how about telling the truth to our "target" ?

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07 Jan 2007, 3:05 am

Have someone ever tried this approach ?

I noticed that im not blocked while talking to anybody anymore, i mean i can have a normal discussion with anybody after months of training where i tend to use my incredible knowledge in various areas, and place many puns and humour. Ok, but when I start to feel something about a girl, i mean when im like attracted and stuff, then im blocked, and can't watch her anymore in the eyes, nor speak to her naturally.
Maybe you feel the same.

So, I reflected:

what do you think if we go on a girl we like and say en résumé something like"hey baby, you see, i am pretty funny, and im very smart. I find you very cute and stuff, but before we go any further, i prefer tell you this: i do SUCK in social relations, especially with girls. But, hey, i feel really good physically and in my mind too, and i tend to learn with times how to behave with my peers ?" bla bla bla etc etc "for the moment, im very impressed by you, that's why im acting funny. But believe me, i do like how you look/what you do/the conversations we have. So i ask you to trust me, i may look really odd and weird, but i swear i am someone really cool, and i'd like to show you this by dating with you"
well, not exactly like that, but you get it, i guess...

instead of trying to hide something that can't be hidden, you have to play with it. Leave the bad parts of AS, and use the good parts: usually culture, excentricity, creativity, etc...

I follow the logical path i've taken: what you need to get chicks besides good looking and stuff is self-confidence. Self-confidence is when you know are someone cool/bright/smart/etc, when you know what are your qualities and defaults. If you are in a "im a looser, ill never get chicks" mood, well INDEED you'll NEVER get chicks. You musn't be whining and weeping, you must be smiling and confident, etc etc...

so, how to tell a girl that you like her very much, while you are afflicted by a rare form of high level autism ?

(english is not my native language, you would have noticed i hope :) )



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07 Jan 2007, 4:55 pm

have you tested this? you can only learn from trial and error. If you have bad results, don't take it personally, it's just an experimentation.


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07 Jan 2007, 6:41 pm

Depends on the person really, you can go up to people and say something really dirty with confidence, yes you will be slapped about 50 times, but you will finally get to someone who views that " courtship " as a want..

I never understud these questions, like how many partners have you had in the past? or 1 night stand'?s, how much sex they had?....

Use 3 diffferent stratergies on the type of Female & they want's in " Courtship "

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Some want's more commitment before sexual intermit relations..

Someone does not see sexual intermit relations as a sign of " Love " and is part of " Courtship "

And one's who want nothing till they married...
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Know this is going to sound stupid but " Most people don't like " Very Clingy " people, got to learn to restrain that your madly in love with them, as the other person might not feel that strongly, and have the negative view of a person that will be a nightmare, as in the other extreme of someone who sees them as just a peace of meat...

" I know I am missing the Information of "Courtship" and the role of the male to female bonding of going from a stranger, to having a coffee together, to maybe a date...

Look up " Human Courtship "

It's the second unique thing about humans that makes their reproductive life unusual: humans can think. Thus, the criteria for desire and selection are greatly complicated. People apply not only physical, but societal, cultural and economic criter ia to desire and selection.

Hope you can read this...



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08 Jan 2007, 11:39 am

Estaog wrote:
Have someone ever tried this approach ?

I noticed that im not blocked while talking to anybody anymore, i mean i can have a normal discussion with anybody after months of training where i tend to use my incredible knowledge in various areas, and place many puns and humour. Ok, but when I start to feel something about a girl, i mean when im like attracted and stuff, then im blocked, and can't watch her anymore in the eyes, nor speak to her naturally.
Maybe you feel the same.

Sadly, I do :( It's a curse! While others feel just delight when their "target" looks them in their eyes, I feel ecstacy - and am consequently "blocked".

