What do I need to do to get a woman interested in me?

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jonathandoors
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03 Jan 2007, 10:39 pm

I've given up chess, D&D, computers, physics, philosophy, religion and other matters to be more NT. I know that most NT do not care about dinosaurs, and I feel I should not care about dinosaurs either.

I've not quite figured what I should do now going forward.



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03 Jan 2007, 11:08 pm

Are you sure it's worth giving up your interests for something that might or might not happen?



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03 Jan 2007, 11:13 pm

You've given up yourself in essence mate. You don't need to do that. Trust me, I'm sure that there are NTs out there who like what you like.



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03 Jan 2007, 11:22 pm

Uh, if you give up everything that makes you you, what do you have to offer anyone?


Look, NTs aren't all conformist boring pigs. Many of them like stuff like chess, D&D, dinosaurs, etc. Find someone who is into what you're into (trust me, they're out there, I myself played chess, magic the gathering, D&D and all of that throughout high school. There are girls who get way into it!)



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04 Jan 2007, 11:32 am

Get rich and/or famous. Which means focus on your obession that could get you
rich or famous and keep working at it. If you have ADHD killing your productivity get treatment for it.



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04 Jan 2007, 11:54 am

Wealth. Power. Fame. All of these would be good to have in order to attract women. The kind of women that like to also have wealth, power, and fame. They don't want you, they want what you have. Not exactly the best types to go for, unless you desire a mutually superficial relationship. You could get a good arm ornament in this way.

If that doesn't sound like what you want (and I hope it wouldn't be, but that's your call, not mine), then you should be yourself. Sure, smooth out the edges, so to speak, but don't change yourself or present yourself as something you aren't to try and attract people. They'll be more upset that you were fake than they would be if you were honest, albeit nonconventional or different or whatever. Besides, its quite possible that one would actually like your interests or traits, or both. That kind of person would be a much better find than someone who likes a fabricated individual that you take the guise of for the sake of "fitting in."



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04 Jan 2007, 12:18 pm

shadexiii wrote:
Wealth. Power. Fame. All of these would be good to have in order to attract women. The kind of women that like to also have wealth, power, and fame. They don't want you, they want what you have. Not exactly the best types to go for, unless you desire a mutually superficial relationship. You could get a good arm ornament in this way.

If that doesn't sound like what you want (and I hope it wouldn't be, but that's your call, not mine), then you should be yourself. Sure, smooth out the edges, so to speak, but don't change yourself or present yourself as something you aren't to try and attract people. They'll be more upset that you were fake than they would be if you were honest, albeit nonconventional or different or whatever. Besides, its quite possible that one would actually like your interests or traits, or both. That kind of person would be a much better find than someone who likes a fabricated individual that you take the guise of for the sake of "fitting in."


Well as it turns out perfectly nice women find highly productive males attractive so
its not as bad as you make it out to be. Its evolutionary in orgins a women makes a massive investment in having a baby and naturally wants to partner with a man that is going to be highly likely to provide for her and the baby.



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04 Jan 2007, 12:38 pm

I would love to be rich famous and powerful for those reasons. Not sure how to achieve it. I can't dance or sing.



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04 Jan 2007, 1:08 pm

Why would you want to give up on Dinosaurs, in order to find a mate? They make you who you are. I'm looking for a mate myself, and I'm not giving up on my Routemasters, because they make me who I am. I'll just have to find a man from London.



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04 Jan 2007, 1:08 pm

Did I say anything wrong, here?



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04 Jan 2007, 1:14 pm

jonathandoors wrote:
I would love to be rich famous and powerful for those reasons. Not sure how to achieve it. I can't dance or sing.


use your love of chess, D&D, computers, physics, philosophy and religion - write a book about one or all of the subjects , make weird music , come up with a crazy invention you can sell to NT's ...

I'd like rich , famous and powerful I'd hate - famous you have to associate with people who are famous because they are rich but talentless and as for powerful I'm an anarchist it wouldnt fit.

As someone mentioned NT's arent all conformist pigs a lot of them are but still some arent - dont give up your hobbies or what makes you YOU for the sake of some vacuous NT or hope to get one - you'll go crazy even if that mission succeeds ... I'm just keeping on being me and eventually I'll find someone else* that can deal with me long term.

Theres hope for everyone :)

*that really means it this time



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04 Jan 2007, 2:01 pm

Kid. I have news for you. as the others said about NTs. They are not all that bad. I dated an NT....and it worked. for about 7 months. mind you that we had practically next to nothing in common. well, we both liked good movies and whatnot, and bowling. I will tell you that watching Top Gun 3 times in a row is a good thing to do.

But I will say this, having to give up what you treasure so dearly as so you can meet people? ehehehe.......that will serve no end to anything, you need to be yourself, and at the same time make it so people realize that. we are unique. I am a borderline crossover NT/AS person. I had As and now it's more or less disappering. College does that to a person it makes you...........crazy.



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04 Jan 2007, 2:08 pm

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Kid. I have news for you. as the others said about NTs. They are not all that bad. I dated an NT....and it worked. for about 7 months. mind you that we had practically next to nothing in common. well, we both liked good movies and whatnot, and bowling. I will tell you that watching Top Gun 3 times in a row is a good thing to do.

But I will say this, having to give up what you treasure so dearly as so you can meet people? ehehehe.......that will serve no end to anything, you need to be yourself, and at the same time make it so people realize that. we are unique. I am a borderline crossover NT/AS person. I had As and now it's more or less disappering. College does that to a person it makes you...........crazy.


College made me crazy. :P



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04 Jan 2007, 3:05 pm

TheMachine1 wrote:
Well as it turns out perfectly nice women find highly productive males attractive so
its not as bad as you make it out to be. Its evolutionary in orgins a women makes a massive investment in having a baby and naturally wants to partner with a man that is going to be highly likely to provide for her and the baby.


Yeah, this is true, I didn't really address that. Was attempting to emphasize the importance of not trying to be someone else in these matters, though that bit is important.

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I'd like rich , famous and powerful I'd hate - famous you have to associate with people who are famous because they are rich but talentless and as for powerful I'm an anarchist it wouldnt fit.

I'm with you on that. I don't like huge amounts of attention from people I don't know anyways, so no desire for fame. Power, eh, I've got problems with authority, and I wouldn't want to abuse whatever power I would hypothetically have. Money, everybody could use more of that.



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04 Jan 2007, 5:55 pm

jonathandoors wrote:
I've given up chess, D&D, computers, physics, philosophy, religion and other matters to be more NT. I know that most NT do not care about dinosaurs, and I feel I should not care about dinosaurs either.

I've not quite figured what I should do now going forward.


Seems like you're going backwards.

It's better to be hated for what you are than loved for what you're not, which is obviously what you're trying to do. Nothing will last for you if you continue.



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04 Jan 2007, 8:28 pm

Thank you C.R.

Aye. better to be hated for the fact that you're a republican in a democratic household, then to go around not liking what you are. okay, that sounded stupid.

But truth of the matter, is that you are sliding back along a path that takes you away from what you are. You don't want that. You want to be what you are, it makes the woman thath you end up dating like you because you are what you are, not because you aren't.