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mellisamouse
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24 Apr 2012, 2:59 am

attitude of gradditiude/

BOY


no, but letting a f**k you attitude around me took away my glory is all I am saying...

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29 minutes ago
boy



\choose your battles




you took the f**k you way too literally you know that right

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girl



you havent understood a word I have said... this was not a battle, it was sharing a secret

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28 minutes ago
boy



lol




that turned into a battle and hasnt changed anything




waste of time




cuz you cant respect my view... its either your way or its wrong

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28 minutes ago
girl



not a battle on my side... just explaining a simple thing\

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27 minutes ago
boy

let me be me. seriously

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27 minutes ago
girl


explaining and agruing are not the same I thought, but oh well...

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27 minutes ago
boy



thats the most repeated quote people say about me... the thing everyone misses... I miss the ben who didnt give a s**t




cuz he said f**k it\




love me for it

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26 minutes ago
girl



your taking offence is seriously weird.... too much ego and pride.. seriously have ahard time understanding why sharing knowlege would make someone mad and defensive....

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26 minutes ago
boy



Im not mad




you just keep pushing your idea on me and you wont let it go until I either see it your way and accpet or it escilates itno a fight\

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25 minutes ago
girl



you asked me to back off of something that I never knew was an argument...




going pee...

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25 minutes ago
boy



cuz you told me my attitude is wrong




I am trusting this attitude cuz I know it works... I just need time to ajust to it againi

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25 minutes ago
girl


I never said you were wrong, I just said I know how people do it that get it right... I really do...

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24 minutes ago
boy


yeah its is basically saying "you cant do it right that way" "do it this way"




thats all I hear




thats how I hear it




I accepted you view and I like it because it works for you... I dont tell you otherwise... but you are telling me my way is wrong like Im uninformed and missing out on the big secret




let me feel like I know something. cuaz I do know things... I just forgot how to apply them




ok

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40 minutes ago
girl



ok.... show me then.... show me... prove it to me\

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40 minutes ago
Boy



can you just accept that and tewll me you love me




Im here to get better




you dont realize stuff until its too late sometimes

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39 minutes ago
girl



I do love you... just tired of you shooting yourself and us in the foot, when we can have it all

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39 minutes ago
boy



you need an eyeopener sometimes




k your bring up the past




we are starting fresh




I know what needs to be done ok




I need you to show me that you trust me from once




I need faith

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38 minutes ago
girl



not the past... trying to fortify the future with what I know works... ther is no way in hell you read rich dad poor dad...

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37 minutes ago
boy

K Im going

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37 minutes ago
girl



ok, peeind and a smoke... I have no idea what you atre trying to show me besides taking offence and pride..

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37 minutes ago
boy


you need to let me be me!

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37 minutes ago
girl



ok, let me knoe when that gets you everything you want in life...

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36 minutes ago
boy


let me say f**k you to a problem without you become one yourself with your enlightening knowladge




Im so tired of people telling me how to actr and who to be\

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36 minutes ago
girl



f**k you sends you more f**k you... pretty basic sense ther.. thank you sends you thank you... WOW< why is this confusing??

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36 minutes ago
boy


?




move on

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35 minutes ago
girl



bye

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35 minutes ago
boy



stop trying to prove your point cuz I have a point of my own... Im a human being too




how did this even turn into a fight.... I was telling you how Im ready to tell my problems to f**k off ... or get lost... whatever way you want me to word it... and now Im wrong for that because I should be saying thank you....




did that seriously just happen




we cant both be right... just one of us can be right... is that how its supposed to work?

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31 minutes ago
girl



ok tell your problems to f**k off.. fine.... then you are focused on provlems.... saying thank you for what youm have just gives you more.... universal law...

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31 minutes ago
boy


OMG!




are you serious

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30 minutes ago
girl



Itr does!

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30 minutes ago
boy


whatever!! !! !! !! !! !! !!

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30 minutes ago
girl



Yes, it is is sooooo simple....

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30 minutes ago
boy



soo simple yet you had to tell me... well Im a f*****g ret*d\




you know what




I have to go

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29 minutes ago
girl



why this offends you I will never understand... pretty logical and time tested and true...




Yeah... I seriosly have NO clue why you are offended,,,,, completely baffled..




k..... night....

