"dying alone"

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I was talking to someone on Deviant Art today in a poll about if this plant girl...thing from Sonic X should be introduced to the comics. Sonic X has a hardcore hate among many Sonic fans because it supposedly isn't "canon" to the games. Most people said she should so Tails can finnaly have a girlfriend. I will never understand why so many Sonic fans feel the desire to pair off every single character in the franchise. I said that I don't feel Tails really needs a girlfriend. Because he's only eight or thirteen years old, but mostly becuase I see him as being too preoccupied with his machines and inventions to even consider dating and is just too much of a "married to the job" type. The girl who started the poll said the following:
"I'm not a pairing person btw, and its not like Tails is gonna NEVER EVER date or get married JUST cause you wanna die alone. *stare*" I don't think she meant anything against me by that comment and I don't hold any negative feelings towards her for it; but it got me wondering, extactaly what is so wrong with wanting to die alone? "Dying alone" seems to have a very negative vibe to it in general. But then in today's society it seems that everyone's goal in life is to get knocked up before they turn 17. Many comments about people who are unpopular consist of the following: "Ha ha, I bet the looser is still a virgin".

They're just projecting their own hates and fears. They don't want to die alone. Humans are social creatures. The moment of death is seen as your weakest and most vulnerable moment; the time when you want to be surrounded by people you love. It's not surprising that they're afraid of the idea.

They say things like "I bet that lose is still a virgin", because they want to justify treating someone as an inferior. They'll find any reason. Gender, race, religion, etc.

I don't think people necessarily want to get knocked up by 17. I mean, men can't get pregnant without asking to be a medical experiment, lul. They just want to have sex, which is seen as a milestone. And at the moment of opportunity, they don't care about their future. Sort of like how people smoke or eat badly, without caring about their health. Or global warming. They don't care about long term consequences.

By the way, my impression is that she did try to insult you in a personal matter.

I guess I meant "laid". I always thought "knocked up" and "laid" were synomous with each other.

Getting "knocked up" means to be impregnated, while getting laid means to have sex. I'm sure it's not a phrase you care to be familiar with, so it's not too strange you'd confuse the meaning.

[Moved from General Autism Discussion to Love and Dating]

I always wondered why living and dying alone was considered a bad thing. It's almost like society considers any living arrangement besides one with a romantic partner to be inferior. From the time I've spent watching my siblings and my parents struggle with their relationships, sometimes I wonder why people even bother with romance at all. It seems like most of the time, the negatives outweigh the positives. But then again, I'm pretty pessimistic so I tend to view every situation in a negative light.

i mean honestly what does it mean to "die alone" is it just implying that u die without(atm) being married to someone, or does it mean u literally die without anyone at ur side(friends, family, nursing home empolyees)

the way i see it dying alone is very hard to do, requires u to push away people, i some cases animals and in other cases government employees

on a side note: i completely agree that trying to pair tails with a girlfriend is kinda odd considering his age
but then again it is a cartoon and in the cartoon lov knows no age and as far as i know in sonics world the age of consent could be 8

and then if u realy want to get into it, 8 in dog years is pretty old(52 i think) so how old is 8 in two tailed fox years?

for all we know tails could be going through a mid life crisis

Last edited by Zinnel on 31 Jan 2012, 10:42 pm, edited 2 times in total.

I think she was teasing you, and she was far from making a good point. Best ignored.

Plus, I see you were more occupied with the subject of 'dying alone', in my opnion it's a bit absurd, because a lonely parson and a married person both part ways with the world when they die. It's important to live a good life, but you shouldn't live life because of negative predictions about how you'll die. I don't see the point in that.

The media believes that no one can end up single and that every single major character has to end up with someone and make beautiful children. My gosh is it annoying. I wish that media didn't convey dying alone as such a bad thing. Some people stay single for life because they choose to be. Marriage isn't for everyone and this viewpoint appears to be contradictory to anything in Hollywood. It would love to be able to watch more movies where some characters stay single because it would be a lot more realistic and less cliche. The idea of romance came from the media anyways.

Even if you pair up, one of you goes first. The other often dies alone.

And even if you are paired up, it's still not the norm to die in hospital during visiting hours. Most of us are going to die alone.

Although everybody needing to have a romantic partner thing in the media can cause people to think that it needs to be that way in real life, I don't think it's all that bad. I think the media puts out movies, TV shows and books portraying romantic relationships in order to give people an outlet for romance if they're unwilling or able to pursue romance in real life. For example, although I'm pretty cynical about romance in real life and act accordingly, deep down inside I'm actually like a lovesick puppy and I pair off as many of my favorite fictional characters as I can in the fanart that I draw.

Nevertheless, here are some of my favorite examples of characters who don't wind up in a romantic relationship:

In the movie Edward Scissorhands, although Edward falls in love with a girl named Kim, they don't wind up together in the end. While Edward ends up alone, it's sort of implied that he can't die (at least not by aging like normal humans).

In another Tim Burton movie, Alice in Wonderland, Alice is almost forced into an arranged marriage at the beginning, but she's actually perfectly happy being by herself so she doesn't go through with it. She doesn't even choose to stay in Wonderland with her platonic friend, the Mad Hatter. Instead, she decides to pursue her own goals.

In My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, none of the main characters actively pursue romantic relationships, or even talk about it at all (with the exception of Rarity's crush on Prince Blueblood, which was short-lived). That is pretty rare considering it's a show aimed at girls and most cartoons geared towards girls feature characters who do nothing but talk about getting boyfriends.

I don't care if I die alone.

Why would I?

I'm dead.

I find it quite dumb that people assume everyone has to pair up.

I think it's implied that the Sonic characters age at the same rate as people. In Japanese folklore, kitsunes/foxes with aditional tails are immortal.




Yeah me too. It seems as if no one tries to pair up Eggman but then in the Sonic X comics, it's hinted that he has the hots for the Thorndike's housekeeper. Cream the rabbit never seems to be paired with anyone unless its Tails. As much as I like to think of Tails as being single, he and Cream do kinda make a cute "first grade romance" couple.

Even in Lion King, everyone seems to feel the urge to make up girlfriends for Timon and others think he and Pumbaa are boyfriend and boyfriend. I even see people make up meerkat boyfriends for Timon Timon just screams aromantic asexual to me. I think Pumbaa and Simba are his adopted brothers. But anway, I don't think I've seen anyone else who sees Timon happy being single.

I think it means that most people who are alone are not alone by choice. Granted, there are many people who for whatever reason prefer to never pair up in a long term relationship, there are probably more who aren't in relationships but would prefer to be in one. The former are perfectly happy to spend their lives alone. The latter are usually very lonely.

If a person would like to be in a relationship and for some reason can't find one, and especially if they have never been in one, they may feel that they have spent their lives with no one to love them. Of course this doesn't mean their family doesn't love them, but a different kind of love. Romantic love. It can be much more satisfying on an emotional level because that person chose to love you, they didn't just automatically love you because you are related to them.

So, I think what she was saying to you was that she assumes you don't want to ever have a romantic partner (referred to with slang as "dying alone" - aka without a spouse) but that most other people do want one.

As for the actual moment of death, most married couples die at different times, so you may be romantically "alone" at the time of death, even though you may have friends, family, hospital staff, etc around.

It is. It's also a tremendous risk, as people find out when they get their heart broken. That's why I'm happy single.