Guys, we all lost according to ladder theory!

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Yep well said ladder theory.

http://www.laddertheory.com/

This applies that why me and rest of aspie guys on here are losing at this game. I want a true love long term relationship. To the extend of the ladder theory, it not going to happen......................

I guess this is purpose of why I am struggling......I lost and still losing at this. Competitive for genetic diversity. My generation is at loss. I guess its biggest concern that I'm becoming extinct.

So are we gone?

idunno, this thing sounds like a load of bull ot me; the male part doesn't apply to me anyway, so either the theory is wrong, or i'm doomed by default becouse i operate further outside of everyone then i thought...

The ladder theory seems to discount the LBGT males, and people already in relationships. It also seems to be based from a personal standpoint and pitched to individuals that will agree based on their lack of dating prowess.

Those examples are definitely common but they are not the rule of thumb. With that in mind I'd say it's a theory short of a few rungs. I'm doing quite well, and before I was taken I've had some female friends for years that are attractive that I frankly wouldn't go down that road with based on their quirks.

Sorry, how does ladder theory mean that all men with AS are doomed?

I honestly think that the author's idea of what women are attracted to is a load of bull as well. It's basically saying that all women are attracted to jerks that will run off from us, or are shallow enough to only care about money/power, and looks...

1. Ladder Theory does not work for every possibility.
2. People change their ladders after wanting rich and attractive.
3. So your telling me that women will put up with and marry an abusive guy that holds a knife to her throat because he is rich and attractive? Please... The only reason they would stay with a man like that is out of fear.

The fact that such a theory has even been hypothesized gives me little hope for the continuation of the human race.

That said, said theory does not apply to myself or my girlfriend. How do you like them apples, motherf**ker?

You have to find ways to climb higher on the ladder.

And yes, there's some truth in it, it's called sexual selection.

And sexual selection was never 'fair'.

It doesn't discount them in the explanation. The explanation itself is about how there have to be a set of conditions for men and women to be friends - conditions I think are absolutely true. As for the theory, I think it makes a lot of sense for most men I know. Not for me personally, though, as I've had neither relationships nor friendships with women so far.

Unfortunately, these theories touch upon our basic human instincts. And even with all the technology, laws and other fail-safes we've developed, we're still subconsciously using the logic of killing and reproducing. The anger you feel when someone does something offensive is the anger a beta lion would feel when an alpha male blocked his path. The jealousy you feel is your sense of entitlement, your wish for conditions more suitable for reproduction.

Where the ladder theory does apply, all one can do is climb

Putting a positive spin on the Ladder Theory:
Let's say the ladder theory is a general theory. Pushing it over will not bring things down to your level. All it does is stop you from getting to where you want to go and you will have to prop the ladder up and start all over again. Imagine what you are aiming for is on a ledge, and ladder is a metaphor of the challenges you must overcome and the heights you must ascend to get what it is you want in life.

I haven't read it all yet but it's hilarious so far.

Snore, read this like 6-7 years ago.

This research paper Idiocracy claims society will continue to procreate with its dumbest individuals until we finally becomes so dumb that we will actually starve to death of stupidity.

I highly recommend checking it out.

Thanks for sharing this Ladder Theory. My problem with women is I'm not aggressive or outright. I don't approach women or reciprocate advances. I like the explanations as they give me some codification to dating.

"If you are very attractive, rich, and novel and show no interest in her she is almost guaranteed to want to f*ck you. Indeed, isn't this the very definition of Alpha Male?"

Agreed. I'm middle class working towards a career that will put me into upper middle class or high class. I don't consider myself very attractive but I think I'm good looking to a certain extent. If I had more money and interest I could tan, work out more, buy better clothes, etc. and be even better looking. I have no interest in most women unless it's sexual attraction or if she's interested in math. The being-an-asshole theory is a well founded theory. It worked for me I've seen it work for other people. I think having Asperger's makes me an a**hole but I do come off as a nice boy sometimes too. If you're interested in the being-an-asshole theory, check out Tom Leykis. He's a fat, ugly, rich radio host whose infamous for getting men laid and himself laid by hot, beautiful women. I believe he follows the ladder theory when he gives advice.

"First you get the money, then you get the power, then you get the woman"
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJ7HZATMKBY[/youtube]

I've been believing this and following this since I've been going to college. Maybe it's the Asperger's in me.


"Ladder Construction"

"1. The people we really want, who may even be out of our league, are on top.
2. Then come the people we like.
3. Moving further down we pass the people who we would f**k if we were intoxicated and would admit to doing it later.
4. At the bottom are the people we would f**k drunk, and would lie about doing it later."

I do this all the time. Most men I know do this too.

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"Tom meets Jane. She's cute and seems smart. After an appropriate amount of time he asks her out on a date. She acccepts and they have what seems to be a perfectly nice date. Tom thinks he has a chance with Jane. He asks her out again. She says no, either explicitly or by never returning his phone call. Tom has no idea what the Hell just happened. Jane starts f*****g an unemployed alcoholic."

LMFAO. This is so true.


"Tom Leykis on being an as*hole"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qxs2M_S ... re=related

"Tom Leykis says stop being a gentleman. Chivalry is for pu*sified men."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3Vyd2mG ... re=related

"Tom Leykis - Talks about nice don't get laid"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzMrUc6e204

"Tom Leykis --- Women are sex objects"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amwNk2Rg ... ure=relmfu

"Tom Leykis --- Fat Women are for poor loser men"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amwNk2Rg ... ure=relmfu

"Tom Leykis--- Looks or Brains"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH_F-GHl ... ure=relmfu

"Tom Leykis--- What's your game plan?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDfKHXrn ... re=related

"Tom Leykis--- Women want to be Taken" (Perfect Ladder Theory Example)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY798g60 ... re=related

I would have posted more videos but most of them were taken down since he started his radio show again. Good for more if you're interested.

I really don't see how people with Asperger's lose with this theory.

Please read the website again. You will find the author's response to your statement.

You mean THIS one?



How profound, NOT!