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17 minutes ago
boy



hi

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17 minutes ago
girl


This is like one of those conversations I wish I could show on display where or how it went wrong becausen I am truly baffled...

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17 minutes ago
boy



my new copping strategy is to walk away and get a clear head when I start getting upset
lol no show it

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17 minutes ago
boy



seriously

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16 minutes ago
girl


ok

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16 minutes ago
boy



I think we also need a skrink

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15 minutes ago
boy



cuz there are things we both do that need to be thrown on the table
someone netural... not eachothers friends on facebook... cuz that always comes out bias
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15 minutes ago
girl


Yeah, probly, but I am really just telling you inseder info... ask anyone who is indepenadntly waelthy... they will all echo the same thing... :S

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14 minutes ago
boy



I respect that that is your opinion but it is not mine




this is were you say ok




and I say I love you




and you say I love you too

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14 minutes ago
girl



it is not an opinion to me... to me it is unrefutable evidence,,

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13 minutes ago
boy


lol I just said as clear as possible that I understand that and can we move on....




c'mon...




if you had the f**k it attitude this would been over before it even started




dogs say f**k it all the time\




just not in english




lol cmon lighten up

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11 minutes ago
girl



not really, they have more grattitude through one dog in a day than the entire human race in a day... so they are happy as s**t, because they are happy and thakful.... fu dogs bite people and get put down...

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10 minutes ago
boy



just post this




start at wow.... we can talk in private this time...

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10 minutes ago
girl


gather me all the people you know who are millionaires or bigger, and then I will risk the bad energy for it..

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9 minutes ago
boy



do the whole thing from their




post it online...




put it online somewhere




Im so serious

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8 minutes ago
girl



show me people wjo have tried it... show me the results...

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7 minutes ago
boy



are you listening to chong chow the asian billionair again?

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7 minutes ago
girl



ok, pick some millionaire site... we will post it.

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7 minutes ago
boy


lol ok go for it




lol




lol its actualy really embarresing




I just look bad cuz of my spelling

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5 minutes ago
girl


no. I come form people who know.... they travle the world all year long.... name me amyone with a bad attitude that does that... they can win the lottery and loose it in a week.... read about that scenario... it is sad but sooo common none of it sticks... winnig millions they are broke again in weeks...

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5 minutes ago
boy


its not a bad attitude... what cant you get about it




all the richest beople in the world are scumbags




nasty creaters that think their better

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4 minutes ago
girl



Ok, show me I am wrong... SHOW me... I am tring to help yopu here, not argue,,, I am actually tring to show you the obvious!

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4 minutes ago
boy



you wanna get into this BS seriously./.. what happened to you




just forget it all

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3 minutes ago
girl



nothing.... just thought you could see something clear as day... never have seen anyone be soooo offende n=by sucj=h a simple truth... it looks whacky to me

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3 minutes ago
boy



you just have to be right... we cant both be right.,... its just you who can be right... Im f*****g discusted in you... maybe it is you who is making me go crazy

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3 minutes ago
girl



no....not about being right... just common sense

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2 minutes ago
boy



whatever hope you're commen sense keeps you warm t night because Im telling my problem to f**k off




subborn go away

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2 minutes ago
Mellisa Stokergirl


ok... hope that makesd you ricjh]

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2 minutes ago
boy



I dont need to be rich to be happy




dont know when that changed cuz you sure have




go get your money

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a few seconds ago
girl



not at all. don;t need money... just need bad attitude to leave my life so blessings can pour in,,,,,,,, simple

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24 Apr 2012, 3:06 am

Mellisamouse, I... have no idea what's going on here. I can't read it, and I don't know what it is. :?

Can you explain?


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24 Apr 2012, 3:07 am

I am so :? right now



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24 Apr 2012, 3:08 am

Inyanook wrote:
Mellisamouse, I... have no idea what's going on here. I can't read it, and I don't know what it is. :?

Can you explain?


I believe in an attitude of gradditude for success... he thinks saying f the world will get him ahead... I have never seen an FU succedd.. :S



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24 Apr 2012, 3:16 am

mellisamouse wrote:
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Mellisamouse, I... have no idea what's going on here. I can't read it, and I don't know what it is. :?

Can you explain?


