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MCalavera
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14 Dec 2011, 8:52 am

People are in relationships and marriages for all sorts of reasons, possibly least of which is that the spouses/"lovers" are attracted to each other.

There's attraction. There's power (the desire to manipulate and be in control). There's business (I see a good future with her as my wife). And there's pride (Some desire relationships for the sake of being proud of themselves).

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14 Dec 2011, 8:54 am

And there is *gasp* *shock* love.



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14 Dec 2011, 8:56 am

deconstruction wrote:
And there is *gasp* *shock* love.


Love is a very vague word. I think it should go with attraction in the context of this topic.



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14 Dec 2011, 9:11 am

MCalavera wrote:
deconstruction wrote:
And there is *gasp* *shock* love.


Love is a very vague word. I think it should go with attraction in the context of this topic.


No. Love is not attraction, though, arguably, attraction is part of love, but there are more stuff there. I mean, all the things you named: the attraction, pride, etc. are vague.

Call me a hopeless romantic, but I do think love is the main reason most people marry.



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14 Dec 2011, 9:14 am

I added some elaborations in the parentheses so that it'd be clear what I meant by each term. You, on the other hand, have made no attempt to explain what you mean by "love".

To me, there's no difference between "attraction" and "romantic love". Show me how exactly I'm wrong.



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14 Dec 2011, 9:28 am

MCalavera wrote:
To me, there's no difference between "attraction" and "romantic love". Show me how exactly I'm wrong.


On a simplest level:

Attraction = You want to f..k their brains out.
Love = You want to share your life with them (living together, sharing the good and the bad, helping each other, sharing physical and mental intimacy).



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14 Dec 2011, 9:47 am

deconstruction wrote:
And there is *gasp* *shock* love.


The horror!! What's that thing?



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14 Dec 2011, 9:52 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
deconstruction wrote:
And there is *gasp* *shock* love.


The horror!! What's that thing?


You have to feel it yourself to know. :P



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14 Dec 2011, 11:22 am

I desire a relationship for companionship. Things like love & attraction develop over time after I know the person more.


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14 Dec 2011, 4:23 pm

nick007 wrote:
I desire a relationship for companionship. Things like love & attraction develop over time after I know the person more.


Yep, desire for a relationship/marriage is a good factor.

Pity is another one.

Affection with no attraction is yet another one (which is what deconstruction was probably referring to).



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14 Dec 2011, 4:33 pm

affection != love. i feel affection (and even love) towards friends and family, but it is not the same as romantic love.


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14 Dec 2011, 4:37 pm

hyperlexian wrote:
affection != love. i feel affection (and even love) towards friends and family, but it is not the same as romantic love.


Ok, describe "romantic love" without attraction.



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14 Dec 2011, 4:38 pm

MCalavera wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
affection != love. i feel affection (and even love) towards friends and family, but it is not the same as romantic love.


Ok, describe "romantic love" without attraction.

i can't. attraction is part of it for me. not the whole thing, but one aspect.


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14 Dec 2011, 4:40 pm

MCalavera wrote:
People are in relationships and marriages for all sorts of reasons, possibly least of which is that the spouses/"lovers" are attracted to each other.

There's attraction. There's power (the desire to manipulate and be in control). There's business (I see a good future with her as my wife). And there's pride (Some desire relationships for the sake of being proud of themselves).

Discuss and have fun discussing.


Attraction starts off the whole process, though. Whether it's physical or more about personality, some sort of attraction starts it off.



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14 Dec 2011, 5:26 pm

MCalavera wrote:
Affection with no attraction is yet another one (which is what deconstruction was probably referring to).


No, deconstruction was referring to love. Attraction and affection are part of love. (At least for me).



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14 Dec 2011, 6:39 pm

hyperlexian wrote:
affection != love. i feel affection (and even love) towards friends and family, but it is not the same as romantic love.

It's different for me. I love my family but I do not feel affection towards them. I do NOT feel affection towards anyone unless I were to feel emotionally close/intimate/comfortable with em. It takes aLOT for me to get to that level with someone which is another reason why I need a relationship. I function better when I have someone that I'm really close to & I can not get that without becoming attached & dependent on being with them


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