her weight problem (because that bit is non-negotiable for me) because she could work on that.

what should i do? im just so riddled with doubt. its tearing me up inside, and i dont know what to do at all. i need the help of you wise aspies!


Don't sell yourself short, most girls have had bad luck with guys or have some kind of victim story about how they can't meet the right man. If you're slightly unsure about something, end it now because it will hurt more when you lead her on and suddenly meet a girl you really like.
thanks for the input!

does anyone have a success story about staying in a relationship with someone who they could be a bit more attracted to?



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07 Nov 2011, 3:04 pm

A metaphor I would use for this is a pillar with a staircase spiraling around it that you can't go down (the steps collapse as you walk along them) with a prize at the top.
Unless the possibility of receiving and committing to the prize is worth it to you, the sooner you jump off the less painful the fall will be, even though it's already going to be pretty painful at this point.

Basically, if you can't see yourself marrying her, you should break up ASAP. Although I'll say appearance doesn't mean as much in marriage as you would think.



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07 Nov 2011, 3:25 pm

If the only problem is appearance, I might even consider talking to her about losing weight!! It would also probably mean me eating much healthier if that's what she has to do to lose weight, and losing weight myself even though I don't need to. If she can't handle that, and she's really so unattractive that I can't marry her, "losing" her to calling her fat would likely be better than leading her on, finding someone else reasonably attractive and just as compatible, then having to break her heart.


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08 Nov 2011, 12:57 am

I think mentioning her weight to her would only make her feel terrible about herself, but if you're feeling doubts about it this early on, it's probably not a good idea to pursue the relationship. It will only make it worse for both of you when it inevitably ends. Normally the beginning stage is when people naively idealize the other person, so if you're feeling unsure this early on, that's a pretty big metaphorical red flag.



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08 Nov 2011, 6:50 am

dogslife wrote:
I think mentioning her weight to her would only make her feel terrible about herself, but if you're feeling doubts about it this early on, it's probably not a good idea to pursue the relationship. It will only make it worse for both of you when it inevitably ends. Normally the beginning stage is when people naively idealize the other person, so if you're feeling unsure this early on, that's a pretty big metaphorical red flag.

omg so should i not even talk to her, and instead just break up? i need more advices guys (and girls)

are you sure its not better or 'okay' to talk to her about her weight? i dunno if i could ask this without feeling bad T.T



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08 Nov 2011, 7:27 am

InfinityMinusInfinity wrote:
Basically, if you can't see yourself marrying her, you should break up ASAP.


Sorry, I don't agree with the above quote in the slightest.

OP, you don't say how old you are, but it sounds like you and this girl get along pretty well otherwise you wouldn't be spending the night together.
How about just enjoying her company instead of analysing everything and working yourself up?
Sure relationships don't always work out, but then neither do friendships and one can't avoid everyone forever "in case something goes wrong". Otherwise one would miss out on the very life experiences that make us human and build us through life.
Have faith in yourself and the world and give it a chance! :o)

PS. If you wanted to break up with her that much you would have done it already and not bothered to ask people's opinion.



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08 Nov 2011, 7:41 am

Mishmash wrote:
InfinityMinusInfinity wrote:
Basically, if you can't see yourself marrying her, you should break up ASAP.


Sorry, I don't agree with the above quote in the slightest.

OP, you don't say how old you are, but it sounds like you and this girl get along pretty well otherwise you wouldn't be spending the night together.
How about just enjoying her company instead of analysing everything and working yourself up?
Sure relationships don't always work out, but then neither do friendships and one can't avoid everyone forever "in case something goes wrong". Otherwise one would miss out on the very life experiences that make us human and build us through life.
Have faith in yourself and the world and give it a chance! :o)

PS. If you wanted to break up with her that much you would have done it already and not bothered to ask people's opinion.
thanks for your feedback. i wanted to hear this perspective as well.



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08 Nov 2011, 9:24 am

health problems do not inevitably happen from being overweight. super-morbid obesity (like 400lb) is more likely to cause problems, but in general being fat != being unhealty by default. how big is she?

one thing to keep in mind is that people change; over 20 years any thinner girl could end up overweight, or any bigger girl could end up thin. the person you date is not likely to keep the same body forever and ever.

on the other hand, if you are simply not physically attracted to her, it is best that you don't make a move on her and make sure that she knows that you are just friends. you are not responsible for her happiness, and it is better that she should be with someone who wants her as a whole package.


p.s. do not ever, ever, ever suggest to a partner or potential partner that they should lose weight. it is not only offensive but also puts you in the uneasy position of supposedly knowing what is best for someone else's health, which you do not. it also gives them license to start deciding what is best for your health, which may not play out as you expect.


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10 Nov 2011, 5:36 am

hyperlexian wrote:
health problems do not inevitably happen from being overweight. super-morbid obesity (like 400lb) is more likely to cause problems, but in general being fat != being unhealty by default. how big is she?

shes like 240lbs i'd say. i know it doesnt INSTANTLY mean you will be unhealthy, but i do know it raises your chances for health problems (at least thats what ive personally always heard).
hyperlexian wrote:
on the other hand, if you are simply not physically attracted to her, it is best that you don't make a move on her and make sure that she knows that you are just friends. you are not responsible for her happiness, and it is better that she should be with someone who wants her as a whole package.

were already dating T.T

maybe i should just break up with her then? sigh.. could you give me advice on the best way to do this? i'll research elsewhere, too, but i really need help and would appreciate your input T.T
hyperlexian wrote:
p.s. do not ever, ever, ever suggest to a partner or potential partner that they should lose weight. it is not only offensive but also puts you in the uneasy position of supposedly knowing what is best for someone else's health, which you do not. it also gives them license to start deciding what is best for your health, which may not play out as you expect.
what if the pretext was appearance? i think surely there would be some people who would rather hear the 'fluffily worded' 'i'd prefer you lost weight to help your appearance' rather than 'seeya! sorry you arent different'. right? i dont know..

i need to resolve this very soon, hopefully you guys can give me more feedback. i think it might be best to just break up with her.. sigh.



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10 Nov 2011, 5:59 am

I had a similar situation but my one was more forced on by her peers. Going through with it is no good, I don't know how I sleep at night when I didn't feel the same but I feared of the thoughts of how I would be abused. Abused by most if not all my peers for not feeling the same, so don't do it when it's not feeling right to you.



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10 Nov 2011, 7:43 am

Just tell her that it just isn't working and that you would prefer to end things now than to let things spiral out of control. You can ask if you can still be friends but dating may not work out. If she asks why, you could say that "the chemistry just isn't there" or something to that effect. Don't make it about her weight. :)



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10 Nov 2011, 7:59 am

Erisad wrote:
Just tell her that it just isn't working and that you would prefer to end things now than to let things spiral out of control. You can ask if you can still be friends but dating may not work out. If she asks why, you could say that "the chemistry just isn't there" or something to that effect. Don't make it about her weight. :)

^^^this is perfect. do not mention her appearance in any way.


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