Objectifying the ideal man....

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Having read some of the opinions concerning the types of men from which women would run the fastest: who would most personify the ideal man?

I'm thinking maybe Bill Clinton, if he bragged about himself less, turned down women (other than Hillary) with sexual desires, and did housework.

Maybe President Obama comes closer?

A lot of people seem to think the ideal man is a borderline rapist with narcissistic tendencies which kind of bums me out.

There is no such thing as an ideal man the same way there is no ideal woman. People are not Lego.

Bill Clinton??! !??! !??

Um no.

There are a lot of things that are ideal for me, but I don't think anyone could be ideal in every aspect. I never really thought much about what my ideal was, only if I feel happy with the person I am with and if they treat me well and have good morals.

I guess someone who is a good person is my ideal, that plus having a connection. An appreciation of art is also a plus.

An individual might have an 'ideal man', but their idea of what that is is unlikely to correspond with that of anyone they know.

There are a few movie stars whose personas probably come close to a generalised perception of being an 'ideal man', but they're just acting a part.

And if you can identify such an 'ideal man', it is usually through the media and means they're unobtainable anyway.

Take men as you find them -- they may not come up to your ideal, but they might come close, and anyway, ideals can always be adjusted.

PS: "Bill Clinton" -- WTF?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcJI87u3DoQ

I'll take fictional characters. Just give us an ideal towards which to aspire. Or, some idea of what your ideal man would be.

How about Sheldon Cooper?




He is very clean, but he does seem to have a tendency to brag.

I'll take historic figures, too. Thomas Jefferson? The Emperor Claudius? King Henry VIII? Abraham Lincoln?

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The very act of idealization is an act of objectification.

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I don't want to aspire to be someone else or act like someone else especially if they're a fictional character just to please women.

I aspire to be a better me. There's only one me in the world and if I have to be more like a fictional character (or anyone else for that matter) for women to accept me then I'll happily die alone.


Honestly, it would be insulting to me to change how I act and my personality to fit someone elses'. It'd be like some hot lady walking up to me and saying, "I wish you'd aspire to be like your friend over there. He's got it going on "

And my response would be, "Well I'm not my friend, lady, and if you don't like that you can escort yourself out!"

I want her to like me for me! (Cue "Hey Leonard - She Likes Me for Me by Blessed Union of Souls" song!)

Yes, of course it is.

Objectification = the act of representing an abstraction as a physical thing

idealization = a portrayal of something as ideal

By saying that someone is ideal, one is saying that the person is the physical representation of an abstraction.

So what?

Craig Ferguson. He's kinda weird, but funny. I love the way he just rambles on about nonsense. I loved his interview with Krysten Ritter the other day where he told her he likes crazy women.
I need a man that likes a little bit of crazy. But I definitely objectify him. Watching from afar thinking "that's the quirky kind of man I want."
Or maybe it's just the Scottish accent... Maybe I should find me a Stottish man.

You sure about that?

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