I believe in an attitude of gradditude for success... he thinks saying f the world will get him ahead... I have never seen an FU succedd.. :S


Okay, well... yeah, positive attitude is good. From what I can see you were maybe being a little bit too black-and-white and you should perhaps have let it go and allowed him to have a different opinion, but in principle I agree with you. A positive outlook on life is healthier than a negative one.

Can I just suggest you edit your post into something more like "My boyfriend (or whatever he is) and I were having an argument over whether an attitude of gratitude and positivity toward life is better than an attitude of 'f*** the world' in terms of success in life. What do you think?"

Because currently it is unreadable, far too long, and difficult to figure out what is going on. Just letting you know. :)


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24 Apr 2012, 8:20 am

1. You need to put this in a more readable format.
I'd suggest something like:

Boy: Says something
Girl: Replies
Boy: Says soemthing else too

Also, I think your thread title should be changed to something like "Need outside opinions" which is a more accurate description of what you are looking for.

2. It sounds to me like you both just have different translations/viewpoints. I think you are misunderstanding eachother's words.
It does not look to me like he is saying "F the world" but rather more like "whatever, no sense worring about things, F it." like a more laid back approach to problems. You can't be thankful to problems so it seems to me like you didn't understand what he is talking about. Dogs are both thankful AND laid back. They don't worry, they take it as it comes. I think that is what he means by "F it"

3. Even if he really does think "F the world - I hate everyone" I don't think it is correct to assert that your viewpoint is right and his is wrong. Maybe yours is more likely to produce sucess and "F the world" is more likely to produce bitterness... but when he says "can't you just let me be me" you should learn to respect that. If you can't deal with his attitude, finding a new boyfriend would be a more logical step than trying to change him. People should be able to share viewpoints without arguing (and trust me I've dated plenty of people who think an opposing viewpoint = argument) but once again, if that's the way he sees things your conversation style may not be compatible. I like debates and I need someone who can handle that and not consider it a personal attack. You may need the same thing.

This really seems like a simple misunderstanding but I am also seeing some potential conversation style incompatability.


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24 Apr 2012, 8:33 am

here was y final reply.... because if you could hear tone of voice in a darn text, it wouls be soooo different.... My tone was pleasant in my head until now... here was my final reply..




NOT personal.... NOT stomping on your pride.... if anyone papmpers your ego THAT much, by telling you NOT swimming won't kill you, to fluff your ego, then THAT person has NOOOOO respect for you, Anyone who humours you to that extent has no repect for you, and just tells you what you wanna hear because they think you are hopeles.... Sorry for respecting you more than that..


In other words, to me.... letting someone be self destructive is not my deal... He allways complains he is cursed and nothing goes his way... so why would I be an enabler of the very thing hurting him?



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24 Apr 2012, 8:35 am

Well judging from what I read...it seems like he was trying quite calmly to explain to you, that he felt you where kind of pushing your opinion which was getting to him so he wanted you to back off and leave it alone....but you kept pushing and pushing, so he tried to explain his perspective only to have you continue to say how you're right and he's wrong only making him more frusterated. Maybe he wanted to move on from the topic because he did not feel like arguing...and didn't want to say anything you would take offense to but you forced it out of him anyways and still got offended.

Also maybe he's had experiences in life that have contributed to his attitude and how he perceives things telling someone they are 100 wrong on all that usually does not go over to well. Also maybe your view on the matter isn't perfect either.


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24 Apr 2012, 8:39 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
Well judging from what I read...it seems like he was trying quite calmly to explain to you, that he felt you where kind of pushing your opinion which was getting to him so he wanted you to back off and leave it alone....but you kept pushing and pushing, so he tried to explain his perspective only to have you continue to say how you're right and he's wrong only making him more frusterated. Maybe he wanted to move on from the topic because he did not feel like arguing...and didn't want to say anything you would take offense to but you forced it out of him anyways and still got offended.


Maybe you are right and i don't see it.... after listening to someone complain for a year and a half that they are cursed and nothing ever works for them, I guess I have given up on this conversation with him,...... I am tired oif hearing F the world, and then cleaning up after his consequenses every time it back fires on him....



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24 Apr 2012, 8:41 am

Well if there is a longer history here none of us can comment on that because we don't know you as a couple or your history.

We can only speculate on this one isolated incident.


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24 Apr 2012, 8:42 am

mellisamouse wrote:
here was y final reply.... because if you could hear tone of voice in a darn text, it wouls be soooo different.... My tone was pleasant in my head until now... here was my final reply..