Estaog wrote:
So, I reflected:

what do you think if we go on a girl we like and say en résumé something like"hey baby, you see, i am pretty funny, and im very smart. I find you very cute and stuff, but before we go any further, i prefer tell you this: i do SUCK in social relations, especially with girls. But, hey, i feel really good physically and in my mind too, and i tend to learn with times how to behave with my peers ?" bla bla bla etc etc "for the moment, im very impressed by you, that's why im acting funny. But believe me, i do like how you look/what you do/the conversations we have. So i ask you to trust me, i may look really odd and weird, but i swear i am someone really cool, and i'd like to show you this by dating with you"
well, not exactly like that, but you get it, i guess...

instead of trying to hide something that can't be hidden, you have to play with it. Leave the bad parts of AS, and use the good parts: usually culture, excentricity, creativity, etc...

That might be taken into consideration, of course, as a puely academic question at least for me. But I have made similar experiments with acquaintances and revealed part of my self, which you have described so accurately ;) and they all without exception turned away from me. I believe that people don't want to hear anything like that.

Estaog wrote:
I follow the logical path i've taken: what you need to get chicks besides good looking and stuff is self-confidence. Self-confidence is when you know are someone cool/bright/smart/etc, when you know what are your qualities and defaults. If you are in a "im a looser, ill never get chicks" mood, well INDEED you'll NEVER get chicks.

I hope you're not right with your last assertion lol

Estaog wrote:
You musn't be whining and weeping, you must be smiling and confident, etc etc...

so, how to tell a girl that you like her very much, while you are afflicted by a rare form of high level autism ?

(english is not my native language, you would have noticed i hope :) )

isn't my native language neither lol



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08 Jan 2007, 1:13 pm

Don't say, "Hey Baby". You'll sound like a certain cartoon character from MTV*.












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08 Jan 2007, 3:25 pm

just act natural.



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09 Jan 2007, 7:45 pm

tried it, doesn't work. Out of literally hundreds of girls, it didn't work. They'll just use it as bait and play you for what your worth (not very much).



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10 Jan 2007, 1:44 am

I'm in the early days of a new relationship with this girl I just met on New Year's Eve..... so far everything is working out pretty well.... and Ive tried to be as open and honest about everything right from the start, especially the whole asperger's thing. So far it seems to be working out..... I think she does believe me that some of the things I say and do sometimes are not exactly what I would have said or done if I had a chance to think twice about, and it would seem that its some of my aspie traits that attracted her to me in the first place. If you guys want I'll keep you posted on how everything works out.

I am really am trying hard this time, making sure I don't make my usual mistakes etc. Normally my relationships, or potential relationships only last 5 or 6 days, but its now the 10th and this girl is more than still talking to me.



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10 Jan 2007, 1:29 pm

I concur with the fellow that said they'll play you for all you're worth, which isn't much! He's right, I went after a girl rather kindly, not forcing my interest on her but merely expressing it, after all the effort I put into getting to know her it was 80% me and 20% her, not very good percentages for a real relationship :-(



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20 Jan 2007, 5:29 am

matt_a wrote:
I'm in the early days of a new relationship with this girl I just met on New Year's Eve..... so far everything is working out pretty well.... and Ive tried to be as open and honest about everything right from the start, especially the whole asperger's thing. So far it seems to be working out..... I think she does believe me that some of the things I say and do sometimes are not exactly what I would have said or done if I had a chance to think twice about, and it would seem that its some of my aspie traits that attracted her to me in the first place. If you guys want I'll keep you posted on how everything works out.

I am really am trying hard this time, making sure I don't make my usual mistakes etc. Normally my relationships, or potential relationships only last 5 or 6 days, but its now the 10th and this girl is more than still talking to me.


How old are you ?

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I concur with the fellow that said they'll play you for all you're worth, which isn't much! He's right, I went after a girl rather kindly, not forcing my interest on her but merely expressing it, after all the effort I put into getting to know her it was 80% me and 20% her, not very good percentages for a real relationship :-(


indeed. But it is also a way to guess if the person in front of you is someone you can trust, and who really likes you.