Creepzoned?

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How many guys have been creepzoned? This is one step below being friendzoned, and maybe one step above getting arrested.

Guys seem to get creepzoned for a lot of reasons, but the main ones seem to include:

1. Having an exaggerated sense of one's own sexual desirability.

2. Disclosing too much personal information.

3. Staring at a woman's 'attributes' instead of making eye contact.

4. Asking too many personal questions.

5. Making too much or too little eye contact.

6. Playing the role of a "Secret Admirer".

7. Following her around or purposely showing up wherever she goes (Stalking).

8. Finding out everything you can about her online (Cyberstalking).

9. Repeatedly asking for a date and refusing to take 'No' for an answer.

What else?

Please keep it real, and without misogyny.

Last edited by Fnord on 03 Dec 2012, 2:03 am, edited 1 time in total.

Those seem to be the most real creepy reasons you posted. The rest are just throwing a label for the sake of it. Its things some guys can get away with but most cant (not good looking enough).

Yes, but what else? Do you have anything to contribute?

I just contributed by showing a variance in reasoning for the label.

10. Providing non-constructive criticism.

9. Taking pictures or videos of them, whether or not you ask for it
10. Saying some things that are supposed to be friendly, but the way you say it makes you sound weird. I once said hi to a girl walking by me, but it was a long, toned hi so she turned around and told me to stop being such a creep, in front of a bunch of other boys. Not sure if my level of anger or embarrasment was higher

fixed that for you

11. Being overly negative / complaining too much.


BTW, love this new phrase... I hope it catches on for awareness' sake! "Creepzoned"...

Last edited by BlueMax on 03 Dec 2012, 2:40 am, edited 1 time in total.

I have an idea for this thread. As a way to better categorize things. Items in bold are things that are seen as valid claims for what is creepy. And things in italics for what is seen as not worthy of the creep label.

shyness / not knowing what to say in a conversation - yes I've heard this, yes.

Unwelcomed physical contact, especially after being informed that it is unwelcomed.

Similar to the above, inappropriate touching, such as leaning into another person's body or groping.

Making frequent comments about another's body or physical appearance. Even if it's a compliment, if I don't know someone, I do not want to know what someone thinks of my body on a daily basis.

My dog was shivering when we walked outside so I made a dog-sweater thing for her and this guy said "Mia looks gay, I should make her suck my c*ck." and from that moment on that's all I associate him with. I get that he was trying to be funny but he doesn't know me and I don't know him well enough to shrug it off. He creeps me out.

It's so hard to define by specific actions because it's about how a person makes you feel, which is, I think, why it's easy to dismiss or call unfair. It's also frustrating because if someone calls another person creepy, there's not a lot the person can do to prove they aren't creepy.

Very good point.

Creepiness is in the eye of the beholder. A person may be creepy to one person and perfectly acceptable to another.

The sense that a particular person is creepy is a reaction to that person. It is not an inherent attribute of the person. If I sit at a table, staring blankly across the room and another person finds this behavior creepy, that is their own valid response to my behavior. It may be wrong and it may be an over reaction, but that doesn't change that person's reaction. So finding another person creepy is a state of mind existing in the person doing the reaction. It is not an attribute of the person who is seen as creepy.

I think one thing that makes a person come across as creepy is when their behavior is unpredictable and their intentions are difficult to assess. For example, someone who keeps appearing at your place of work, near your home, near your friends's home etc, yet will not ask for a date is creepy because it is unclear what that person's intentions are. Do they want the pleasure of your company or are they planning to kill you? It can be hard to determine.

A person who, however innocently, fumbles at doing the common social rituals of expressing interest and asking for a date, can come across as creepy if their intentions are unclear.

I had a crush on a girl in college. We had gone on one sort of date. I liked to hang around her when I could, even if there wasn't a good reason. We were both in the theatre department and there is a sort of artificial intimacy that develops in theatre where everyone must work closely to put on a show. At one point we were both working backstage and there was a lull in the work. She was seated on a table. I sat on the table, leaning my back against her's. I was hoping she would find this physical closeness appealing and would lean back against me. Instead she launched herself off the table and got away from me.

I had seen others behave in this kind of physically close manner and hoped I could impersonate someone who was comfortable with this sort of casual physical intimacy. What I didn't understand is that in order to engage in this kind of physical closeness, I would have needed to develop a deeper friendship with her than I had. Because our friendship was not at the necessary level, I grossly overstepped her personal space and she had every right to find my behavior inappropriate.

My point is that because I was trying to bypass the difficult process of developing intimacy with this woman, I behaved in an inappropriately intimate manner. Because I had no clue how to how to form a closer friendship and I wanted to force that friendship into existence, I did things that, while innocent, made her uncertain of what she could expect from me. I wanted to act out a kind of relationship I had not done the work to develop. My intentions might have been decent, but she had no way to be certain that I would behave decently. I assume she thought I was creepy. She certainly had every right to.

Anyway, that's my long way of saying I think unpredictable and inappropriate behavior, however well intentioned, makes a person come across as creepy.

"Creepiness is in the eye of the beholder. A person may be creepy to one person and perfectly acceptable to another."

Not always. There are opinions, and then there is...creepiness. (is that even a word?).

Sending me sexual fuelled innuendos when I have categorically said "NO" to someone...that is creepy.

In my opinion, a person only becomes creepy if they step over the mark, of what is reasonably acceptable. There is a guy at work that flirts a lot with women in general. The other day we crossed paths in one of the corridors. I was on my mobile phone. He was throwing kisses at me and gesticulating that I looked good. Some would consider this creepy. I laughed it off. Keep in mind I am *not* remotely interested in him, but he really didn't do anything that I would consider creepy. He didn't touch me, he was just being silly and I thought no more of it. If he did it on a regular basis though, then I would have a word and tell him he was overstepping the boundaries. Once it is OK, more than once it starts to get annoying. If despite all this he continued then THAT would be creepy.

Unfortunately, meems, you are right on the money.

Take me for example. I don't have to do anything creepy; I just get that label thrown on me. And trying to prove you're not creepy just makes you seem, well, more creepy.

creepy is not even close to friendzoned. Try just above pedofile.

Theres a term called friendzoned to adress the behavior that leads to a girl putting you on a friends list and not wanting something more with you.

He is trying to come up with his own term to adress behaviour that leads to a girl thinking you are a creep.

Quite a few members can be mistakenly labelled as creeps because of lack of understandement of social rules and whatnot so I think this could be a helpful thread