NOT personal.... NOT stomping on your pride.... if anyone papmpers your ego THAT much, by telling you NOT swimming won't kill you, to fluff your ego, then THAT person has NOOOOO respect for you, Anyone who humours you to that extent has no repect for you, and just tells you what you wanna hear because they think you are hopeles.... Sorry for respecting you more than that..


In other words, to me.... letting someone be self destructive is not my deal... He allways complains he is cursed and nothing goes his way... so why would I be an enabler of the very thing hurting him?


Well that's bound to cause even more of a conflict....because now you're dis-validating all his feelings, thoughts and emotions. by pinning them on someone 'pampering' his ego which is probably not likely the case, some people do have reason to be bitter...not saying bitterness is good but to pretend like there is no reason anyone could possibly be bitter then go on and on about how your right for being positive and they're wrong for being bitter.....is bound just to make it worse. I mean based on that even I am starting to get the impression maybe you do care more about being right then the relationship at hand.


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24 Apr 2012, 8:47 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
Well judging from what I read...it seems like he was trying quite calmly to explain to you, that he felt you where kind of pushing your opinion which was getting to him so he wanted you to back off and leave it alone....but you kept pushing and pushing, so he tried to explain his perspective only to have you continue to say how you're right and he's wrong only making him more frusterated. Maybe he wanted to move on from the topic because he did not feel like arguing...and didn't want to say anything you would take offense to but you forced it out of him anyways and still got offended.


Maybe you are right and i don't see it.... after listening to someone complain for a year and a half that they are cursed and nothing ever works for them, I guess I have given up on this conversation with him,...... I am tired oif hearing F the world, and then cleaning up after his consequenses every time it back fires on him....



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24 Apr 2012, 8:48 am

mellisamouse wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Well judging from what I read...it seems like he was trying quite calmly to explain to you, that he felt you where kind of pushing your opinion which was getting to him so he wanted you to back off and leave it alone....but you kept pushing and pushing, so he tried to explain his perspective only to have you continue to say how you're right and he's wrong only making him more frusterated. Maybe he wanted to move on from the topic because he did not feel like arguing...and didn't want to say anything you would take offense to but you forced it out of him anyways and still got offended.


Maybe you are right and i don't see it.... after listening to someone complain for a year and a half that they are cursed and nothing ever works for them, I guess I have given up on this conversation with him,...... I am tired oif hearing F the world, and then cleaning up after his consequenses every time it back fires on him....


Well have you ever looked into why they are complaining about that? maybe he really feels like nothing ever works for him, in which case anyone would be frustrated if they felt like that.


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24 Apr 2012, 9:00 am

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mellisamouse wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:

Well have you ever looked into why they are complaining about that? maybe he really feels like nothing ever works for him, in which case anyone would be frustrated if they felt like that.


Yes, nothing every works for him,,, almost every single time I can see things working out for him, he self sabatoges by telling people to go f themselves, right when they are trying to hand him something on a silver platter.... and then he complains how everything works out for everyone but him........ he plays the victom role, attacks people who wanna help, and sabatoges .... the classic victom.

His pride and ego have cost me THOUSANDS of dollars and I am not paying for his fight against the world anymore...



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24 Apr 2012, 9:05 am

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3. Even if he really does think "F the world - I hate everyone" I don't think it is correct to assert that your viewpoint is right and his is wrong. Maybe yours is more likely to produce sucess and "F the world" is more likely to produce bitterness... but when he says "can't you just let me be me" you should learn to respect that. If you can't deal with his attitude, finding a new boyfriend would be a more logical step than trying to change him. People should be able to share viewpoints without arguing (and trust me I've dated plenty of people who think an opposing viewpoint = argument) but once again, if that's the way he sees things your conversation style may not be compatible. I like debates and I need someone who can handle that and not consider it a personal attack. You may need the same thing.

This really seems like a simple misunderstanding but I am also seeing some potential conversation style incompatability.


I would, and have respected it for a year and a half, and it has cost me thousands of dollars, many friends, and I am now completely isolated from the world because of it... I just want MY carefree happy go lucky life back, with out Rambo wrecking everything anymore and me picking up the peices and paying his way after he wrecks things.... his "FU's, have cost me nearly $20,000 now, while he sits back, not working, and playing video games.... can't clean up that mess any more..