If each gender saw itself through the others eyes...

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even for a few minutes, what do you think the outcome would be? What do you think guys would do different as a result? What do you think women would do different as a result?

Since you've got us started, I'll peel back the lid a bit more.

I think it could be an enlightening experience. I think both parties could come to an understanding that each sex has it's difficulties.

They'd realize there is not as much difference between the two as society would like us to think.

Aaaand we're done.

Good job, e'erbody!

Lol I was actually just about to post this but you beat me to it.

I absolutely agree and think the more experience someone has with people of the opposite gender in different capacities, the more apparent this becomes.

lol, you beat me to posting this.

More importantly though I think both would be blown away, maybe even moved to tears. It seems like negative translates into words or salience quicker than warmth.

Whereas some would be very immature about it, others would see that there isn't much difference between the two genders which may benefit them both.

Am I the only one who thinks it would be a major revelation to see how they're seen and how off point they'd realize they are about how they're read and perceived or am I being crazy high-thinking and recondite again?

Personally, I would be interested and maybe scared, to see how others in general see me and I don't think you're being "crazy high-thinking and recondite."

I do think you might be over-thinking things, though, and sometimes it seems like you are hyper-focusing on lines between the genders that never really needed to be drawn in the first place.

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I probably was thinking too high . What I was getting at was the global 'substance' and emotion of a person or concept seen externally. In that sense it might be that seeing yourself through pretty much anyone else's eyes could be that mindblowing but to be sure there are extra components at work, at least if both involved are hetero.

I think the gender stuff I was getting at - I see a lot of shots taken at male sex drive and seeming shallowness on certain things but its tough to tell that women have the full sense of what things look and feel like. Similarly I'm sure there are certain things about women see and feel the world that a guy could never reverse-engineer his way into seeing simply because so much of it is an incidental construct. IMHO the differences in human experience, between gender, between people even, are still cavernous - regardless of how much we have in common from the immediate logical standpoint; it seems like there's an incredibly wide plain of emotion, of where personal center is and how consciousness feels, how it reassembles the outside world.... meh, I'll shut up. I'm embarrassing myself again.

i don't subjectively feel any difference between me and a male though. i sometimes don't relate to what individual male or females say, but that doesn't mean i can't relate to either gender in general.

i think that when men or women assert that the other gender cannot understand, it is the easy way out. usually they are arguing something that is not supported by science or research, and since they cannot really defend it they claim it just cannot be fathomed by the opposite sex.

i.e. "i NEED to get my hair done at the salon. it's a guy thing. you wouldn't understand."

men and women are often socialised differently though, but instead of trying to emphasise that disparity i think our energy is best spent minimising or eliminating those differences - or finding more common ground.

But being able to intellectually 'get' something isn't the same as being able to subjectively experience, especially in big picture terms. Hence the real weight and power of what was really meant in the original question.