jerry00 wrote:
Its a catch 22. Nobody wants to make a friend who doesn't already have lots of friends.
You seem like an intelligent, thoughtful, well-reasoned person,
I've often felt stuck socially, and there have been things like this in my life that were hard to imagine I'd ever see change.
Guess what? They are changing substantially, as we speak. And they will for you too.
It seems like a catch-22, and you're largely right, that's the current situation. But it's still possible to do something about that. Using just the principle that even the tiniest amount of progress is still progress, and that progress builds, you can kind of "jimmy" or wiggle your way into more of a social life, little by little.
So it may not be natural to start making friends or ask for a relationship right from the beginning, but you're on your way there, and you can have those things in your life and you deserve to.
In the absence of friends then, just keep talking to people, a little bit here and there, and then more. You don't have to ask anyone to define the relationship, just get a sense for what makes people feel good and how to talk with ease, subtlety and warmth. Start with what you're comfortable with and expand on it a little at a time. In time, you won't have to ask for a friendship or even a relationship I think, you'll just have arrived there; you and the others will just know that's what you have between you.
Never say never, because it's not true, and everything takes time, practice and effort. But it's easier than you think, and doesn't have to be all or nothing. We just have to make the same journey that everybody else did, so just take it one step at a time and enjoy getting there.
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With an AQ of ~32-36 and much self-reflection, I now believe myself to be some sort of Aspie-NT hybrid, with most of the abilities of either an Aspie or an NT.